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The Hot Hand

Let's talk about it because lots of people are throwing it around relative to Michel Hernandez as a reason that he should be in the lineup more often. It sounds logical. If a player is hitting everything like he's Barry Bonds, you want him in the lineup as often as possible. The problem is, hot (and cold) streaks hold as much predictive value as the player's eye color.  

If you haven't purchased your copy of The Book yet, please do so. The publication is a brilliant collection of analyses on a range of subjects that we discuss often; bullpen usage, lineup ordering, platoon advantages, etc. and most relevantly, hot streaks.  Tom Tango and company found the hottest and coldest hitters (on five and seven game streaks) in 2003 and compared their wOBAs after the streak to their expected wOBA based on the previous three years of data.

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Essentially, they found hitters who hit better than projected for five and/or seven games at a time and compared what they did post-streak to what we expected prior to the hot/cold streak.  The 10 hottest hitters flashed a combined .712 wOBA during the seven-game hot streaks, but in the three games after hit .341, below their expected .370 mark. The 10 coldest hitters had a pitiful .076 wOBA through seven games, then turned around and replicated their expected .324 during the next three games.

Entering Sunday's game, Hernandez had a .454 wOBA, CHONE had him pegged for a .300 wOBA and ZiPS said .280. Hernandez wOBAs in the minors the last three years are .307/.326/.312, all in Triple-A. Average those out, assume for park, assume for an increase in competition, and so on, and it's going to tell you one thing; Michel Hernandez is the worst hitter on the team.

Yeah, but we should play Hernandez until the hot streak runs out.

Yeah, but we shouldn't. Forget about those four games and evaluate Hernandez as a hitter. Odds are you would say he's bad, right? Okay, would you want that in your lineup every day? Of course you wouldn't. Plus The Book already showed us that the game after a five-game hot streak batters hit about 0.006 wOBA points better than expected on average. That's a marginal difference for anyone, but for an already awful hitter it makes about no difference.

So if we know that Hernandez is not a good hitter and that hitting streaks are relatively meaningless, that tells us that we shouldn't alter our lineup one bit for him.

Sometimes there's more than just some random variation and fluctuation going on, but the odds of Hernandez and his .450+ BABIP being legitimate are about as good as me sprouting wings and flying off to Atlantis (Yes, I realize Atlantis is underwater.)

[Do note: this really has nothing to do with Dioner Navarro. In fact, I didn't mention him. Let's try and keep the comments away from Navarro and focus on streaks and Hernandez. We've all had the Navarro debate and there's nothing new to discuss anyways.]

 

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I'm not saying that the Rays should play him till his hot streak runs out.

I’m saying the Rays need to play him more regularly until Navarro comes out of his funk; or put Riggans in there when he comes back. And by ‘regularly’, I don’t mean every day either, but even with Hernandez being crappy, he’s still better then what we’ve seen out of the first month of Navarro.

"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."

by kericr on May 3, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Moar Jaso

www.raysprospects.com

by Imperialism32 on May 3, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BUT STEALS!!!

I could be wrong though

by staplemaniac on May 3, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So we shouldn't play the guy on a hot streak

because he’s going to cool off to average in a week? We should instead play the guy in a slump because he’s going to warm up to average in a week? Did I misunderstand your argument? If I didn’t, this is not very convincing.

by nomoredevil on May 3, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure, but how do you know when the streak ends?

Without hindsight, do you really want to wait for an 0 for 20 stretch to prove that Hernandez really is a crappy hitter?

by antimatter on May 3, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This post wasn't about Navarro at all. I'm thinking about a Navarro/Jaso post in the next few days though.

Hence why I included this:

[Do note: this really has nothing to do with Dioner Navarro. In fact, I didn’t mention him. Let’s try and keep the comments away from Navarro and focus on streaks and Hernandez. We’ve all had the Navarro debate and there’s nothing new to discuss anyways.]

by R.J. Anderson on May 3, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did read that RJ

but since i’ve bee gone and Navarro’s problems have worsened, it’s difficult to ignore his name and speak strictly of Hernandez

But here’s a vote to keep banging Michel

by Raymondo on May 3, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be clear, my initial comment wasn't about Navarro/Hernandez

This would be quite a stretch to call Hernandez “hot” after one good game. My comment was more general. I don’t quite understand the logic of what you’re driving at.

by nomoredevil on May 3, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What point are you missing?

