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4/29 Post-Game: Tampa Bay Rays @ Minnesota Twins

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via www.fangraphs.com

 

Player WPA
Burrell 0.065
Crawford 0.042
Gross 0.009
Cormier 0.007
Upton -0.014
Aybar -0.019
Bartlett -0.023
Longoria -0.027
Zobrist -0.027
Iwamura -0.04
Pena -0.041
Navarro -0.059
Kazmir -0.374

That seems completely unfair to Kazmir and way too fair to Navarro.

And moving on...

Star-divide

When I was in high school being a Rays fan was less about being cool and more about being rebellious. I should clarify; rebellious in the sense that it was unique, like a unibrow. One event that stands out in my mind comes when I was dating a girl named Katie. She wasn't the biggest of Rays fans, but more than most because she didn't like baseball one bit. We were an odd couple, to say the least, but she understood that I had needs she simply could not satisfy.

We dated for about a month before that faithful night. It was the weekend before homecoming and a friend of mine was holding a party. Katie and I agreed to meet up there because I wanted to see the end of the Rays and Yankees game before arriving. The game lasted longer than I had anticipated and when I arrived Katie was nowhere to be found, at least until I went upstairs where she was cornered by a guy.

His hands all over her, much to her dismay, as she attempted to wiggle away from him while telling him to leave her alone. I rushed over and pulled him off. He immediately looked down at my shirt which featured the Rays insignia (these were the days of green) and decided to comment "She has low standards if she's willing to date a Rays fan."

I could not believe this guy was brave as to insult something I cherished that much right in front of me. I figured he would not be so daring as to say it twice. I asked him what it was he said. He repeated. I flew off the handle and grabbed him by his popped collar, throwing him against a wall.

"If you ever and I do mean ever say something like that again I will put you through this wall. The Rays will be good before you know it."
At this point he had a bewildered look on his face. "What about her?" he asked.

"Same for her, she knows her place."

By now most of the party had gathered around to see a fight or something, but much to their disappointment nothing happened publicly. Katie dumped me, and my night ended in heartache.

The Rays lost.

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Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Apr 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Please don't start this up again.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Apr 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly what am i starting?

I’m a fan, a frustrated one, who sees the season possibly over Sunday night

Tell me something to be happy about concerning this team

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The season is never over in April

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Apr 29, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Sunday is May 3rd

and i know many here don’t abide by this, but you can’t win a division in APR, but you can lose one

Think about it, it makes sense

I’m not trying to be a drama queen, just a fan who had high hopes, and has been deflated

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell that to the yankees two years ago.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Apr 29, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that season well

they played like 660 ball, and still only got the WC

With no closer, even if all the parts register go, i don’t see that happening

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I mean, did you forget last year?

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

RJ, last year at this time

we were 10-13, with Kaz and Garza out, and Longo not here or just arriving

This year we’re perfectly healthy, with no players due back who can help

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not talking about the record.

I’m talking about the idea that the closer matters.

You can’t compare the records. The AL is far too improved to attempt and do that. This team can place itself back in the race with a hot streak, whether that happens or not is beyond our knowledge.

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok RJ, you sold me

I’m out of town till Sunday eve

Beat those fucking Sox

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to sell anything.

I’m concerned about the playoff chances too and yes this season has been a trainwreck.

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

is a lie

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look, i'm on your side

This team is my passion, but call a spade a spade, they’re playing like dogshit

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop this.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Apr 29, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah I'm good.

Just chill out dude. They could turn it around, they have the pieces. Or they could just continue to suck but it’s just a game.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that.

We are disagreeing with your idea of what the remainder of the season holds though.

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It may be decent

but if we’re out 8-9 games Sunday, it may be over

by Raymondo on Apr 29, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

...Really?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Apr 29, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you keep double posting?

"Yeah, I am not the old annoying guy next door. Heck, I don't even know who i am"

by 4QB on Apr 29, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That problem can turn both ways

There’s way too little consideration of the potential impact of injury on the Rays, and way too much expectation that every prospect will succeed.

That said, the season is far from over regardless on May 3.

On May 6, 2005, the Yankees were 11-19, 9 games out in the ALE. They finished with 95 wins and the division title – on a tiebreaker.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Apr 30, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

...Really?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Apr 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

way to fair to navarro

what did he have, 3 passed balls? also, at least a couple of those first inning runs should have been unearned. kaz got screwed by his defense tonight. the boys better buy him a big steak tonight.

by Devil Ray on Apr 30, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

That story is way too amazing

Definitely made my night after that sucky loss

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Apr 30, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Right now Navi is the worst starting player in MLB

And I wouldn’t say it is particularly close. Yes I understand he is a catcher which gives him a “boost” cause of position. But why? He is a horrible catcher right now.

He can’t catch the ball. He can’t hit. He can’t throw runners out. And he obviously isn’t handling the staff well.

The solution? I don’t know. I just know Navarro is really really bad.

by matthan on Apr 30, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Too late

he signed with the astros.

"Yeah, I am not the old annoying guy next door. Heck, I don't even know who i am"

by 4QB on Apr 30, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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