Brian Shouse, Dan Wheeler, Let Game Slip Away.
by Erik Hahmann on May 10, 2009 11:57 PM EDT
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PrintMatt Garza pitches well, going seven innings and giving up three runs. Lefty killer Brian Shouse comes in to start the 8th inning to face the artist formally known as David Ortiz, and allows him to slam a double off the face of the Green Monster. I hate picking on Shouse because he's good at what he does, and really it's hard to get mad at a guy when he's been so money in those situations this year, but he failed tonight.
Next up, Dan Wheeler. Wheeler was last seen giving up a game tying home run at Yankee Stadium. This situation wouldn't end too differently. Jason Bay strolled to the plate and nearly took Wheeler deep to left field, instead hitting a double off the Monster that was nearly identical to the one Ortiz hit in the previous at bat. Red Sox take a one run lead. Of course Wheeler comes back to get out of the inning without any further damange. Vintage Dan.
A quick search for 'Composure' on thesaurus.com gets you synonyms such as these:
Calm
Cool headed
Poise
Stability
None of those words should be used when describing Dan Wheeler.
This was by far the toughest loss this season I've had to stomach. It's a good thing I don't live close to an SPCA because i'm in the mood to kick defenseless puppies. And I love puppies.
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Wheeler sucks
We know this. The fact that Maddon and Hickey can’t figure it out, does not bode well for our chances.
Given that he has been good occasionally, the problem is that more often than not, he gives up big plays.
I can’t even imagine that he can feel like anything more than a fuck up.
I hope Glen Davis and Jonathan Pepelbon get raped by dogs
Genetically enhanced dogs. With sharp, spiked dicks.
2009 Rays Baseball: God Damn It, Guys
Orlando will still win
This is tough to take, I need to find a funny movie to put on and wind up not laughing anyway
2010 Rotation: 1. Shields 2. Kazmir 3. Garza 4. Price 5. Davis with Hellickson knocking on the door, it keeps getting better and better
I hope they get raped by the machine girl
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Amen JMB...I'll get the dogs, you abduct Papelsmear....and Wheels too if you want
by TheUltimateBucFan on May 11, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The goats were Pena and Upton
Not making contact in that situation is just pathetic.
My goat was Zobrist for not taking charge on that bloop
That run was a back breaker and completely unnecessary.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Aki needs to make that play...
He was in positon, and under the ball and let it go. Zobrist is new to the OF, and while he should have been closer, there is no excuse for Aki not even to attempt to catch it.
This
Zobrist was standing right there. There were two outs, but normally the OF is also in a much better position to make a throw if need be coming through the ball. He needs to become more assertive out there.
by FreeZorilla on May 11, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
He was timid
If we get that out it’s a completely different game.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
With 2 outs it doesnt matter if he i coming through the ball or not....
I understand the OF’er has priority, but Aki was there…and should have bee camped, but he drifed. Zobrist should have been there as well, but when he wasnt, Aki’s got to make that play.
And Aki was under the ball....
Zobrist is new to RF, and Aki knows that. Zobrist didnt call him off and was 10 ft from the ball when it landed. Should he have been closer? Probably…but given the fact he wasnt there, Aki needs tomake that play.
Aki could have had it.
Experience or not, that was an easy play for Zobrist. Easier than for Aki. Aki probably catches that 9-10 times but for a RF it should be 10-10. Therefore Zo has to call him off.
by FreeZorilla on May 11, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I absolutely agree...
Aki is up there for me as well. Not catching the flyball earlier in the game, nd not scoring on Bartlett’s single. That ball bass 10 feet over the 2nd baseman’s head and not even close to being caught. Having said that, having a man on 3rd with nobody out, and not sorin him or even putting the ball in play is embarrassing.
I expect Wheeler to give up that run
What I didn’t expect was to get fast runners on first and third with nobody out and not get the tying run in. It was awful to watch 3 strikeouts in a row. Just get my hopes way up and now I have to drink all night to forget it.
