Are the Tampa Bay Rays Interested in Miguel Angel Sano?
Fun news comes way of our old friend Kiley McDaniel:
The clubs believed to be hot on Sano's trail are the Pirates, Rays, Cubs, A's, Jays, Yankees, Rangers, and Twins. That being said, it appears that Pittsburgh is in the driver's seat and Sano is theirs to lose. There is even talk from reliable sources that the size of Sano's bonus could end up affecting who the Pirates choose with the 4th overall pick in June's amateur draft, widely believed to lack top-end talent beyond projected first pick Stephen Strasburg.
So, who is Sano (pronounced SAH-no)? Well, his full name is Miguel Angel Sano, and he's regarded as the best international prospect available in this year's crop. For now Sano is a shortstop, but at 6'3" and 190 pounds, Sano is a pretty large guy for someone who turned 16 years old just weeks ago. As Kiley notes, while there will be speculation about Sano's age, a DNA bone graft has shown Sano to be within a 12 month range of either 16 or 17. As for asking price, seven figures, and there's a chance he could top Michael Ynoa's 4.25 million bonus. Nonetheless, the Rays are apparently after the titillating young talent. This is the part that catches my eye:
With the probable bonus amount becoming clearer, the field has whittled itself down, but still includes clubs with small Latin America budgets. These clubs are completely aware of where the price is headed, and it's been indicated to me that multiple clubs have ownership approval to go over budget in order to sign Sano
That has "Rays" written all over it, especially if they feel Sano is a special talent, like a Tim Beckham type. We've seen this ownership and management group willing to dig a bit deeper in the pockets when required, and all the Gary Sheffield type comparisons are legitimate, this would be one of those cases. Sano features an amount of raw power the Rays system lacks, and an arm strong enough to play shortstop. With maturing to come, he's almost certainly moving to third base or the corner outfield, although only time will tell for sure which position he lands on.
Of course the downside is that you run the risk of Sano turning into Joel Guzman. How many top bonus babies actually work out? Three of the top five international signing bonuses were handed out last year; Michael Ynoa, Rafael Rodriguez, and Yorman Rodriguez. Prior to last year, the tops were Wily Mo Pena (2.44M in 1999) and the aforementioned Guzman (2.26M in 2001). Not a stellar track record, so it comes down to whether Andrew Friedman and the Rays scouting department sees a future big leaguer in Sano.
This is the ultimate futures market. Sano may not be able to contribute in the majors for five-to-six years after being signed, if not longer. If Sano busts completely, it's ~4-5 million out the door, if he succeeds, well, he won't need to do much in order to be worth the money. Like a top draft pick, if you consider he's being paid x amount of dollars for the rights to sign, and then x amount of dollars in arbitration, you end up paying him that original x amount for three years of cost control and another three years at a reduced cost.
There's certainly a risk involved here, but if the Rays feel it's a risk worth taking, then you have to get excited. The Rays are essentially adding a talent that would go high in any amateur draft on the open market. The positive PR coming from the Dominican in conjunction with all the money poured into Latin America over the past year would certainly place the Rays amongst the big boys in that part of the international game. Remember, the organization built a 5 million dollar complex in the D.R. and followed that up with a 6.5 million dollar commitment in Brazil. This team is widening the borders to find potential talent. Exactly what needs to be done in order to help the lowered draft status
The Rays are on their way to being an international presence. Something incomprehensible just a few years ago.
Note: For more Sano literature, read this piece by ESPN.com
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This is awesome an all, but uh, not exactly as exciting as you made it out to be.
Ass.
by Suttree on May 27, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, right?
RAYS MIGHT SIGN SOMEONE IF THEY AREN’T OUT BID.
FACINATING
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 27, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry that SRQ cockteased you into thinking it was Pedro.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the dumbest thing I have ever read.
I hope the FO doesn’t waste money on this scribe either
by Sylar on May 27, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you said it, not me
16 yo players don’t really make me stand up and cheer
by Raymondo on May 27, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said it was fun news.
That’s it.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why the gag order?
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
by kericr on May 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
'funny how? what the fuck makes me so funny?'
by Raymondo on May 27, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always pictured you as Joe Pesci
Now go home and get your shinebox.
Today, we are all Honkballers.
by RATW on May 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, don't get so defensive.
We still like you, Johnny Comeback.
by Suttree on May 27, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speak for yourself
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 27, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haters wanna hate.
Hatters wanna hat.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times have you touched yourself looking at this

Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 27, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You telling people it's Pedro helped.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I told one person.
Then told him I lied right after.
Swav or Die.
by SRQman on May 27, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOOHOO! C'mon Pirates, fuck this up.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 27, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
KLaw said they might get Borchering and Sano.
I will murder them if they steal both.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Srsly. They already have those Indian guys.
They’re diverse enough. I’m still hoping to snag McClouth at the deadline somehow…
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 27, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That FO is smart nowadays.
Next Rays.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I can see that.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on May 27, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next Rays is Texas fyi
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 27, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texas wasn't picking top 5 last year.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even more impressive
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 27, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've had this argument before.
I don’t consider Texas in the same mold as the Rays. The Pirates playoff hopes have been desolate for far longer.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And continue to be desolate.
NO PITCHING (non-rinku & denish division)
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 27, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Four pitchers with sub-4 FIPs right now.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You keep counting on Paul Maholm and Ian Snell
It’ll work out, I promise
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My HS team did a clinic with Snell
apparently he basically said he gives up trying cause he is on the Pirates.
