Scott Kazmir and Troy Percival Officially Heading to the Disabled List
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:25 PM EDT
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As per the Rays press release; tendinits for Percival, a right quad strain for Kazmir.
Look, there's nothing to lose with switching out Percival and Thayer. The worst case scenario is Thayer being just as poor as Percival, but pitching in situations of far less importance. He's effectively the lowest on the bullpen totem pole, and that's probably fine by him. Expectations wise, hard to say, I wouldn't suggest thinking he's going to become a lock-down reliever, the stuff is and will be questioned and we don't really have any data on his pitches, so I can't say one way or the other. He missed bats throughout the minors though. On a lighter note; congrats Dale Thayer, you've earned this promotion, now just don't give them a reason to demote you.
As for Brignac. Assuming Pat Burrell returns within the next five-to-six days this is simply to give the Rays some flexibility. It adds a left-handed bat, a potential pinch runner, and a middle infield defensive sub to a bench lacking such. No idea whether Brignac will get a start or two while he's up, but a Bartlett/Brignac infield could be fun, and a glimpse of the future.
Enough has been said about Kazmir, the only question is whether Carlos Hernandez, David Price, Mitch Talbot, or someone else makes the start Monday. Theoretically the Rays could use Lance Cormier, but that seems unlikely. I'm cheering for Price, and I suspect most others are too.
Even more from Lancaster, the king of today's reporting:
tborays Percival has gone home to clear mind, ponder future - which could be in doubt
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Right Quad? That's the best one I've seen.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on May 22, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Result of change in mechanics!
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cormier
Unfortunately makes the most sense. I don’t know if the Rays are ready to bring up one of their prized arms. Interesting to see how long Kazmir will be “down” for.
Put Tampa Bay back on our road uniforms!!
by joedobr on May 22, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would doubt it's Lance.
With Sonny and Jeff going this weekend odds are we’ll need Lance for one of those days.
M.V.Z. Most Valuable Zorilla!
by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus it's not like Thayer is used to multi-inning games
Right now JP and Lance are the best suited for that. I would use Thayer the way that Wheeler has been used so far.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of sucks if Thayer is only here for the weekend
I was looking foward to seeing him really get a chance
by Sveet on May 22, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will be interesting to see
If someone tries to get a quote out of Kazmir and attempts to disagree with the diagnosis. If he does, it may be the beginning of the end of his tenure with the club. Let’s see if he can play along.
Put Tampa Bay back on our road uniforms!!
by joedobr on May 22, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kazmir already said the mechanics lead to a pulled quad.
Or at least that’s what Lancaster’s tweet seemed to attribute.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A direct quote or television comments
Would be nice. That was a tweet, so that lacks some context.
Put Tampa Bay back on our road uniforms!!
by joedobr on May 22, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a misquote
Kazmir already said the acoustics lead to a pulled quad. It’s just too echo-y in there.
by PlayOnWords on May 22, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
If this doesn't go green, then the rec system is broke.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Done.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 22, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Obviously its his quad.
He got injured when the crowd just wasn’t into it.
by BrokeBearMountain on May 22, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason I kind of want to see Talbot
by Sveet on May 22, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling whoever it is that they will pitch well Monday
by Sveet on May 22, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why this made me laugh.
by BrokeBearMountain on May 22, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's tough when my two favorite teams have heat.
Bows out gracefully. I was glad when Victor didnt charge the mound for JP throwing high and tight to him. Especially when JP charged off of the mound at him in the Friday game. Secondly I am glade no punches were thrown in what could have been the Sunday melee either.
Victor was the misguided mouth piece for team suffering in a really bad slump he took exception to it because he has been the only bright spot really offensively. The Rays and BJ Upton exposed him defensively.
This hurt his feelings by pointing out that the Indians season right now is shit circling the drain. Victor Martinez is toilet paper clinging to the bowl hoping that he will avoid the flush. It really sucks when two frustrated teams meet. It sucks worse when they happen to be my favorite teams.
by PewterPirate55 on May 22, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that case I'll go throw in Cleveland.
Thanks for the vote of confidence.
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by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gimme Vaughn!!!!
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by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can call that one the Masturbator
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I thought I got to bang Dorn's wife?
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by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Price is on full rest today isnt he?
He just had a off day, could of been called up
Anyway, Hernendez is not on the 40 man and I really doubt it, Davis is prob still gonna be kept in the minors and if Talbot starts tonight, we get our wish
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So who gets moved when Burrell comes back
and we name a SP for Monday?
by Raymondo on May 22, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't know, most likely Brignac back down.
Nobody yet. Either Davis, Talbot, or Price.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the first time I can honestly say that Kazmir going to the DL is a relief.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Although his trade value will be effected.