Papelbon is good for a reason
But yeah, that was really dissapointing, especially since the Rays had been banking those runs recently. But it can’t happen every time, I’d rather it happen against a really good reliever like Papelbon then against some crappy junkballer. If the Rays can take both against Baltimore, this will still have been a very successful road trip.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
very true
but like Erik said, this was the toughest loss so far to swallow, because it felt so close and it was a division game. By no means the end of the world or anything….but it stings.
by free hotdogs on May 11, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
blame the pitchers if you want...
i blame pena, i blame upton, and i blame maddon.
pena and upton are obvious. major league hitter have to make some sort of contact in that case. three batters in a row (including CC) swung at the same garbage up and out of the zone.
i blame maddon for:
1. not playing pena. this rest shit is ridiculous. he’s a 1b, and he’s been on fire, he doesn’t need to rest against a division rival.
2. expecting pena to catch up to 97 after sitting all game
3. letting pena and upton swing the damn bat. you have the 2 guys on your team who you say are, right now, the most likely guys on the team to strike out, try calling a suicide or even a safety squeeze!
1. Pena's ran a 5K this year against Beckett in 5 chances, Aybar hasn't played in a while, and I would prefer we get him AB's when we can
3. I would have liked to have seen Upton bunt.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Pena could K 10x
in a row and i still want him in there more than Aybar,and yes Willy had a nice game
He may on the 11th swing hit the game winning HR
PS—Beckett has ben very UN-Beckett like this year
He's pitched very well against us in 2 outings
and piss poor in one.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Pena should've hit for Aki, actually.
Should he get on base, sub Kapler or Gross to run (I know I know), then, after Bartlett moves the runner, have Navi in there to bunt. He’s demonstrated a proficiency in that department. Then switch Zoby and whatever Gabe came in, defensively.
by PlayOnWords on May 11, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
"Pena's on fire" "letting Pena swing the bat"
So, our second best hitter and the AL leader in homeruns should bunt with nobody out and two on?
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Wheeler sucks, but this is already established...
I agree that what is most frustrating is the 9th inning display of baseball. First Aki doesn’t score on Bartlett’s hit. I know it’s tough when it’s a blooper, but he has to read that better. The ball was not in danger of being caught, and the hesitation cost us a run. In his defense, though, it’s no big deal because you’re not thinking score or die. There’s no one out. Surely you’ll score from third after one of the next couple of guys makes contact, right?
Cue the worst of tonight with Pena and Upton. Just terrible. And Maddon has got to do a safety squeeze at least with Upton, who almost literally has no chance up there right now, especially against someone like Papelbon. I mean it, almost LITERALLY NO CHANCE is what he had.
Sigh.
I don't blame Aki for not trying to score at all
I was scared he was going to try, because I thought he had no chance to score…..and especially with nobody out.
by free hotdogs on May 11, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
He didnt read Bartlett's ball well at all...
It was well over the 2nd basman’s head
You forgot about Zobie being too timid to call off Aki on the bloop job
Is it just me or do you never see anyone get a good solid hit off Garz? If one guy does the next guy gets poo’d on. These scratch hits are all you ever see off of him
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Over the long haul a sac bunt may be a statistically worse bet then letting a hitter swing away. This is what sabermetrics tell us. However, each situation needs to be evaluated in context. In this situation there was pretty much a 0% chance that Upton was going to make contact. The guy hasn’t been able to catch up to a fastball all season and we are counting on him to make contact against a 97mph fastball. I was just praying for a walk. Did anyone really believe BJ was going to make contact? Half of his hits this season have looked like bunts anyways. What the harm? There is absolutely no excuse to not get the runner home from third with no outs. None.
Yes, there were other people to blame. But being that close in the ninth and coming away with nothing is beyond frustrating.
In defense of Melvin,
he did rip a 94+ FB from Beckett (I think in his last AB prior to the 9th) for a basehit to LF, so maybe that was on Maddon’s mind.
by ValricoBrian on May 11, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
A pitcher could tell BJ, “I’m throwing a 95 mph belt high over the plate” and he’d still fail to hit it with any kind of authority right now. He looks like an A ball player called up for a cup of coffee right now at the plate.
by Jason Collette on May 11, 2009 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions
What's worse about the 3 strikeouts
Only I think 1 strike was a foul ball, and that was to Upton, that’s just pathetic that contact can’t even be made. I’m still wondering why Upton doesn’t bunt more often, he’s pretty good at it. It’s obvious that Pena needs to remain behind Longoria otherwise that part of the lineup gets considerably weaker since PTB has 0 power right now. He got totally pitched around tonight.