Swav or Die.
by SRQman on May 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silly Pirates.
Karstens 5.98 FIP
Ohlendorf 5.26 FIP
Hansen 6.00 FIP
Moss .301 wOBA
They should have traded Nady and Bay for Hammel and Jackson. The Tigers are just smarter than everyone else.
(ignores other player/prospects in deal, sample size and process)
Today, we are all Honkballers.
by RATW on May 27, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's pretty embarassing that they gave away Bay for jack shit.
by Suttree on May 27, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The prospects they got from Bay was a better crop than what we offered.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on May 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Craig Hansen and Brandon Moss?
Instead of Jeff Niemann and Reid Brignac?
by Suttree on May 27, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy LaRoche and Bryan Morris don't count?
Tools Whore
by Tyler on May 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(ignores other player/prospects in deal, sample size and process)
haha…isn’t the best prospect in the deal omitted?
by walkoffwalk on May 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I left out LaRoche, Tabata and D. McCutchen
Today, we are all Honkballers.
by RATW on May 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rinku and Dinesh are supposed to suck, tho
by PlayOnWords on May 27, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't say that. DON'T YOU FUCKING SAY THAT
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 27, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they keep mining the Indian talent pool
A superstar will come out of there eventually. As a nation, they’re not known for athletic prowess, but when you have nearly a billion people, there’s got to be some real talent, and it’s not as if they’re not fairly dominant in cricket, which requires a similar skill set as baseball.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a video somewhere on the interwebz.
I watched it last night. He looks studly.
by rglass44 on May 27, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The clubs believed to be hot on Sano’s trail are the Pirates, Rays, Cubs, A’s, Jays, Yankees, Rangers, and Twins.
How are we ever going to outbid the Cubs/Yanks/Rangers?
And serious question, why would a prospect choose to sign with the Rays over a large-market team? The Rays will hold a player back a few weeks just to get an extra year of arbitration out of him (which i am fine with, but i wouldn’t be so fast to sign with the Rays if I were a prospect because of this).
by walkoffwalk on May 27, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most of these players only care about 1 thing: Money
And very very few of them have anything resembling an agent.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
by kericr on May 27, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Bowden needs work.
Today, we are all Honkballers.
by RATW on May 27, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They all have something resembling an agent
Just not in the typical American sense. The guys who run the schools all take a cut and negotiate for them. The more savvy ones have started retaining real agents to help with the negotiations.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 27, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you. I did a shitty job phrasing what you just said.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
by kericr on May 27, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they spend 4.5 mill here, I wonder how that effects their ability to go over-slot in the June draft.
I’d almost prefer taking a gamble on some tough signs from the HS ranks that may require a bit of coaxing to sign. I guess with the draft being arm-heavy that hope may be tempered some. The issue of 4.5 mill now for a possible future payoff in 5 years seems a little unsettling. I am all for pillaging the foreign talent, but I wonder which route has a higher likely payoff: 1 biggie or a 5 smaller prospects.
by rglass44 on May 27, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the draft and international budgets are one in the same.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think they have much of an effect on the other?
by rglass44 on May 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly? I don't know.
This doesn’t seem like robbing Peter to pay Paul, I think the budgets are structured separately and drawn from different allocation pools. So 4-5 million on July 2nd won’t mean -4/5 million in drafting/signing.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
robbing Peter to pay Paul,
Almost put the exact phrase.
Anyways, I obviously would love to sign the kid, and since all the age stuff should check out he seems great. I just wonder what would provide the most LT benefit.
On a side note, w/o a top 5 pick in the June draft, we’ll have a lot less money tied to the first round. this could mean more spending in the rest of the draft. YAY!
by rglass44 on May 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure it's not "Sano or nothing" it's more like "Sano or two-three lower tier prospects"
So either way, I’m guessing we’re spending at least 7 digits on the international market.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which we will hopefully do every year.
by rglass44 on May 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as the talent class permits.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They probably spent close to $1M last year even
4 guys with bonuses over $100k, plus about 20 other signings.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 27, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it means they don't go way over slot
But there isn’t going to be anyone worth spending huge money on that might fall to #30 anyway. There isn’t a Luke Hochevar in this draft.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 27, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
This year is definitely the year to borrow from the June draft to sign some international talent.
by rglass44 on May 27, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I’d be willing to bet that the success rate with international signings over $1M is greater than the success rate with late draft choices with over-slot bonuses over $1M. More often than not, the guys who fall hard have some big question marks that go with their big contract demands (see: Andrew Brackman, Matt Harrington, etc.)
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this news
Interesting that they’re using bone grafts now to prove age.
As for the bonus baby issue, it worked out just fine for the teams that actually signed Guzman and Pena, as they were able to flip those players for actual talent once the teams saw they didn’t have proper motivation.
Also, dig a little deeper into that list, and you get guys like Miguel Cabrera and Alexis Rios and current top prospects Angel Villalona and Jesus Montero, so it’s not like most of these guys end up being busts. For the most part, teams have been able to recoup their value, and occasionally you get a star, much like out of the draft. The only country I’d be weary about is Cuba, as those guys seem to have lower reward overall.
With MLB trying to clean up the international signing process, expect foreign signing bonuses to get much bigger as the players pick up more sophisticated agents rather than local scam artists.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 27, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently the bone grafts are common place in the DR now.
Just about every player has one done. Which I had no idea about. I guess that solves the issues though.
by R.J. Anderson on May 27, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this so very much.
TOOLS!
Tools Whore
by Tyler on May 27, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You'ze a ho

Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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