Reid Brignac and Dale Thayer Promoted, Scott Kazmir and Troy Percival to the DL
by Tommy Rancel on May 22, 2009 1:04 PM EDT
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According to Marc Lancaster, the mystery Durham Bulls to be called up are Reid Brignac and Dale Thayer. The lack of a starting pitcher in this equation leads me to believe Scott Kazmir and everybody else in the rotation is safe. My bet is two relievers will hit the DL, possibily Joe Nelson and Troy Percival. Of course that is just speculation, but we'll see how this all shakes out in the next few hours.
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Lancaster has confirmed the promotions.
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Percival officially to the DL, as first reported by Steve Duemig.
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So Thayer, Brignac are on the way up, Percival is to the DL, and one other player will join him, as there are reportedly no roster moves of the trade/DFA variety.
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Scott Kazmir is your other DL tripper. A pulled quad, per Marc Lancaster.
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They can't even find a spot for zobrist in the line up.
Why brignac?
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is
to get him some exposure, to get another body on the bench (back to 13 position players) and potentially move Aki (complete guess)
Thayer Good. Brignac...::shrug::
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Brig is going to be as bad or worse at teh plate right?
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been mashing in Durham.
Not saying he’s going to hit that well in the bigs though.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
MLE had him at something like a .690 OPS
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Aki can't feel to secure right about now
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
He is hitting somewhat near/above expectations this year...
Could be a good time to SELL SELL SELL
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Milwaukee could use a 2B you know.
/ignoring Counsell being good
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If you consider Aybar and Zobrist viable options at SS
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Becks is a long ways down the road
What’s wrong with the guy we have over there now?
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing whatsoever
Hes a huge reason its loaded. The pipeline is just loaded. Really a luxury when Aki is expendable to refreshthe pipeline elsewhere
Fuck the pipeline I want a stud with a frying pan for a glove and warhammer for a bat
GIVE ME GAMEL
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Where have I heard this mentioned before
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Street cleaning out his locker..............
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 22, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn't behind that
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, i just wanted to post it
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 22, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Aki is 30 and should be declining soon...
Plus his contract > Briggy.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If you are implying that Asians age differently I think you should know that's
borderline racism
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine is Nanking
fuck Japan
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He played a TON in Japan.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He sucks
oh wait
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
overdue
yet obvious
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
Gross is still going to get his reps.
This tells me that we needed at RH Bat for an inter-league series.
by BigBadBossman on May 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Could Abreu come up instead of Brignac? Unless we're trading someone, fingers crossed!
And can Zobrist finally be an everyday right fielder?
There has to be a trade coming. Work your magic Friedman and convince Peavy he wants to play for an AL team haha
Been on the bandwagon since '98
Are we building a team of relief pitchers or something?
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Shields, Garza, Price, Davis, and Peavy as quadclosers.
4 inning games!
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would a pitcher leave the NL West?
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
sweet
I got it.
Sonny pitches the first 2 innings of every game til his arm falls off…. quad-closers handle the 3-9th every game. we win national championship
As long as the voters realize this is an unbeatable strategy.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Can I still pretend Price is coming up?
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
2-3 weeks
worth the wait
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
29 year old rookie
Thought those only existed in SF
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddon is one for oddities
and I thought we might be DLing and/or sending down some pitchers. We need 30 men in the bullpen if we can’t get our starters to go very far in the game.
Been on the bandwagon since '98
Why hasn't Thayer had a shot yet?
28 year-old rookie who has a 2.24 era with 396 K’s in 386 innings. Makes you wonder why Friedman would bring in old washed up relievers with bad arms with a guy like this in AAA.
Still a mistake
we could have got his numbers from Ruggs
Let's not forget he was retired
a year ago at this time and had a short flurry with MIL
I’m becoming very skeptic of NL to AL players
Note Burrell, Kapler, DeRosa to name a few
Definitely
Too bad everyone knows we’re desperate to unload a couple pitchers and no one on our staff has options. We’ll get no value for anyone, thanks Friedman.
I don't want to do that but I'd like to see him not play as much(espescially over Zobrist).
I love Gross as a backup and I’d settle for a platoon with just him or Zobrist. Keep Kapler as solely a backup! Put Kapler in left to rest CC’s knees at home.
Been on the bandwagon since '98
LOL, so instead of crediting DRaysBay, you remove Rays Index and don’t credit anyone else for reporting the news? Nice!
