Ben Zobrist's Late Inning Lightning Isn't Enough vs. Twins
The mighty Ben Zobrist is up to bat.
You can't help but chuckle a little bit about the whole thing. In less than a calendar year Ben Zobrist has gone from a borderline major league backup, and frequent flyer of the Durham shuttle to one of the three or four Rays players you want with the game on the line.
Once again, Zobrist rose off his throne aka the Rays bench and delivered a late inning blast that gave the Rays new hope in a game that was mostly uninspiring. Unlike the pinch-hit grand slam that put the team ahead, this pinch-hit shot off the bat of Zorilla would only tie game. The Rays were creative in losing this game thanks in part to a bases loaded hit by pitch and a walk off fielders choice that looked like a prayer answering double play.
Despite the loss, the folk hero's tale for Ben Zobrist continues. Taking one of the games best closers deep is no easy task. Taking him deep to tie the game in his ballpark as a pinch hitter is even harder, but Benzo would just tell you he's doing his job. After all this is the man who calls himself late inning lightning. Regardless to what theory you subscribe to on Zobrist's power, you can't deny the results. With his latest home run, Benzo now has 16 home runs in his last 238 at-bats. On a Rays team that struggles on an every other night basis, he continues to be one of the most consistent performers.
The lightning struck Joe Nathan last night; unfortunately the Rays were stuck in their same old offensive fog.
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I made this sad point last night
and it speaks volumes on Zo and the plight of the Rays
He has more HR than BJ, CC, Burrell, Navi,Aybar and Gabe(s) and Aki—COMBINED
WoW
There so much going wrong every night, but
at least we found new ways to lose last night. I can’t remember the last time I was excited in a ninth inning so that was nice.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate to say it, i was for one brief second
I know this isn’t at all quantifying as a statement, but the old ‘everything that can go wrong-will’ theory is certainly in play with the Rays
I just keep saying ok this is the night we put it together and some nights we do
only to have a game like last night. Win the series tonight thats all we ask.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Make it happen every night
Upton
MVB
Longoria
Pena
Burrell
CC
Zorilla
Navi
Aki
thrown = throne
But, jeez. We continue to beat ourselves.
BJ still can’t make contact with low 90s fastballs. Would’ve liked to have seen Burrell up in the 9th instead of Aybar.
PECOTA has us at 33% to make the playoffs, btw.
How late did B.J. look all night?
Timing is still off. Doesn’t even matter what velocity.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It was evident how dangerous he can be on the bases.
If he would ever just get a piece…his cuts are mighty, but I think he’s pulling his head.
Is there a way the braintrust can do a side-by-side of his stroke now versus the playoffs?
Is there a way we can ship BJ off to MKANX Camp?
by PlayOnWords on Apr 29, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
So why is he still leading off?
I could see if Maddon didn’t have anyone to replace him, but Bartlett is red hot
Because he still has the ability to get on base four times a night without swinging a bat
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
But that's just not happening
and we’ve seen nothing close to it even beginning to happen
I’m willing to bet he’s moved soon if he doesn’t produce
Nah
I think Maddon is pretty reluctant to blow up his model. At least right now.
See: usage of Troy Percival.
by PlayOnWords on Apr 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
For all the shit he gets (Percy) and i'm not a huge fan
we have bigger problems in the pen
Balfour, Wheeler and Howell are not even close to where they were last season
This is a joke right?
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The Howell part, I mean
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Not at all
those guys were automatic last year
Howell has
More K’s per nine, less BB/9, no home runs allowed so far and a BABIP that is .60 higher than his career average which means he’s been even better than his ERA suggests. He is by far the best pitcher we have on the staff right now including starters. Even last night, he got the double play ball we needed, but it just didn’t work. We have holes, but J.P. Howell is most definitely not one.
As for Wheeler, it must have been written 1,000 times on this site that he was due for a regression. Wheeler isn’t a surprise at all.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Howell has a high H/IP ratio
and putting the lead man on in the 9th never a good idea
Wheeler, we all muself included saw a regression, not an implosion
Balfour has been simply awful since the ALCS
Percy did his job last night, again i’m not a fan of his
You seem like the kind of guy who picks all the negatives
and ignores all the positives, such as taking one bad outing from Howell and dismissing the rest of his stats.
I llok at one thing VERY closely
the STANDINGS
misleading
Howell’s given up 3 singles to the outfield, 3 doubles and 3 infield hits. 6 outfield hits in 9 innings with no HR. Not too shabby.
Ooh la la, FreeZorilla has happened upon FangGraphs play log. Me Likey!
by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't know they had that
The play-by-play WPA is very interesting
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Apr 29, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, Howell is ridiculously good right now.