Keep scoring three runs in an AL game
much less an ALE game at Fenway, and count the losses
Bases loaded,one out they score but one, and 1st and third, none out—three straight Ks
That’s the thread we should focus on
You realize we're 6-4 against Boston right? Including 3-3 in Fenway after going like 2-9 there last year.
I’ll admit it sucked we should’ve at least been able to put a ball in play there and Wheeler should be the new mop up man, but taking 6 out of the first 10 against Boston is pretty good. Now we just need to pick it up against non-Yankee/Red Sox opponents.
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by Tommy Rancel on May 11, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
You're a stats oriented guy
what is the percentage of scoring at least one run with runners on 1st and 3rd and none out?
The entire population is not representative of facing Papelbon
I would say to come up with that average, Pap would be in the upper 95.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I like you, but your 'homerism' is nauseating
I don’t believe it’s anywhere near 95%, unless his K/9 is somewhere near 27
Name 10 guys you would like to face less in that situation
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The entire population isn't made up of a scenario where scoring 1 run is vitally important
There is a difference in approach when 1st and 3rd and the team is looking for a big inning compared to when 1 run has much more value added.
Tommy
What worries me, despite being 6-4, is that there were some bad decisions made during this series. I would be happy losing those games if I though Maddon or Hickey made the right decisions. We could have won both games.
In addition, Maddon has made some questionable decisions this season with the bullpen, especially with Wheeler and Shouse. I am not encouraged for the rest of the season.
So
The manager of the year is suffering from a managerial regression? No one is perfect, but the Rays are in great hands. I’ll never understand the Percy and Wheeler thing, but all in all its hard to argue with Joe’s performance. There is no easier sport to second guess than baseball. I’d love for a GDT to consist of nothing but what would you domanagerial decisions before the results are in. Nothing like on the record comments to throw back at armchair quarterbacks. In a sport where failure is the expectation, it is way too easy to criticize.
by FreeZorilla on May 11, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
See Above
“I’ll never understand the Percy and Wheeler thing”
Having said that last week, I cringed when Maddon went to Wheelz vs Jeter, but he induced a sharp looking K. He was right. Then Maddon went to Howell vs Damon and Texeira. Now I cringed b/c Wheeler had his stuff. Even though I wanted Howell in initially, you never know when a pitcher will or won’t have his stuff so sometimes it s best to stick with whats working. I’m not immune to second guessing but I recognize that I too am often proven wrong, and Joe is often right. He never gets credit when hes right.
by FreeZorilla on May 11, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me follow up by saying, that I don't think they are doing a terrible job
I just feel that in the AL East, they are perhaps not doing well enough. And well enough is probably perfect given how we played earlier this season.
Shouse being in for Ortiz made complete sense.
Wheeler, no, but the rest of the pen has worked a lot lately.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
He was warming.
I don’t like Wheeler in high leverage situations either, but I think that’s the only bad thing Maddon did last night. Even if you penalize Pena for pinch hitting, he’s still a better option than Navarro, and Upton is a better option than Navarro as well.
We lost the coinflip, oh well. It happens.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I know you hate the bunt
But I think Navi would’ve been able to plate the runner on the third. Pena was subbed in for the wrong guy. I would have had him PH for Aki.
by PlayOnWords on May 11, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
How many times have I said small sample sizes like that have zero predictive power?
They mean absolutely nothing.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Maddon screwed up
Yes Navi sucks this year, but he hasn’t Kd 42x
Let him bat and PH for BJ, who hasn’t come close
Yes.
Let’s have the guy with a .410 wOBA, or whatever Pena’s is now, not hit for the guy with a .250 wOBA. Because if Navarro hits, you wouldn’t be bitching about it at all, right?
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Your responses to stupid arguments are epic. They are part of what keeps me coming back to this site.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 11, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Navi and Upton are both awful this year
but at least navi might do one of his famous 4-6-3 DP and tie the game
I knew Upton would K, befor he was announced
Well aren't you special?
And I just checked. Pena has .200 wOBA points on Navarro. That’s about 0.2 runs per plate appearance. Yet, you want Navarro to hit because “he might put a ball on the ground”. Instead of the guy hitting balls into the freaking wilderness because “he might strike out”. So when Navarro rolls to first and Aki can’t score, then what do you complain about? “Why was Navarro hitting?!”