There’s no way of knowing how long hot/cold streaks will last. That’s why you try and ignore them unless there’s a suggestion of sustainable skill behind them.

by R.J. Anderson on May 3, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defense

It certainly looks to me like Hernandez is a superior defensive catcher to Navarro. In the long run, he is a worse hitter. Difficult to say how much worse he is than Navarro, but I’m willing to say that the better defense nearly makes up for the decrease in offense. UZR isn’t very useful for catchers yet, so I guess there is no way to objectively figure this out.

I would say a 50/50 playing split until riggans comes back would be nice.

by RaysTheRoof on May 3, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly what hot streak are we talking about?

Hernandez has been in 5 games so far. In two of them he got 1 single each. In one he got 4 hits including the double and home run and in the other 2 he went 0 fer. He has yet to walk. And the Rays lost the first 3 games he caught. In one of them Rays pitchers gave up 12 runs, 7 by Garza in 5.2 innings with 5 BBs. In another Garza gave up 4 runs in 5.2 innings with 4 BBs throwing 107 pitches. We are not talking about either a hot streak or a pitcher who has demonstrated he has some special ability to work with pitchers; we are talking about a one game aberration, like the time Tomas Perez went 5-5 and some fans wanted him to become the regular shortstop or third baseman.

by bobr on May 3, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not really a hot streak, you're right.

It’s a small sample size inflated by one big game.

by R.J. Anderson on May 3, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess the point is that Navi on the bench for any other catching option looks good

to some people right now. I disagree, but understand the thinking that it would be good to let Navi have a few days to get his legs back or head together or whatever is the problem.

by Doyouseeit? on May 4, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screw the hitting...

I’ve been enjoying watching Hernandez catch behind the plate. He’s been moving and blocking pitches rather than lazily reaching for them like Navi. Navi looks very lazy behind the dish this year compared to last year.

by Jason Collette on May 3, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Easier to move more when you catch once a week...

All it takes is to stay in the catchers’ crouch the same amount of time as a catcher for four consecutive days and see how much dancing you do on the weekend.

by Doyouseeit? on May 3, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've read this book

Good stuff. The general point of it is: trust talent. To borrow a term from soccer which I find to also be exceedingly applicable to baseball – form is temporary, class is permanent. I believe this, which is why I find it harder and harder to watch the Rays with anyone else I know right now.

by PlayOnWords on May 4, 2009 5:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This site trusts good process

Navi’s process right now isn’t good. He’s not putting the necessary energy and concentration into his position. If Navi’s processes were good, but the results would be bad, then like the chart says: Bad Luck. But no. This is bad process and bad results. He needs to sit. Whether it’s because he’s tired, distracted, or someone put a roofie in his Slimfast, he needs to work out the kinks. He’s had a chance to do that while in the lineup, and it hasn’t worked for him.

I’m not saying he needs to get shipped to Durham, but maybe a DL stint with a rehab assignment when Riggs gets back is in order. No one will deny this is not a healthy Navi.

by ReasonableDoubt on May 4, 2009 7:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hernandez sucks

Simple as that. The Rays have been lucky to get the Hernandez that has been fairly decent. Over the course of the season he would easily be the worst starting catcher in MLB. The problem is we don’t have many options. No matter how we slice it we are going to be bad in the catcher spot.

All we can do is hope they call good games and put the effort behind the plate. Offensively we just won’t be in good shape no matter what. Thankfully we have very good hitters elsewhere in the line up.

by matthan on May 4, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The main problem with evaluating catchers is the one real intangible within MLB

And that is how a catcher calls/catches a game and otherwise works with the pitchers. It is impossible to truly quantify due to the variables and the sample sizes. i have no idea how large an impact this would have on the game or if it is significant at all. However I could theoretically see how it could be large enough to wipe out the offensive differences among catchers. As in the ability to call a game has a wider variation among catchers than their ability to hit.

by matthan on May 4, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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