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Longoria and Pena off to a Blazing Start

The title isn't very good, but titles are for suckers.  I wanted to compare the start these two are off to compared to other guys that ended up putting up great seasons.  Using Baseball-Reference I did a search of all the players that ever had a season in which they put up 45+ Homers, 40+ Doubles, and 120+ RBI.  This list netted 10 guys that have done it.  You can see them below.

Player HR 2B RBI Year G PA AB R H 3B BB IBB SO HBP GDP  BA   OBP   SLG   OPS 
Ruth 59 44 171 1921 152 693 540 177 204 16 145 0 81 4 0    0.378    0.512    0.846    1.358
Belle 50 52 126 1995 143 629 546 121 173 1 73 5 80 6 24    0.317    0.401    0.690    1.091
Helton 49 54 146 2001 159 696 587 132 197 2 98 15 104 5 14    0.336    0.432    0.685    1.117
Belle 49 48 152 1998 163 706 609 113 200 2 81 10 84 1 17    0.328    0.399    0.655    1.054
Walker 49 46 130 1997 153 664 568 143 208 4 78 14 90 14 15    0.366    0.452    0.720    1.172
Gehrig 49 40 165 1934 154 690 579 128 210 6 109 0 31 2 0    0.363    0.465    0.706    1.171
Ortiz 47 40 148 2005 159 713 601 119 180 1 102 9 124 1 13    0.300    0.397    0.604    1.001
Gehrig 47 52 175 1927 155 717 584 149 218 18 109 0 84 3 0    0.373    0.474    0.765    1.239
Pujols 46 51 123 2004 154 692 592 133 196 2 84 12 52 7 21    0.331    0.415    0.657    1.072
Gonzalez 45 50 157 1998 154 669 606 110 193 2 46 9 126 6 20    0.318    0.366    0.630    0.996

Star-divide

My next step was to go in and look at how they performed in their first 28 games for that season.  I used 28 because that is where Carlos is at and Evan is only one shy.  This is not meant to be predictive or to show causality, but merely a comparison of a few of the best season's ever performed to a couple of guys off to a great start.  Note I could not find gamelogs for Ruth's or Gehrig's seasons. 


Year Tm G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF ROE GDP SB CS  BA   OBP   SLG   OPS 
Evan Longoria 2009 TBR 27 120 109 21 39 14 0 8 35 9 0 26 1 0 1 1 6 2 0    0.358    0.408    0.706    1.115
Carlos Pena 2009 TBR 28 123 105 18 28 5 1 12 29 17 1 35 1 0 0 0 1 0 1    0.267    0.374    0.676    1.050
Albert Belle 1995 CLE 28 127 115 22 33 12 0 5 19 12 0 15 0 0 0 1 7 2 0    0.287    0.354    0.522    0.876
Todd Helton 2001 COL 28 124 100 29 31 5 0 9 27 22 4 19 1 0 1 2 2 1 2    0.310    0.435    0.630    1.065
Albert Belle 1998 CHW 28 120 98 13 24 9 0 5 17 18 1 20 0 0 4 0 3 1 2    0.245    0.350    0.490    0.840
Larry Walker 1997 COL 28 128 111 33 46 8 1 11 33 15 3 17 2 0 0 0 3 10 2    0.414    0.492    0.802    1.294
David Ortiz 2005 BOS 28 119 109 15 28 8 0 7 19 9 1 21 0 0 1 1 1 0 0    0.257    0.311    0.523    0.834
Albert Pujols  2004 STL 28 129 107 26 29 9 0 8 18 20 6 6 1 0 1 3 6 0 3    0.271    0.388    0.579    0.967
Juan Gonzalez  1998 TEX 28 127 119 22 40 10 0 7 36 4 0 26 0 0 4 1 5 1 0    0.336    0.346    0.597    0.943

 

Evan trumps all these guys in doubles as well as having the second most RBI and OPS.  Pena leads in dingers as well as K's.  If these two can keep it up we won't just be talking about them this year, but for the rest of humankind.

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23 have ended with Longo's slash or better, 60 have ended with Pena's slash or better

I’m going to work on the guys that there are gamelogs for to see what their start looked like. I’ll post a link when/if I get done.

Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.

-Al Lopez

by Sandy Kazmir on May 7, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about starts though?

They’ve had great starts…but it doesn’t seem to be all too rare. There are great starts every year that fizzle out.

by matthan on May 7, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt, but I'm limited as far as data mining so I have to look at it the best way that I can.

If we put our heads together we might be able to find a better resource, especially because of the 23 that matched Long0’s slash only 9 of them are from post-1940’s which means no gamelogs, plus 3 of them are from this year (longo, Youk, Pujols). It’s not even worth posting. I’m going to try to take a look at the leaders after 30 games for the last 10 games or so if I can find that.

Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.

-Al Lopez

by Sandy Kazmir on May 7, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

One example that springs to mind is Nate McLouth last year

I know this happens every year, but do you see either of Longo, Youk, or Pujols falling off a cliff? It is more likely they return to career norms, which will still lead to an overall elevated end of year line.

Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.

-Al Lopez

by Sandy Kazmir on May 7, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm stumped and don't feel like putting anymore time into this

My aim was to show some of the company these men are keeping not to assume they will do this all year. Sorry to disappoint you Matthan I know you’re one of my biggest fans.

Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.

-Al Lopez

by Sandy Kazmir on May 7, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Formatting

The slash stats seem to be cut off on the end of the charts, just FYI.

by sstamour on May 7, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for pointing that out SS

Make sure you have it on the wide setting. All I was missing was the OPS column which is pretty easy to figure out.

Do what you love to do and give it your very best. Whether it's business or baseball, or the theater, or any field. If you don't love what you're doing and you can't give it your best, get out of it. Life is too short. You'll be an old man before you know it.

-Al Lopez

by Sandy Kazmir on May 10, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

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