Posted by: Caleb | May 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 22, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
unless Aki is being moved, Bringing up Briggy makes no sense
let him keep getting reps everyday in Durham and bring up Ruggiano.
What if they need an infielder?
Joe said on radio after game he planed on giving Aki/Barty a day off.
Swav or Die.
Sunk cost is sunk cost. Why take up a roster spot with it? Teams DFA people with contracts on them all the time.
The SAWX once DFA’d manny
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 22, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That many not be the best example, but teams dfa players with huge contracts all the time
How about Andruw Jones?
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 22, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Word.
I would argue most those teams have more payroll flexibility than we do, but when a guy sucks and costs money, it’s better just to get rid of him.
Some would argue that we can take on more payroll than we let on. I really don’t know about the financial side of baseball well enough to roll with that statement.
Well it depends too.
If you’re waiving a guy to replace him with someone in the Minor leagues, you’re just eating sunk cost since the price of the minor leaguer is marginal. If you’re doing it however to clear up a roster spot for a potential trade that’s bringing back a large salary, then you’re just burning money, and it isn’t a smart move.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
I dont get it...
We don’t do anything with Percy when he’s looking like absolute shit, but we DL him (according to that report) when he actually looks half decent as of late.
I don't see why we keep toying with him on the DL, just DFA.
I don’t think he is going to figure anything out anymore
this was a theme in Little Big League
where the kid is happy when his old hero gets one hit in a game, and the pitching coach Mac tells him something to the effect of ‘yr this happy when he gets one base hit’? he’s done
Theme here is: don't knock Balfour or BJ
they’re untouchable
You're an idiot
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Being bad is his fault.
And being hurt and continuing to pitch, meaning being even more bad, is the dumbest, most selfish thing possible.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
BUT GRIT!!!!!1
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 22, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, are you really defending Percival?
Look at his pitch/fx data. He had no control yesterday. If it was a strike, it was right over the plate.
No I think he's trash but just saying he's looked much worse and nothing has been done
stop putting words in my mouth
Internet Tough Guy
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 22, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually agree with 813
Percival has sucked for a long time. He has sucked worse. He is still sucking, but his suckiness isn’t as bad as it was before. It would have made far more sense to get rid of him like 1000 appearances ago.
But I'm still for DFAing him
I just don’t see why its taken so long. I am just perplexed that they would put up with him really sucking but then get rid of him once he gets slightly better (although still way in the realm of horrid).
Still want him gone and that's not changing anytime soon.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This is an isolated case.
99.5% of the FO’s moves make complete sense.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Made sense
Didn’t work out, but made sense at the time.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He had done nothing in his entire time in our farm system
He appeared to be a gigantic bust, and as it turned out a change of scenery was beneficial. He would have done nothing if he had stayed in Tampa
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
no way...
A talent like Hamilton—-you know, a talent able to overcome almost 5 years off & start raking in the big leagues—-would’ve done something if he stayed here. Isn’t Friedman even on record as saying this was a mistake? Even if you argue we couldn’t deal with the distraction on a young team back then(constant life coach/mentor around, can’t go out with teammates on the road)—-or you didn’t want to give a recovering crack addict a big contract extension if he DID do well—-you still keep him on the 40-man, lest you can deal him & get a Volquez(sp?).
What are your precedents?
Steve Howe, Doc Gooden, Darryl Strawberry? Yeah those guys went out to consistently produce after “getting over” their addictions. Hamilton is hurt now and really wasn’t the same guy after the ASG last year. Argue if you want, but this isn’t even their worst “mistake”.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides, fuck guys with money and good families who decide to start smoking crack.
Pick a more reasonable addiction, Josh!
It's debatable.
Not really worth debating, but it is. In a vacuum of the Josh Hamilton situation, it was a decent move. He didn’t want to play at AA, he had bad connections in the area, etc… but, considering some of the guys we kept on the 40 man, it was a mistake.+
I never understood releasing John Rodriguez.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Also trading Bobby Abreu!
Wait, what?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
One that didn't make sense was
Shawn Camp, we knew he was a sick groundballer playing on a horrible defensive team. Also, I wish we had made room for Jorge, but I don’t hate that move since he wasn’t replicating his sick 2005.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
and his poc-marked face
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
winner
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
DH
He would have been better than the tragic life story that was Greg Norton
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If only we could make a Cantu/Travis Less hybrid...