If Howell’s performance thus far was our biggest concern, we would be undefeated.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It's still 13 games. I know I wrote about BJ yesterday needing to come around
but 10 walks in 13 games is still good.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Tommy, don't take this wrong, but i'll state
it again, ‘you can’t win a division in APR, but you can lose one’. We’re approaching that point
If we’re 9-17 Sunday night, the road back will be very long
Because being "red hot" holds absolutely zero predictive value.
And switching the lineup to try and ride a heat wave is going to be more hassle than productive.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
So if BJ is hitting 200 with a 280 OBP in June
and the team is still struggling, you leave him alone?
Free Zo
Its nothing personal vs the Gabes for me. Gross was huge for us last year and is an ok bat at the plate in a platoon. Kapler has done a much better job after a choppy start. However this team needs a hot bat in the lineup now. If Zo, cools off you can always fall back on the steady (well at least in Gross’s case) unspectacular GOTB. I have high hopes for Zo’s corner outfield development if given the opportunity. At this point opposing managers are giddy when his name is not on the lineup card.
Btw Benzo's LD% is down to 3.6% that is absurdly low considering most hitters are around 20%
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K rate
is also absurdly high. His BB/K ratio will be much better by the end of the season.
by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Its tough cause we're dealing with small sample sizes and Zobrist not playing everyday give us even less of a SSS
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
So lets build that sample size and see right? Set him free.
by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Any site recs to look at SOs looking for swinging?
by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
statcorner.com I believe
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Upton has missed on 27% of the pitches he swung at. Pena is at 28%, Longoria around 25%
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Patient Hitter Comparison kL% vs uBB%
Upton 13.6% vs 18.6%
Zo 11.1% vs 11.1%
Gross 11.1% vs 19.4%
Aki 10.8% vs 9.5%
Burrell 4.1% vs 17.8%
by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Burrell is really good at this pitch selection thing
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
He's also good at bitch selection!
See what I did there?
by Suttree on Apr 29, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Whats up with the stiff neck?
This DH thing takes its toll on a body.
by FreeZorilla on Apr 29, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Pat puts himself in some weird positions
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why classification of LD and FB is still an issue and will be until we have Hit f/x.
He’s killing the ball when he hits it.
Tools Whore
By whomever is collecting the stats.
There a few different companies doing it, but it’s a judgment call. Home runs are almost always fly balls, though they’re the hardest hit balls most of the time. And there are line drives that aren’t hit hard. I’m not suggesting that this data doesn’t tell us anything, it tells us a lot, but it’s got a long way to go.
Tools Whore
This is true
Quite a few home runs are “line drive” but nonetheless get lumped in the fly ball category.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 29, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Is there a stat...
that is like WAR but doesn’t “punish” players for not playing as many innings? Like one that takes
e.g. can we look at Zobrist’s production as if he had the same number of ABs as a starting RF (and same number of defensive innings)?
Yeah, I’m not explaining this well. I’m sure there is something for this, though.
Duemig
Just accused BenZo of using roids. Paraphrased below:
“I’m starting to like this guy. How do you go to the minors and come back a monster? I’ve talked with professional athletes and they say you can get away with it. I’m not going to say it”
That was followed by a rant on.....
Maddon “foolishly” sticking with Howell rather than going with Nelson vs Morneau. He has a point, Aki probably could have better handled a Nelson double play induced ball. This guy reads just enough about baseball to be extremely foolish.
Yet, if Maddon went to Nelson and Morneau singles, then Maddon is a fool.
Steve Duemig loves him some results based analysis.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He was most definitely Duemig's fool ....
on the radio on 4/17 after he started Zo on 4/16. That very night, pinch-hit grandslam. Must be roids
My bad on the reply fail
I hate these radio guys. I'm happy I don't listen to them, but every time I read a Duemig quote
I want to stab him in the throat. The worst part is that his bosses look at the ratings and probably think,“Well, he’s doing something right!” when the truth is people will listen to the radio basically no matter what.
Same with Colin Cowherd.
Fucking for real
Or a podcast. Give me something instead of Duemig and Benardzik, who’s only Rays analysis is that we don’t have that shut-down closer like his beloved Mets.
The Tampa radio media is the absolute pits.
If he has ratings
then he is doing something right. That’s the name of the game and how they get Ad dollars.
Why people still listen to him is another story.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Apr 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He stirs the pot by saying outlandish things and gets people...
to call him, talk about him and mention him on websites. Sponsors want audience so he keeps his job.
He was most definitely Duemig's fool ....
on the radio on 4/17 after he started Zo on 4/16. That very night, pinch-hit grandslam. Must be roids.

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