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Anything but a K probably scores a run
Pena and Upton were very good bets to K, Navarro isn’t
I know you’ll shoot this down, but that’s my thought
And since your way failed, we’ll never know about mine
Seriously. Why is this hard to understand.
Navarro
Upton
Crawford
You have your second best hitter available, you’re going to hit for your weakest of those three. It’s Navarro, no doubt.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Then PH for both Navi and Upton
Were Gross or Kapler in the game yet?
This is a much smarter argument to make.
And no, neither were in the game.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Cool, i d just don't allow BJ to bat there
and i do not hate him
You could have used this argument vs the Os w/ 2 outs
and you would have been wrong. Upton got a key hit down the line giving the Rays the lead. No one credited Maddon for not pinch hitting for his slumping star.
Perosonally, I let Pena swing away for Navi. Then if he fails I bunt Beej.
by FreeZorilla on May 11, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Elliot Johnson
Papelbaums hate Johnsons.
Call him up. Win the game. It’s that simple. Mr. March could have been Mr. Mid-May.
The problem is you are simply using the wrong metrics here
The question isn’t who is a better hitter, or who has the higher OPS or wOBA. All of that is frankly irrelevant. Everyone knows BJs potential and how good of a hitter he really is. Everyone knows Pena has been great.
We are not questioning the strength of BJ or Pena playing a season against the average pitcher and the average scenarios. We get it.
The thing is this was a specific scenario, with specific values for specific outcomes. The Rays were down 1 run vs a power throwing closer. We have a man on 3rd base and less than 2 outs. The goal is simple. Make contact. Doesn’t matter if it goes 10 feet of 300 feet. Make contact. OPS is irrelevant. We don’t care if you get no base, or if you slug. We care if you make contact. A “K” has the lowest possible value it could possibly have in a baseball game. Whereas a GB and a FB have values that shoot up through the roof compared to normal. A walk is actually less valuable than it normally would be.
So basically in this scenario BJ Upto was the worst player on our team to hit. By far actually. I love him to death, but the chance of him making contact against Papelbon was lower than any other player on the team. He was the worst option.
Personally I:
1. Hit Pena for Navi
2. Bunt Upton. I do not PH Upton because that would destroy his confidence. Bunting Upton would have around the same success rate as having Kapler or Gross hit.
The last thing I’d do is let Upton swing away. I think it is safe to say that the Rays would have been better off with quite a few Draysbay posters hitting ove Upton in that situation. At least would have thrown the bat out and actually hit the ball a few feet. Upton literally was going to K.
If I wanted to rank the players I'd want up in that situation I'd use
- of balls in play-IF pop ups-GB to pitcher/PA
"I think it is safe to say that the Rays would have been better off with quite a few Draysbay posters hitting ove Upton in that situation."
Congratulations for making the most ridiculous comment in site history. Nobody on this site is hitting better than anyone on the Rays.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ever. No one on this site is hitting better than any person who has put on a Devil Ray uniform.
Tools Whore
Nobody said that
You simply cannot use the metrics you are using in this scenario. OPS for example is close to worthless. A draysbay poster with an OPS of exactly .000 could have more value than Upton given Upton’s probable K rate in that situation.
Of course if Upton went up there with the mindset just to put the ball in play he could probably do it all the time. But he didn’t do that.
How do you know that his goal was "not to put the ball in play"
that seems beyond ludicrous to me.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If you could put my heart in Ben Grieve's body he woulda been an All-American
Rudy’d
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually at worst we all do exactly what BJ did
And I didn’t say posters were better hitters than Upton. I said they would have been better off in that situation. You aren’t adapting based upon the scenario.
Upton would strike out maybe 75% of the time in that situation? Maybe a bit more? You are telling me that you really think we do not have any poster here, and I recall some played as high as college ball, that could just make contact more than 25% of the time? The type of contact is nearly irrelevant.
Sonny would embarrass you
He should be our first PH off the bench, dude’s rocking a .900 OPS
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on what?
Even if you use OPS B.J.’s is about .040 points higher.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Based on the ONE thing i stated
when i made this post, he strikes out less than Upton
I get that people like ragging on B.J., Sonny, and Gross just to get at me.
