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A Quick Comparison: CC Sabathia Versus David Price

Why Sabathia? Big lefty, blazing fastball and slider, hyped, it works.

Sabathia's last start:

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Price last night:

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Most notable difference in this small sample size comparison:

- Sabathia uses a change-up.

- Sabathia's slider breaks a lot more horizontally, of course it also goes 5-6 MPH slower than Price's too.

- Price's spike curve breaks more vertically than any other pitch recorded. The more I think about it the more it makes sense that Price would feel more comfortable with a curve than change. The latter is a feel pitch, the former requires some innate ability to spin the ball, Price clearly has that ability (see: slider). That's purely conjecture though.

- Sabathia's fastballs have a tighter cluster in movement. Not sure what that means going forward.

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by R.J. Anderson on May 26, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dale thayer's labia sebucula?

awkwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard

by Suttree on May 26, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard not to marvel at that masculine masterpiece.

But as ESPN pointed out, Clay Zavada presents himself as a serious challenger:

"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."

by kericr on May 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this is kind of unrelated

But if Joe really wants JP to be available for the highest leverage situations every night (which I do not disagree with), essentially making it impossible for him to close, than why not give Thayer a shot to close while hes still up? I mean the guy has been a closer his whole career, has “closer stuff”, and is there really another option? It cant get any worse than last night, and I thought Thayer looked solid even though he allowed those 2 runs.
And really, what are the other viable options at this point? I guess Joe is just going to continue with the “by situation and matchup” thing, but if were going to have someone in our bullpen that is called a “closer”, than I would much rather see the ’stache in there than fuckin Izzy.

by BJ the Bossman on May 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont get the hype that everyone like ESPN and MLB is giving Price

He has a great fastball and slider, but he doesnt seem to command them very well. Of course he is better than what he showed last night. I think he will be good, but he is getting more hype than Felix and Sabathia did. I think Kershaw is as good as Price. I will probably get roasted for saying that.

by raysrule44 on May 26, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think you'd get roasted for implying Kershaw and Price are on the same level.

In fact, based on Price’s performance last night, that would be very flattering. Kershaw is absolutely disgusting.

As for the Price hype… 6’5 lefties who throw 97 mph fastballs with an 89 mph slider, plus good mechanics, plus great college and minor league performances… That’s nice.

by Suttree on May 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Kershaw's bendy thing.

Not to mention he throws around 95 and I think is two years younger.

by raysrule44 on May 26, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think everyone has a nasty hard on for Kershaw.

Too bad he’ll blow out his elbow long before Price does.

by Suttree on May 26, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm so sick of the pitch count mentality this club has

It’s ruined Kazmir and will do the same to Price

Do like the Tigers have regarding Verlander and Porcello

by Raymondo on May 26, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tigers philosophy is a pitcher

only has so many bullets, don’t use them up in the minors

by Raymondo on May 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't understand

You’re advocating a strict or not strict pitch count?

by PlayOnWords on May 26, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But The Difference between them:

and then:

We need Robots....The time is now Bud.

by Some other guy who does not care on May 26, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

This

And then:

This

We need Robots....The time is now Bud.

by Some other guy who does not care on May 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

????????????

zuh?

Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw, a side note

i was at Disney this weekend and couldn’t get one Rays or Magic game, at Saratoga Springs where i stayed

by Raymondo on May 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Price has always had command issues

even in college. He can get a little wild inside the strike zone, but 6’6 (he might actually be pushing 6’7) lefties that throw as hard as Price does always take longer to fully develop. He’s going to be really, really good, and age is irrelevant. History is littered with numerous pitchers that took years to fully develop. Hell, Randy Johnson didn’t have everything come fully together for him until he was in his 30s.

Hello.

by killa3312 on May 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: What ever happened to our second rounder from a couple years ago?

Will Kline? Seemed like a cheap pick to save money at the time

by raysrule44 on May 26, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Erm

Arm Injuries :-)

Hello.

by killa3312 on May 26, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll say it again here

Is anyone else worried that he becomes one of those pitchers who rarely gets through the 6th inning because of pitch count. He has seemed to have a lot of trouble keeping his pitch count down this year.

I got a few nos in the other thread, but just wondering why you think that it won’t be a problem for him

Cut Izzy!

by Sveet on May 26, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's unproveable

He’s made one start, and at Durham he was on a 75-pitch limit and working very heavily on developing off-speed stuff. We can say almost nothing conclusive about David Price after this start or any in 2009.

by PlayOnWords on May 26, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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