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's called Mark Teixiera
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
The original Black Jesus?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus could walk on water
Jesus could have been pitching from a one man island and not hit water.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would be Esteban Yan.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It's very personal with you and Percy
i’m not a fan of his, but till i see an adequate replacement, keep him
And not BB Balfour
What the hell?
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 22, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
An adequate replacement for Percival?
You mean a batting tee?
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Gomes called up today.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 22, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Gomes < everything?
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 22, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You see gomes is white
and therefore a fan favorite.
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not white enough for me
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 22, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Gomes.
I just didn’t want him here as long as he was batting .181 and had to play the outfield.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Trade Wheeler for Gomes.
Then call Gomes up in Sept. Just because.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 22, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck yeah Jonny!
Shoulda never been sent down by them in the 1st place.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Maybe we can get Jody Gerut and Seth McClung for Aki :)
but seriously any chance at all there is a trade here or just some DL moves?
Seth McClung's ass didn't make it to the World Series, did it?
Also, he has 14 walks in 20 innings this season. And you’re bitching at Balfour about walks?
For comparison, Balfour has given up 13 walks in 19 innings.
Not good either, but better. Also, Balfour’s 18 Ks are better than McClung’s 13. Nice of Aussie to keep his K/BB ratio positive.
you guys are so defensive
i hate McClung, but i pointed out ine little thing, his ERA, and y’all go into a rant—settle down
It's becuase you have an irrational hatred for Balfour.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
i hate the BB by any pitcher
and since he tops the list, he gets pointed out
Except he doesn't top the list. That honor belongs to Nelson.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
When are you going to start hating on Garza? He's 2nd amongst the starters in walks?
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
and it cost him two runs
yesterday losing Holliday with a lead off BB after having him 1-2
You have to take the good with the bad
Walks alone don’t justify dismissal of a pitcher’s ability.
by BigBadBossman on May 22, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
of course not, but just look at how many lead off walks
score, especially in a close game in the late innings
This.
We finally get to see Thayer come up, everybody agrees it’s great beacuse a) he gets his chance and b) it means Percy is likely DL’d or DFA’d… yet, you bring up Balfour as an option.
Balfour is good. is he 2008 good? No, but the man’s a good reliever. Appreciate it him for what he is – 1 walk, and then strikes out the side.
I never mentioned Balfour
someone else made the McClung/Balfour comparison
i know that, and it's funny i saw
he got a win yuesterday so i looked at his stats and saw his ERA
otherwise i care less about him
by current do you mean biased?
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you can use career numbers
The players skills and numbers fluctuate too wildly for numbers a few or a couple years back to mean that much. If anything you’d have to do a weighted average if you want to use career numbers.
But of course Grant is better than Seth.
I hate you too.
No reason in particular.
by BigBadBossman on May 22, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It's cool.
After what I did to your mother last night, it would be unreasonable to expect otherwise.
by Suttree on May 22, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's a better arguement, the irish are reprehensible.
And mcclung is irish.
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Ulyssess...
I didn’t have a lot of dates in high school. Was reading Ulysses the cause or effect of that? YOU BE THE JUDGE.
Oh, that and the disfigured face. That probably didn’t help either.
You went to High School? Huh.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully this is greeted with the optimism it
was intended to have
Last year we went to the WS having suffered through Reyes and Glover getting high leverage situations in out pen
you're only looking for the negative
i’m sure RJ will tell you i’m a huge fan, just a bit jaded, due to many long years suffering while living in CLE
You come across better in your emails.
Your timing on site rubs people the wrong way, you know this.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He's right.
Cleveland will do this to people.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Living in the Mistake by the Lake will do that to you I suppose.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Take a look at the indians from
‘62-’99, the years i followed them, some pretty awful teams
Not to mention:
Red Right 88
The Drive
The Fumble
the Cuyahoga being set on fire
The pre-Lebron Cavs
Losing the hockey team (Barons?)