We just don’t know how yet…
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
It’s at an all-time low. If he comes back strong, it’ll jump back up.
by Suttree on May 22, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he still has name value.
Seeing his name go on the DL definitely isn’t a good thing.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name value aside, no team is going to look at his quotes in the newspaper, his 7+ ERA and negative reports from their scouts
and think Kaz is worth trading for.
by Suttree on May 22, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ideal situation is Kaz comes back effective and helps this team
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by Tommy Rancel on May 22, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right quad injuries are notorious flags when wheeling and dealing
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
Not only does it help the major league team, maybe it means he can resurrect himself with some time of off and a rehab stint.
Hopefully he avoids spending too much time on his other habits.+
by Suttree on May 22, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so Briggy is here til sunday?
then we send him back and ball up price for monday when we’re back in the AL?
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems to make the most sense
we only need an extra hitter through sunday, and monday is kaz’s turn, we’ll need that 5th pitcher. it’s either price of davis…
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could send Thayer down on Monday
and leave Briggy up until Burrell gets back.
Whatever happens it looks like both will only be up temporarily
by Sveet on May 22, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have to sent someone down to bring up a pitcher
when sent a RP down and leave your pen 1 short?
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have 13 pitchers right now.
Usually we only have 12.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Balfour,
Lance Cormier, Matt Garza , J.P. Howell, Jason Isringhausen , Joe Nelson, Jeff Niemann, James Shields, Brian Shouse, Andy Sonnanstine, Dan Wheeler, Thayer
=
12
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
though i only count 12 on the active roster
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I messed up. They did have 13, and now 12.
I just haven’t adjusted.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get it straight :)
we’re back to normal numbers, i don’t see them sending a RP anywhere. briggy is gone monday, Price is coming. mark it.
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right
for some reason I still thought we had 13 too. Forgot Kaz was a pitcher
by Sveet on May 22, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While he is here and when PTB comes back if we can get rid of a Gabe
Can we get a 2B platoon. Briggy against righties and Aki against lefties. Aki can’t hit righties for shit.
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kapler gone, PTB back, Brignac stays would be the best
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wheeler probably, Howell hopefully.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't say that,
don’t ever say that
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would hope but JP
but most likely Wheeler for the same reason Kapler starts against every lefty.
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh.. Direct Quote from the heater... haha
I guess the dorks at draysbay think they saw this coming, too. Glad to see Percy out of here. Hope Kaz can get his act together and Go Rays!
Real Rays fans don’t run to a blog to hang out with other fat dorks, ya here that Sandy Kazmir? Yer boy is gone so you’ll have to sniff another jock for two weeks. ;)
Posted by: Rob | May 22, 2009 at 04:39 PM
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ya hear that Sandy Kazmir? Can you hear me typing?
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see you didn't give up on the season last night
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah.. I was just upset.
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It happens
Hopefully we get all the BS out of the way early and can put it together for a couple of months
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Got Served!
M.V.Z. Most Valuable Zorilla!
by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good job Sandy...
As a daily reader of this site and part-time poster, I think you deserve a pat on the back. You are a Rays fan that can see us through the ENTIRE season. I remember you questioning my ability to sustain my enthusiasm after a win against the BOSOX earlier this year, if we were to lose the next game or two. I am in this all of the way, everyday.. as are you… Have been and always will be, but I love that you are the daily monitor of fairweather fans… We need this and I Love it.
by RalphieTheRay on May 23, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Ralphie that means a lot, I'm glad you didn't take it personal
It’s still May and there’s a lot of baseball to be played. Some may come and go, and that’s cool b/c at the end of the year people know who stuck it out.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoooo Hoooo.....
We are closing ground somehow… Last I checked we are 4.5 games out… Could we expect better after our start and recent Boston & NYY streak?
I’m not too worried about the position we are in considering everyting thats been played out on the field lately and called up from Durham.
by RalphieTheRay on May 23, 2009 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROB MAD AGAIN! ROB SMASH AGAIN!
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhh, he's the head fat dork
probably the fattest dork here.
by mittens on May 22, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says the man named after oven accessories.
What, afraid you’ll burn your little hooves on a fruit pie?
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rdrr
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many times do i have to tell you fat dorks that i'm a hot babe?
furthermore, those are mitts.
by mittens on May 22, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's kinda right.
But the heater is pretty much the mouth breathers anonymous club
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Real fans don't call out other fans on other blogs lol
Pot meet Kettle …. Oh I see you have met before.
