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Ben Zobrist's Late Inning Lightning Isn't Enough vs. Twins

The mighty Ben Zobrist is up to bat.

You can't help but chuckle a little bit about the whole thing. In less than a calendar year Ben Zobrist has gone from a borderline major league backup, and frequent flyer of the Durham shuttle to one of the three or four Rays players you want with the game on the line.

Once again, Zobrist rose off his throne aka the Rays bench and delivered a late inning blast that gave the Rays new hope in a game that was mostly uninspiring. Unlike the pinch-hit grand slam that put the team ahead, this pinch-hit shot off the bat of Zorilla would only tie game. The Rays were creative in losing this game thanks in part to a bases loaded hit by pitch and a walk off fielders choice that looked like a prayer answering double play.

Despite the loss, the folk hero's tale for Ben Zobrist continues. Taking one of the games best closers deep is no easy task. Taking him deep to tie the game in his ballpark as a pinch hitter is even harder, but Benzo would just tell you he's doing his job. After all this is the man who calls himself late inning lightning. Regardless to what theory you subscribe to on Zobrist's power, you can't deny the results. With his latest home run, Benzo now has 16 home runs in his last 238 at-bats. On a Rays team that struggles on an every other night basis, he continues to be one of the most consistent performers.

The lightning struck Joe Nathan last night; unfortunately the Rays were stuck in their same old offensive fog.

 

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I made this sad point last night

and it speaks volumes on Zo and the plight of the Rays

He has more HR than BJ, CC, Burrell, Navi,Aybar and Gabe(s) and Aki—COMBINED

WoW

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

There so much going wrong every night, but

at least we found new ways to lose last night. I can’t remember the last time I was excited in a ninth inning so that was nice.

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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it, i was for one brief second

I know this isn’t at all quantifying as a statement, but the old ‘everything that can go wrong-will’ theory is certainly in play with the Rays

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just keep saying ok this is the night we put it together and some nights we do

only to have a game like last night. Win the series tonight thats all we ask.

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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Make it happen every night

Upton
MVB
Longoria
Pena
Burrell
CC
Zorilla
Navi
Aki

by matthan on Apr 29, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

thrown = throne

But, jeez. We continue to beat ourselves.

BJ still can’t make contact with low 90s fastballs. Would’ve liked to have seen Burrell up in the 9th instead of Aybar.

PECOTA has us at 33% to make the playoffs, btw.

by PlayOnWords on Apr 29, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

How late did B.J. look all night?

Timing is still off. Doesn’t even matter what velocity.

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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was evident how dangerous he can be on the bases.

If he would ever just get a piece…his cuts are mighty, but I think he’s pulling his head.

Is there a way the braintrust can do a side-by-side of his stroke now versus the playoffs?

Is there a way we can ship BJ off to MKANX Camp?

by PlayOnWords on Apr 29, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

So why is he still leading off?

I could see if Maddon didn’t have anyone to replace him, but Bartlett is red hot

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

But that's just not happening

and we’ve seen nothing close to it even beginning to happen

I’m willing to bet he’s moved soon if he doesn’t produce

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

I think Maddon is pretty reluctant to blow up his model. At least right now.

See: usage of Troy Percival.

by PlayOnWords on Apr 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

For all the shit he gets (Percy) and i'm not a huge fan

we have bigger problems in the pen

Balfour, Wheeler and Howell are not even close to where they were last season

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not at all

those guys were automatic last year

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Howell has

More K’s per nine, less BB/9, no home runs allowed so far and a BABIP that is .60 higher than his career average which means he’s been even better than his ERA suggests. He is by far the best pitcher we have on the staff right now including starters. Even last night, he got the double play ball we needed, but it just didn’t work. We have holes, but J.P. Howell is most definitely not one.

As for Wheeler, it must have been written 1,000 times on this site that he was due for a regression. Wheeler isn’t a surprise at all.

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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Howell has a high H/IP ratio

and putting the lead man on in the 9th never a good idea

Wheeler, we all muself included saw a regression, not an implosion

Balfour has been simply awful since the ALCS

Percy did his job last night, again i’m not a fan of his

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

misleading

Howell’s given up 3 singles to the outfield, 3 doubles and 3 infield hits. 6 outfield hits in 9 innings with no HR. Not too shabby.

Ooh la la, FreeZorilla has happened upon FangGraphs play log. Me Likey!

by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Free Zo

Its nothing personal vs the Gabes for me. Gross was huge for us last year and is an ok bat at the plate in a platoon. Kapler has done a much better job after a choppy start. However this team needs a hot bat in the lineup now. If Zo, cools off you can always fall back on the steady (well at least in Gross’s case) unspectacular GOTB. I have high hopes for Zo’s corner outfield development if given the opportunity. At this point opposing managers are giddy when his name is not on the lineup card.

by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

K rate

is also absurdly high. His BB/K ratio will be much better by the end of the season.

by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

By whomever is collecting the stats.

There a few different companies doing it, but it’s a judgment call. Home runs are almost always fly balls, though they’re the hardest hit balls most of the time. And there are line drives that aren’t hit hard. I’m not suggesting that this data doesn’t tell us anything, it tells us a lot, but it’s got a long way to go.

Tools Whore

by Tyler on Apr 29, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is true

Quite a few home runs are “line drive” but nonetheless get lumped in the fly ball category.

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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a stat...

that is like WAR but doesn’t “punish” players for not playing as many innings? Like one that takes

e.g. can we look at Zobrist’s production as if he had the same number of ABs as a starting RF (and same number of defensive innings)?

Yeah, I’m not explaining this well. I’m sure there is something for this, though.

by mittens on Apr 29, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Duemig

Just accused BenZo of using roids. Paraphrased below:

“I’m starting to like this guy. How do you go to the minors and come back a monster? I’ve talked with professional athletes and they say you can get away with it. I’m not going to say it”

by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

That was followed by a rant on.....

Maddon “foolishly” sticking with Howell rather than going with Nelson vs Morneau. He has a point, Aki probably could have better handled a Nelson double play induced ball. This guy reads just enough about baseball to be extremely foolish.

by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was most definitely Duemig's fool ....

on the radio on 4/17 after he started Zo on 4/16. That very night, pinch-hit grandslam. Must be roids

My bad on the reply fail

by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate these radio guys. I'm happy I don't listen to them, but every time I read a Duemig quote

I want to stab him in the throat. The worst part is that his bosses look at the ratings and probably think,“Well, he’s doing something right!” when the truth is people will listen to the radio basically no matter what.

Same with Colin Cowherd.

by Suttree on Apr 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fucking for real

Or a podcast. Give me something instead of Duemig and Benardzik, who’s only Rays analysis is that we don’t have that shut-down closer like his beloved Mets.

The Tampa radio media is the absolute pits.

by PlayOnWords on Apr 29, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he has ratings

then he is doing something right. That’s the name of the game and how they get Ad dollars.

Why people still listen to him is another story.

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Apr 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He stirs the pot by saying outlandish things and gets people...

to call him, talk about him and mention him on websites. Sponsors want audience so he keeps his job.

by Doyouseeit? on Apr 29, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was most definitely Duemig's fool ....

on the radio on 4/17 after he started Zo on 4/16. That very night, pinch-hit grandslam. Must be roids.

by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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