What in The World Is Going on With Andy Sonnanstine's Breaking Pitches?
Remember the quotes from Andy Sonnanstine about a new change-up he worked on during the spring? Generally, you hear pitchers talking about a new grip, arm slot, or even an entirely new pitch and nothing ever really comes of it. This is their way of acting busy. Well, Sonnanstine's change-up has actually morphed from last previous seasons, but I'm not sure if it's for the best.
The velocity on the pitch is a tick higher than previous incarnations. We're talking about an extra mile per hour, nothing overly substantial. The pitch is moving less horizontally than it did last season though. In 2007 the pitch broke about six inches in to right-handed batters, in 2008 that number increased to seven inches, now he's getting less than five inches of inward break. Vertically, the pitch has reverted to its 2007 roots, just around four inches "up", compared to nearly 7 inches in 2008.
Compared to Rays contemporaries Joe Nelson and James Shields, we can fill in the dots on how ‘good' his change-up moves.
| Pitcher | H | V |
| Nelson | -8.3 | 4.7 |
| Shields | -8.8 | 3.8 |
| Sonny | -4.6 | 4.1 |
Sonny's change is right there vertically, but lacks the horizontal oomph that makes Nelson and Shields' change-ups so good. You could also question whether Sonnanstine has enough separation between his fastball/cutter and change-up. Shields sits around 90 with the heater and 82 with his change while Nelson sits 88 with his fastball and 79 with his change. That's about 8-9 miles per hour of separation each. With Sonnanstine, it's more like 3-4 nowadays.
For someone without inherent control issues, getting less movement seems like a bad thing.
Interestingly, Sonny's curveball has gained way more movement than his change-up has lost. Last year it sat at 7.9 inches horizontally (which is to say away form righties) and -2.2 vertically (a drop), this year it's at 10.1 and -6.2. That's more horizontal movement than Josh Beckett's curve, and an equal amount of vertical drop. Of course, Beckett has a mid-90s heater setting his pitch up so the two situations aren't entirely comparable.
So here we have Sonnanstine, the guy about 32 walks away from last year's total in 100 less innings, and we have evidence that his change-up is breaking less and his curve is breaking more. Still, Sonnanstine's pitches are finding the zone at a 59% rate - higher than last year - and he's getting 61% first-pitch strikes - down from last year. Perhaps the most telling part is that his O-Swing% is down to 12%, about half of his career total.
Piecing this together, there's a few possible explanations.
Sonnanstine has no idea his curve is breaking more and change is breaking less, and he's trying to throw them like he did previously.
The ‘break' is coming sooner as the ball is pitched, giving hitters a better look, and allowing them to lay off certain pitches.
It's all a small sample size mirage.
Let's see if this continues throughout his next few starts.
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Hmm...this is definitely worrisome
Come on Sonny…I need you big this year. I drafted you in every one of my fantasy leagues as a sleeper…
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige
by Steve Slowinski on Apr 21, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
Banned for referencing fantasy team in non-fantasy team post.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Touché
I do have an unfortunate love affair with Sonny, though.
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige
by Steve Slowinski on Apr 21, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Sharing is caring, R.J.
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Apr 21, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a difference between these two pitches with Sonny?
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
2010 Rotation
Garza, Price, Shields, Kazmir, Davis
The pen would be stacked with multiple inning types if things break well.
Could mean carrying only 11 arms and 14 bats.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
2011 Rotation
Pavano, Colon, Ponson, Hampton, Wang
Welcome back Devil Rays! We missed you so much!
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Oh and D-Train as our closer
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Not entirely related.
But Davis has like a 13% swinging strike rate at Durham. That’s pretty impressive.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that today when checking the MILB guys on statcorner.
Pretty nice! Too bad they don’t have stats for Hellboy in that regard.
Yeah, I know.
Aneury did have a decent start today. Scoreless through the first five innings.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and early returns suggest Hellickson has not hit a wall in Double-A.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Jennings, Jaso, and Hughes have been our best upper level hitters thus far.
Jennings is just killing it. He’s ill.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
ill?
Not again. It’s always injuries with him.
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Apr 21, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, fess up. Which one of you is this:
You can’t win 90+ in the MLB and win two playoff series with luck, although it is nice to have her on your side. The Rays won last year with a lot of grit and spirit. I hope it returns.
Posted by: brianj | April 19, 2009 at 07:15 PM
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
Making fun of Heater comments?
Not funny or cool. They’re people, just like you!
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, I saw OrlandoRays in this thread, but which one of you uses this nickname:
might as well just show up around 10pm for the concert unless the actual onfield product improves
Posted by: Dr. Peter Ripterhymen | April 19, 2009 at 03:51 PM
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
wish it was me.
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Apr 21, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
haha!
This almost makes me want to go back to reading posts on the Heater. Almost.
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Apr 21, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
ARE YOU SHITTING ME?!?!?!?!?
I guess we’re going to have to cancel our trip out to Knology HQ.
Now what am I going to do with all this duct tape and gasoline?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

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