/// Rubber glue and all that good stuff.
by PewterPirate55 on May 22, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob is quickly becoming my favorite Heater All-Star
I just hope he doesn’t hit the DL soon either, I mean popping your jaw out so you can fit horsecock in your mouth has to wear on you after a while. I would think.
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Anytime you can squeeze horsecock into a sentence, you're a friend of mine.
by Suttree on May 22, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any time you can reference someone else squeezing horsecock into their mouth into a sentence...
You are a literary genius lol
by PewterPirate55 on May 22, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you don't dance
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 22, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason this is cracking me up
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else seen these
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/photo_galleries/052109_RAYS/
go to pix 14 and 15
by Sveet on May 22, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6 is pretty good too
Those boys are going to get so much pussy when they pull into Miami
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that... kapler on the far left of pic 15?
can he possibly look more like a douche bag?
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Jack's shoes are awesome
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at #9
And tell me with a straight face that Aki is about to go all Bloodsport on someones ass.
M.V.Z. Most Valuable Zorilla!
by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I have this tonight
CF Upton
LF CC
3B Longoria
1B Pena
RF Zobrist
SS Bartlett
2B Brignac
C Hernandez
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, you may not... Per Joe
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
negative
our lineup is out
Upton
Crawford
Longoria
Pena
Bartlett
Gross
Iwamura
Navarro
Sonny
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing he's saving Zobrist on the bench so he can hit a PH HR
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is so great
the guys job on the team is PH HR’s and he actually does it so often
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's uncanny
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O/U AB's for Brignac while he is up at 2
I’m going under
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Kapler will get "injured" like Kaz and Percy
and Brignac will stay so, well over
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope but only in the case of a platoon at 2B.
No point in having Brignac up if he is sitting on the bench.
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES
tboraysFriedman: Percival “extremely frustrated right now”
tboraysPercival has gone home to clear mind, ponder future – which could be in doubt
Swav or Die.
by SRQman on May 22, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Friedman might of just done his best work ever
RETIRE AND LOSE YOUR MONEY
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Percival experiment is over.
Time to invest in a real closer.
by putupyourDUKES on May 22, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kazmir can close..
he wouldn’t have to think about pitch count..
am i right?
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but papelbon
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You fuckers better go to the games now. Andy got Stu to go out on a limb here to eat about 400,000 seats worth of cash
pro-rated of course, but it was for the greater good. Bravo Stu, it’s not easy to realize a bad investment and cut ties
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah i'm done going to game
Swav or Die.
by SRQman on May 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a thought
if either Hernandez or Talbot get called up Monday could Hellickson go to Durham. That would give Durham Hell Boy, Davis, and Price. It could be argued that would be the most talented rotation in the minors.
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hellickson will stay in AA when he comes back from injury
Which should be soon
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on May 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yea, I forgot he was hurt.
How about Rollins, he is due to start Sunday for Montgomery.
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for about 3 days last season
Montgomery had Price – Davis – McGee – Hellickson
that is insane
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do people keep thinking hernandez will get the call?
he’s not on the 40 man, they’re not going to add him.
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perez/Bradford can go on the 60-day DL
easily clearing a spot.
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on May 22, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because its a simple add
Fernando Perez xferred to the 60 day DL. There is your move
www.draysbay.com
by Tommy Rancel on May 22, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would they put hernandez on teh 40
when they’re going to have to protect hellickson next year from rule 5?
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only way they wouldn't put him on waivers when he is done is if he is really good
and in that case I would guess he would go to the pen
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why worry about next years 40 man?
Besides the fact that Percy, Bradford etc wont be on it
www.draysbay.com
by Tommy Rancel on May 22, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because the FO wants to keep Price and Davis in AAA
and adding Perez could easily go on the 60 day DL and putting Hernandez on waivers won’t be a problem when needed.
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that makes sense as far as hernandez to waivers,
but makes no sense if you’re actually trying to win ball games.
by davidsmarch on May 22, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All eyes on Durham this Sunday
If Price misses that start he will be here Monday,
www.draysbay.com
by Tommy Rancel on May 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we may not need to wait that long, lets see what happens tonight with Talbot.
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im pretty sure its Price or Hernandez at this point with a lean toward Price
www.draysbay.com
by Tommy Rancel on May 22, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoever it is does the open Durham spot go to Hellboy when he is healthy?
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'll probably just shuttle Jason Cromer back there
He made some starts for Durham when Houser was hurt to open the year.
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on May 22, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are off sat?
wow, its just 1 day pushed back then
with no sarcasm at all the time is NOW
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Durham plays Saturday
DP pitches
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on May 22, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor lil feller
Percival has gone home to clear mind, ponder future – which could be in doubt
M.V.Z. Most Valuable Zorilla!
by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
late
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, I dont mind seeing it again
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Percival has gone home to clear mind, ponder future – which could be in doubt
M.V.Z. Most Valuable Zorilla!
by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can never have too much of a good thing.
