Colorado Rockies/Tampa Bay Rays Deal Could Center Around Aneury Rodriguez
There is growing momentum for a trade to transpire between Tampa Bay and the Rockies involving right-hander Jason Hammels. The Rays heavily scouted the Rockies this past week, keeping a close eye on Double-A starter Aneury Rodriguez.
First thing you notice about Rodriguez is his stature. He's a 6'3" and slender. He's also young and advanced for his age as a 21-year-old in Double-A. As for stuff an arsenal, here's what a Rocky Mountain News story said about him in 2006:
Rodriguez throws an 89-90 mph fastball and on a few occasions has touched 93 mph. His repertoire also includes a curveball and changeup. Linton said a priority with Rodriguez has been getting him to use his height to his advantage and deliver the ball on a good downhill angle.
I would expect that his velocity has clicked up a few ticks, especially given what John Sickels said:
Note: His fastball velocity is closer to 92-93 nowadays than the 89-90 mentioned above.
8) Aneury Rodriguez, RHP, Grade C+: What am I missing here? Why don’t other people like him? He’s young, has a live arm, and has pitched well.
In three seasons, Rodriguez has shown the ability to strike hitters out while avoiding walks and homeruns. FIPs of 3.15, 3.86, and 3.38. He seems like a quality pitcher, and one I wouldn't mind having in Montgomery. Rodriguez also fits the bill of what the Rays seem to accomplish with a trade. A) Clearing a logjam, B) replenishing a future talent wave.
More on Rodriguez
Last year, Rodriguez started 27 games and threw 156.1 innings for High-A Modesto of the hitter-friendly California League. He had a 3.74 ERA, allowed less than a hit an inning, and struck out 21.4% of the batters he faced.
Of all the pitchers who threw at least 90 innings in that league last season, only three had a higher strikeout percentage. The ability to strike batters out -- something Rodriguez has consistently done well throughout his minor league career -- is one of the best ways to gauge how legit a prospect is.
Best Case Outcome - No. 4 starter or possible set up man...his stuff could play up if moved to the bullpen
More Likely Outcome - moved to the bullpen and becomes a 4th or 5th reliever type
The knock on Rodriguez seems to be his lack of a change-up. James Shields and Xavier Hernandez have known to have a cure for that ailment. Even if he turns into Jason Hammel part two, we're talking a good deal here. It's not so much that Hammel is a bad pitcher or one without use, instead it's that on this current staff his use is less than mostly everyone else. In two or three years, who knows how the staff will look, and that's the whole purpose of having sustainable talent waves set in place well ahead of the fact.
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I've heard he throws harder than the 89/90 and is more of 92-93 now.
Flyball pitcher. “Hittable” but throws strikes and doesn’t walk much(hmmm sounds familiar)
I’d be please with this. Remember, we are talking about Jason Hammel here.
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And I just posted something in your other thread saying I doubted you'd get Aneury
While this was being posted. Doh!
Nice pick-up if you do get him, but he’s basically a repeat of Hammel only at a lower level.
That would be fine.
Hammel can be useful, just wrong time, wrong place for him. In two-three years, who knows how things would be different.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 4, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly...
And there’s an outside chance he could be better. The Rockies have been trying to coach Rodriguez to develop a better off speed pitch and elevate his status, but he just hasn’t caught on to anything. His FB and curve should be just enough to get him to the MLB but he’s going to need a changeup to stick.
His FB and curve should be just enough to get him to the MLB but he’s going to need a changeup to stick
Sounds like if that third pitch doesn’t come around he could still be useful in the pen down the road. However, at age 21 it’s hard to project that far down the road.
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Shields could do a thing or two for him in that department.
As for Hammel — flat fastball jokes aside — his minor league track record suggests he should be better than this. I think he can be a league average starter.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 4, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He's going to be a reliever with the Rockies for now
Franklin Morales has been looking like his old self this Spring and Jorge De La Rosa has been looking like old Franklin Morales since the middle of last season, so those two will get the opportunity to start at the beginning of the season. Given the mental issues both have faced in the past, I think the Rockies are looking at Hammel being the safety net in case things start heading south. If not, I think Hammels’ best path back to the rotation this year will be by being better than Jason Marquis, and really, how hard can that be?
