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Not As Good News

We're now 6-10, 5.5 back of Toronto - a nice story and a better team than most know, but odds are they aren't ahead when the season ends - and about 3.5 back of both Boston and New York.  That's the more important race as far as our playoff hopes are concerned. The good news is that the Rays are .500 against those two, the bad news is that the Rays are .300 versus everyone else. That's going to change - it has to - and when it does the gap should shrink a bit.

Most projection systems had the Yankees and Sox a handful of games better. As we know, those attempt to measure true talent. Wang's struggles and Rodriguez' injury weren't covered in those projections, so knock a win or two off, and the Rays are still a few back. The problem is the team has done nothing to make up or maintain that distance - assuming the teams are still relatively close to the projected true talent level, and they should be.

Assume we play like a 90-win team the rest of the way; we're looking at about 87 wins. That's probably not enough for the playoffs. Playing like a 95-win team leaves us closer to 92. That might do it, might not. Hard to say. With the American League being ridiculously good this season (so good that we may not see a team win less than 70 games) the best team in the AL could only win 95 games.

It's not time to panic yet, and don't look too far ahead, but after three in Oakland and Minnesota, the Rays have four versus Boston and two against Baltimore at home. Then they visit New York for two, Boston for three, and Baltimore for another two. We're looking towards a few weeks that should tell us a lot about our playoff hopes entering the middle of May.

Also, per Baseball Prospectus, we have about a 40% shot at the playoffs, despite the awful start. That's not as bad as I figured. Now, let's ruin those numbers with some wins, please.

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And imagine if Zobzilla hadn'd come from nowhere to be

well, Zorila. I like Zobzilla better myself, but whatevs.

I could be wrong though

by staplemaniac on Apr 24, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Ben Hurt with the catch attempt.

All this tells me if the Rays can play a little over 500 ball they can have softer non-divisional schedule afterward. The Rays are too good play sub-par for the remainder of the season. There pitchers are very good. We will have Bradford back around June Price will step up in the rotation.

In the name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Apr 24, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Bradford but...

his declining peripherals are hard to ignore.

K/9 Rates
-—————-
2006 6.5
2007 4.0
2008 2.6

GB% remains intact. BB/9 remains low. He’s a useful member of the bullpen, but his best days may be long gone.

by RayFanNY on Apr 24, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

RJ

If you are basing you statement, “That’s going to change – it has to”, on regressing back to the mean, I’m pretty sure it [scoring or winning] doesn’t have to do anything.

It’s a matter of high probability, but it’s not something that actually has to happen. It’s entirely possible that the Rays continue to score far away from the mean, just from a statistics standpoint, very unlikely.

by plasticman on Apr 24, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Extremely unlikely.

If the Rays continue playing .300 ball versus everyone else it would be perhaps the most ridiculous outlier in the history of baseball.

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 24, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff as always

I’m projecting a 3rd place finish in a close race with Toronto, who will probably fall off in the second half with all of their pitching injuries and the loss of Burnett. Lind and Snider can mash though.

As you said, we’ve done little to make up any ground in the projections. Either we play above our projections as we did in 2008, or we accept it is not likely a repeat season. I’d be happy with 87+ wins and 3rd place honestly.

There are some wild cards (no pun intended) which could propel us back to the playoffs:

1 – David Price arrives and becomes more dominant than could have been anticipated right out of the gate.

2 – Matt Garza puts it all together and becomes an elite front line starter in the same breath as Sabbathia, Beckett, Santana, etc.

3 – Matt Joyce tears up AAA and arrives by the all-star break as a big power threat with a better contact rate.

4 – We trade off a young pitcher or two and come away with a big bat for LF or RF. At the same time, Crawford is dealt for prospects.

Any of these are plausible, and I think at least 2 need to happen for us to have a shot at another AL East title.

Hang in there guys, stay positive. This is still a great young team with a big time future. It’s okay to take a step back after what we did in 2008.

by RayFanNY on Apr 24, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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