M.V.Z. Most Valuable Zorilla!
by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
late
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I pulled out way early on that one.
M.V.Z. Most Valuable Zorilla!
by SeanDubbs on May 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK Big Ern
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still makes me smile!
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOOO
tboraysRays will call up starter from Durham for Monday – sounds like Price a definite possibility
Swav or Die.
by SRQman on May 22, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heater
Price likely to start Monday, Percival may retire
David Price expected to be called up and start Monday. Also Troy Percival left frustrated over his latest arm problems and it sounds like there is at least a possibility he could retire.
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Price likely to come up and Percy could retire?
fuck, I am dreaming, well it was a nice one
For gods sake, give me this rotation from here on out. 1 James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3, David Price 4. Andy Sonnanstine(i guess I trust him) 5. Wade Davis
by joeybw on May 22, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BEST DAY EVER
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ELIJAH DUKES DAY IS TOMORROW!
Swav or Die.
by SRQman on May 22, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Percy might be done, and Price might be starting.
Stay hungry my friends, this is a good day.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Stay thirsty my friends*
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 22, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, stay hungry.
The Rays are going to have to do something with Percival’s fridge.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next week should be quite interesting
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way this gets better is to somehow steal a win tonight.
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean in cleveland?
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to make sure I brought some extra underwear to the bar.
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have a bad line-up in with sonny on the mound, forgive me for my lack of confidence.
no DH, Aki Vs a righty, gross in right, navi behind the plate = not many runs
by Dbullsfan on May 22, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Sonnanstine hitting.
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on May 22, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Nolasco is a good pitcher.
Hopefully his BABIP and strand rate suck for at least one more start.
by R.J. Anderson on May 22, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In retrospect
you couldn’t have been wronger
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so.
stashing price on my fantasy bench pays off. & i just climbed from 8th place to 1st today. wait till teixeira, hamilton, & beej(i already have justin)start hitting.
see, this to me is the point of fantasy baseball. we never drafted brazelton, & hamilton is still on the 40 man. i win.
by liquidmuse3 on May 22, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR FANTASY TEAM!!!
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when it's raystastic they should
;o)
by liquidmuse3 on May 22, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
teixeira exonerates you from any raystasticness..
Leave me alone, I'm watching monsterjam.
by mrichardkent on May 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, i have a problem with regret.
& i always regretted us taking brazelton with tex right there. see, in the “real world”, tex never wouldve signed, 7 if he did, he wouldve left. fantasy baseball with a purpose!
by liquidmuse3 on May 22, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more like gaytastic
lol am i rite guyz lol
by mittens on May 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOOO
tboraysMaddon on Percival: “I wouldn’t be surprised if he chooses not to come back”
Swav or Die.
by SRQman on May 22, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Percy? No Kaz?
WOOHOO!!
….wow, that’s sad.
2009 Rays Baseball: God Damn It, Guys
by JMB on May 22, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bittersweet
As in biting into a slice of lemon, then following that up with a bottle of SoCo.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
by kericr on May 22, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bullpen
Wheeler is a joke coming out. I saw in person what he does on a regular basis. July 7th, game tied in the top of the 10th, and 2 home runs. The bullpen played way over it’s head last year and now we’re seeing the real thing. Wheeler was really no benefit last year and a you’ll problem this year. As far as starting pitching goes, Kasmir has never even come close to living up to his billing. 12-10 with a team that goes to the World Series is hardly impressive.
by jimbobsebring on May 22, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's Kazmir. With a z, not a s.
And since you’re new, read this:
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/1/26/736782/the-draysbay-stats-guide
Specifically
Pitching
Win/Losses/Saves
Absolutely have zero value. If Scott Kazmir is on the mound, goes five, gives up five runs, and has his team bomb the opposing starter for seven, he’s in line for a win. If James Shields pitches eight, gives up a lone run, and the opposing starter shuts the Rays down, Shields might get charged with a loss. Troy Percival can walk the bases loaded, allow two sac flies, and as long as he kept the lead, get credited with a save. W/L/S do not speak for a players actions, but rather his team actions. Starters on good teams will probably have more wins than starters on poor teams, the same goes for saves.
Kazmir was a league average starting pitcher last year, that has value.
by R.J. Anderson on May 23, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the gang Billy Bob you fucking tard
Sebring is pretty fun if you like jerking off 51 months out of the year
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
err weeks
GD drunkenness
Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.
-Al Lopez
by Sandy Kazmir on May 23, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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