How the fuck did we get a decent spect for Hammel?
Congrats Niemann! Congras Cormier! Congrats us!
Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart
haven't we learned not to do this
after the Bay saga
by Sveet on Apr 4, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here another scouting report
Body Type – long and lanky
Stuff
Fastball – sits comfortably between 92 and 94, touching 95 and can throw it for strikes
Curveball – potentially an MLB average pitch, has a slurve like action and he needs to tighten it up…another pitch he can throw for strikes
Change-Up – pretty fringy, but the pitch will most likely determine his fate as a starter
Scouting Report
Rodriguez is often lumped in with the handful of mid-level right handed pitching prospects that include Brandon Hynick, Chaz Roe, Conor Graham, and Cory Riordan. The advantage he has over each of them is age.
He’s always been young for his level and that trend will continue next year at Double-A Tulsa. He misses a healthy amount of bats, but is far from overpowering. He also throws strikes and his control has improved in each of the last two seasons.
A problem for Rodriguez has been how hittable he’s been. He’s a fly ball pitcher so he’s always going to give up his fair share of homeruns, but his BABIP rates have always been high. At Modesto last year, it was a .311, which was an improvement, but he was likely helped from the ball park he played in.
Best Case Outcome – No. 4 starter or possible set up man…his stuff could play up if moved to the bullpen
More Likely Outcome – moved to the bullpen and becomes a 4th or 5th reliever type
by BossmanJunior333 on Apr 4, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
not a bad return for Hammel...
assuming the deal gets done.
AL East 2009:
1. Rays
2. Sox
3. Yankees
by FloridaownsFSU on Apr 4, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Quality means more than quantity.
Rodriguez looks like quality.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 4, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point RJ
two or three prospects sounds great, but when they’re released couple years down the line, what are you left wit?
I'm actually surprised your team is getting somebody as good as Rodriguez
Tomorrow at this time you’d have nothing for giving up Hammel and the other 29 teams know that, so they aren’t going to go too far out on a limb to obtain him.
Well, there's always the chance the Rays would waive Lance Cormier instead.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 4, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if the Rays will waive Cormier over Hammel
First of all, I think Cormier is better than Hammel and wouldn’t the Rays also have to pay a lot more money to Cormier if they released him than Hammel?
Let's remember we're talking about Jason Hammel.
Most teams aren’t going to go out on a limb for him as a general rule.
I'd like to point out
while it might be a good deal for us because we have no where to put Hammel, it is very unlikely we “win” this trade. Rodriguez’s ceiling isn’t very high and as you said, his ceiling is becoming what Jason Hammel already is.
Again, this is the type of player we should be going after, but on a value basis, we lose this trade.
Tools Whore
Perhaps, but compare it to the alternatives, and I don't really see it as a plain ol' loss.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 4, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You're absolutely right.
It’s not a loss, if the trade is made, we’ll clearly get a talented baseball player. But this isn’t a situation where we’re getting great value in a trade or even one we’re likely to win. It’s a good potential deal given the situation.
Tools Whore
Yeah, if it happens it certainly works.
Any idea on where Rodriguez ranks in our system?
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 4, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like its just about a done deal
From MLBtraderumors.com
“5:01pm: Tracy Ringolsby of Inside The Rockies has learned from a Tampa Bay source that the sides are currently working out the details of the deal. He has confirmed that the Rays would get Rodriguez in return.”
www.insidetherockies.com/2009/04/04/details-holding-up-hammel-trade/
In terms of value, one should consider the worth of option years
The Rays may be getting someone of similar talent, but with more team control and more time to decide what to do with him. That’s mad valuable at this point
I could be wrong though
I like this.
A-Rod > bag of balls
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