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand you now.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well done.... but you forgot
Tim Couch
Don Rodgers
Brian Sipe vs. Oakland 1981 playoffs
Municipal Stadium
Bengals in two Super Bowls… Browns, still waiting
Ravens Super Bowl Champions and overall Post-Cleveland move success
Vic Wertz fly ball to center in the 1954 WS
Jim Brown retiring to become an “actor”
…. and the many more I’m forgetting
But on the positive… Cedar Point isn’t that far away, Lots of snow for snowball fights, and LeBron for another year….
by RalphieTheRay on May 23, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Per Lancaster:
Brignac and Thayer are definite. Nothing official yet and prob won’t be for a bit — Friedman flying down here from SEC Tourney
M.V.Z. Most Valuable Zorilla!
Wow, I would be mad, but if we pulled something good for him, that'd be a decent enough move.
It would make Brig’s move up permanent as the primary IF replacement.
He will only be up briefly
unless there are some larger developments. Plus I think he is what he is at this point
Hopefully less injured
I’ll be thrilled if he ends up being a healthy Greene
Vogt early, Vogt often.
yeah, I'm hoping he's more Stephen Drew than that.
But, cost controlled Khalil Greene is not bad, particularly if he ends up moving to 2B.
I was referring to his general career.
He has turned the corner with plate discipline this year, though. Dunno if it’s real. Too bad we don’t get O-Swing type data for minor leaguers.
I think people underrate his focus on defense last season
I think it directly relates to his drop off at the plate.
I don't think he has much development left at AAA
Sure regular at bats will help, but I don’t think he needs them anymore
Probably, unless they think he's pretty much capped out at AAA and has more value to us now.
Likely it’s only a weekend visit, though. He’ll be back in Durham when Bat gets back.
Happy to see Thayer make it
Talk about someone needing to produce to get a look. Briganc confuses me a bit unless there’s a follow-up move or someone is hurt that we don’t know about
Vogt early, Vogt often.
LEARN TO USE FANGRAPHS, OLD MAN.
2008 AAA Thayer:
69 IP, 76 Ks, 24 BB, 2.77 ERA, 2.41 FIP.
2009 AAA Thayer
19.1 IP, 11 Ks, 5 BB, 0.93 ERA, 3.51 FIP
in the meantime, welcome back to the bigs our boy J.G. RT: @ctrent #Reds moves: Jonny Gomes, Homer Bailey, Carlos Fisher up…
congrats gomer.
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AC/DC + Tampa Bay Rays = Big Balls on a Budget
by Orlando Rays on May 22, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Believe this at your own risk.
BigDogwdae Percival not with team. Eyewitness and very reliable sees him on flight to Vegas!!
No idea if it’s true or not, but…
The "flight to Vegas" thing seems a bit out there.
Dunno.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah... I'm pretty sure he would have gone on a Terminator-in-the-police-station type rampage.
He just wouldn’t have enough time to get on a flight by now.
If he was told yesterday, maybe I can buy him flying home.
That just seems too specific to be true though.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Troy Percival Spotted
Passed out, shirtless in the B Terminal of TIA. Two empty cases of Natty Ice cans and a half eaten bucket of fried chicken scattered around his person.
by BigBadBossman on May 22, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Heater says two have been placed on DL.
If Percival’s really gone, he’s one of them.
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Bartlet better not be injured....
Aki for that matter too.
by BigBadBossman on May 22, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's been covered all ready.
But, for recap sake.
C: Navarro, Hernandez
1B: Pena
2B: Aki
3B: Longoria
SS: Bartlett
LF: Carl
CF: BJ
RF: Gross
Kapler (OF), Zobrist (OF), Aybar (IF), Brignac (IF), Hernandez ©
Just balancing out the roster.
Zobrist has been an IF his whole career
just because we need him in RF doesn’t make him more OF, than IF. Ruggiano would have balanced the roster out just the same.
This being said, If Maddon is finally going to make Zobrist the everyday RF than it makes sense, but considering it hasn’t been done yet I have little faith that decision has been made.
Need positional flexibility for double switches + extra bat off bench
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Brignac
Won’t bringing up Brignac allow the Rays more flexibility?….Then you can play Zobrist more in RF and not worry about him spelling Barty or Aki. You bring up another outfileder it limits when you can use Zobrist. Too crowded in RF if you bring up another OF for guys to get at bats. Aki and Barty don’t need that many days off. This move should get more of Zobrist in the line up.
If Maddon wanted to play Zobrist more in RF he could have
We still have Aybar and if something did happen to Barty or Aki in a game than all he had to do was move Zo to the infield and bring in a Gabe to RF.