But this is a silly argument.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
This offense is completely over rated
we have three outstanding hitters, and then the drop off is staggering
Really, right now out 9 and 1 hole hitters
are automatic outs. You can’t over come that dead spot in the line up. And as someone else said. Longo needs Pena behind him, he got nothing to hit tonight.
by BOHICA_ALEast on May 11, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Excellent point
Thank you Joe Maddon
A ‘rest’ day befoe a day oiff against Boston no less
Aybar held his own.
2-3 off Beckett w/ a double. 4-6 for career now with 2 extra base hits.
Pena is 3-22 lifetime vs Beckett with 13Ks.
This was not why we lost.
Key reasons:
-Zo’s continued refusla to call off Aki even though hes standing right there in position
- Another Bullpen Failure (more to come on this later)
-Failure to get the runner from 3rd home with no outs in the 9th. RE with runners on the corners wih no outs was 1.904 with an 87.3% chance of the runner from 3rd scoring. Given the situation, adjusting for the great Papelbon and the opportunity to sacrifice and out to get the tying run home in the 9th, that % seems accurate.
I’m really over Boston sports today. ugh.
If either Gabe were in right -- does that ball drop?
If C-Pain is at 1B, does the throw to catch (Boston player I can’t remember at the moment) turn Navi around completely? Those are two runs right there that we cost ourselves by playing sloppy defense. Not Rays defense.
Can’t excuse the 3 Ks in the 9th, though.
And I honestly thought Spitfire should’ve gone against Papi. He wasn’t catching up to Spitfire all night.
by PlayOnWords on May 11, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Aybar's Throw
I don’t know that there was even a play at the plate. The poor decision to throw allowed a runner to reach 1st safely. The fact the throw was offline was irrelevent. The additional runner did not result in any runs.
by FreeZorilla on May 11, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Looked to me like there was a play
The runner didn’t slide across until after Navi had been twisted around. If that things on target, he just lays the tag down in time.
by PlayOnWords on May 11, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
He did play
0-1 K
This decision did not cost the game and Pena got a well deserved rest.
by FreeZorilla on May 11, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
We have four regulars with wOBAs over .400.
Longo, Pena, Crawford, and Bartlett.
Continue making stupid statements without any facts behind them.
by R.J. Anderson on May 11, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
This thread is epic.
No on causes more spiteful vitriol to be spewed than losing to Boston sports.
As RJ put it, the game was a coin flip and we made mistakes we shouldn’t have. The run that scored on Aki’s error should have never happened. Ultimately, Aybar’s play (as piss poor as it was) was meaningless and anyone arguing for Pena to have played is ridiculous. Pena doesn’t make that play either, sucks against Beckett, and Aybar got 2 hits, as well as one really good defensive play.
What angers me most were Carl and BJ’s at abts. I get Pena K’ing, those strikes were at the top of the zone and he had to take a chance on them. But, BJ and Carl shouldn’t have fucking moved their bats once. Papelbon was not pitching well, wasn’t locating particularly well. That was really, really frustrating to watch because it was less Papelbon being a bad ass and more the Rays beating themselves.
In the big picture, this is hardly the catastrophe it feels like. We’re 6-4 against Boston, we’ve got a .500 record during this road trip with a chance to get two more wins against Baltimore before coming home. We’re also not going to play Boston again for some time, which is nice.
Considering how often we’ve been on the road and all the games against the Sox and Yanks, I’m okay with our place in the standings, especially considering we have yet to really play our best ball.
Also, ESPN's crew was only slightly less tolerable than FOX's.
I liked when Joe Morgan suggested it was a good idea to walk Crawford to get to Longoria.
Yes, that makes PERFECT sense, Joe. /facepalm
Why would he not shut up about his "advice" that he gave to Crawford
I imagine it was along the lines of take that round bat and hit that round ball square. Joe Morgan FTL
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Also his mysterious advice that he gave to David Ortiz
“PLAYERS win games, Papi. Not numbers. How do you think we got Enron? Swing faster.”
Joe Morgan is the smartest guy in the room
Check that in the zoo
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It's on you
I’m just saying that his brainwaves resemble that of an animal
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 11, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
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