While this gives us more flexability if Maddon doesn’t want to use Zo as an everyday RF this won’t affect that.
so what happens when PTB comes back and Briggy goes back to Durham
the world doesn’t end and I’m pretty sure PTB isn’t playing IF any time soon.
Then Aybar won't be DHing and can play the infield.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, for these next three games this is the case as well, but you get my point.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
so we take Brignac out of the everyday line-up in Durham for 2 days worth of use off the bench
unless Barty tweaked something and needs a couple days off this makes no sense.
Isn’t PTB due back in less than a week.
Are you really freaking out cause Brignac will miss a couple games at Durham?
This happened last year. He came up for less than a week and went back. It happens.
Are there
any restrictions to putting someone on the DL, or can you basically just put anyone on there?
He could file a grievance, but I imagine he was taken aside and told that he can either be on the DL and get paid
or he can go home for the rest of the year and get paid. Only one of those options gives him any chance to get back on the field this year.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Nelson next? JP to close please
given that it is Thayer and not Talbot/Price, I’m assuming the next move is another reliever.
and who takes over the 9th, JP please
i agree
nelson to the DL please, howell needs to be handed the 9th inning duties. balfour and cormier and issy and thayer can split the 7th and 8th.
In case you’re wondering on that front, looks like Carlos Hernandez would be the guy on proper rest if they do need a starter that day.
That’s from Lancaster. Frankly, if we call up Durham’s 4th best starter, I’ll be upset.
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I was just about to post that from Lancaster
he seems to think that Kaz may be the guy going on the DL
Price or Davis or I end myself
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
Non-40 man guys are long term replacements, not short term ones.
Hernandez is last on this list, I don’t know why people keep thinking he’s going to come up sooner.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Not really
If we add Carlos Hernandez and remove him in a month, are we really going to be upset if he gets plucked off waivers?
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by Imperialism32 on May 22, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he good enough to get plucked?
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
I guess that's a maybe, if they're really hell-bent on sticking to their guns with the rotation guys, a 2nd long reliever wouldn't hurt.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
My thoughts are
Talbot is the clear cut #1, on the 40 man, has a little bit of experience and it doesn’t seem like we are in a hurry to bring up Davis or Price. While Hernandez would need to be added, if he struggles than we can just put him on waivers, if he is good than he goes to the pen and someone else goes on the dl when Kaz is ready.
Talbot's scheduled tonight for the Bulls, so that could give us a clue.
We’ll see if he makes the start.
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by Imperialism32 on May 22, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
well it will be very telling after the game
If Talbot starts his game tonight, then it wont be him…..
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
Price, sure...Davis not really
I would even accept Talbot.
by Lurch's Lobbyists on May 22, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
eh whatever
at this point, id rather see Price but post All Star, I would love both
Nice to put 2 weak links on the DL now if Wheeler, Sonny and Nelson can wake up……
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
So, exactly like Christmas.
Unless your family doesn’t beat you with a belt.
by Suttree on May 22, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
recd
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-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Lancaster reported so.
He’s on everything today.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Srsly.
Take that Topkin.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Also per Lancaster:
“Kaz out by quad pull due to mechanics”
LOL
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You know that's a big pile of shit; don't eat it.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
reason why bringing him up is pointless unless Barty is hurt or in desperate need of a day off
playing without a DH means Aybar is available.
We'll make another move on Monday.
No point calling up a starter now for him to sit and do nothing for 3 days.
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Hernandez i think..
But they could pull any of this weekends starters. We’ll probably know who it is before Monday.
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Price would put people in the stands if they want to go the "business sense" route..
Apart from “in the know” fans, nobody really knows who Wade Davis is.
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It's gotta be Price.
Talbot pitches tonight, David pitched on the 20th, so he’ll have an extra day of rest.
The Durham pitching
Yesterday was Houser
Today is Talbot
Tomorrow is Price
Sunday is Davis
Monday is Hernandez
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by Imperialism32 on May 22, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love that. I really am pulling for Houser cuz he reps the SRQ.
I saw his family after a game last spring with him.
Swav or Die.
If anyone gets pulled from the rotation this weekend.
We know who is coming up.
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Minus Johan, is this rotation better than the Mets?
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~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 22, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry guys
DurhamBullsHope I didn’t cause all the Bulls Twitter followers too much stress last night. I can’t release names until the Rays make it official.
Swav or Die.
What a douche.
I went to sleep two hours later than I wanted to because of that.
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