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Reflecting on Day Two of the Rays Draft and Prepping For Day Three

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Still not thrilled with the first rounder

But I like where they’ve gone since then. If they can get a big chunk of these guys signed, then I probably like this draft better than any of the ones since Stu and co. really took things over.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I just think as our 2nd and 4th rounders as our 1st rounder

but LeVon will be fun to watch

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why aren't you thrilled with Levon?

I’m not saying I am, but I would just like to get your perspective of why you don’t think it was a good pick.

Free Ray Durham!

by Sveet on Jun 11, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just seems to have an extremely low chance of making an impact

considering the type of player he is and the type of tools he has. A slap-hitting LF isn’t my idea of an ideal 1st round pick.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your right the scouting reports don't paint a great picture

pretty much say he can hit and run, but doesn’t have much power, is not a great defender by any means, and his arm is terrible. That doesn’t sound like a 1st rd pick.

But they still had him ranked high so they must see something.

It’s funny because your read the reports on our rd 2-4 guys and they sound better.

Free Ray Durham!

by Sveet on Jun 11, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

His arm isn't great right now.

Callis speculated he may need another surgery, but also said his arm will be fine for center.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 11, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the context though...

Callis’s statement was more along the lines of “well, if people can run Johnny Damon and Coco Crisp out in center, then there’s no reason you can’t run this guy out there.” I don’t think this team would let someone with Johnny Damon’s arm play center.

It’s true that he may just need another surgery though. I read somewhere that at one point he was throwing 90 off the mound, and if he can get that back, he has more than enough arm for center. The fact that scouts recently have said that his arm is ‘less than 20’ means that SOMETHING needs to happen for his arm to get back to where he’s even passable in center. Whether that means more surgery or just better rehab, I don’t know.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read the 90 MPH thing too.

Which raised all types of question marks when people said his arm wasn’t very good.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 11, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have we drafted

a guy who can throw 95mph yet? Its becoming hard to come by hard throwing rightys/lefty

We need Robots....The time is now Bud, Stern, and Goodell.
Seriously, Officiating Sucks in this Country

by 4QB on Jun 11, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The coach from UT said Koronis throws low to mid 90's

Also, I would imagine some of the hs pitchers drafted in the top 10 rounds have projectable frames in which they could reach mid 90’s. A lot of the guys that throw in the mid 90’s in the Bigs, werent throwing that hard out of hs.

by td32 on Jun 11, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the better prep catchers from Florida.

Kiley loved him the first time he saw him:


. Austin Maddox, C
School & Hometown: Eagle’s View Academy; Jacksonville, FL
Specs: 6′4, 220, Bats R, Throws R
Skinny: Elite catching prospect showcases a plus-plus arm behind the plate and massive power with the stick belied by a durable frame and advanced hitting and receiving skills. Covered in depth in the top 5 breakdown. Florida commit.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 11, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given the reports, we're throwing money to everyone we like.

Looks like we’re more than serious about keeping the system stacked.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 11, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This makes sense though

I’m sure Stu understands that this is the only way to keep the ML payroll low if we continue to field a .+500 ballclub over the next half a decade.

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, not the only way

But there are only so many players (e.g. Hot Carl) that we can trade at a any given time that would return at least 1 high end prospect.

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we can sign him

but do the Rays have to steal all my gator commits

Free Ray Durham!

by Sveet on Jun 11, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boo hoo!

As a South Carolina alum anything that keeps Florida manageable is a plus.

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're a cock

ha ha

Swav or Die
For the lulz

by SRQman on Jun 11, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

why yes, yes I am

We had 2 magical Outback Bowl appearances at the beginning of the decade! I grew up rooting for UF but now utterly despise that school due to the virtually limitless painful memories related to their athletic program.

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

UF is fucking terrible.

Aside from the somewhat okay music scene, Gainesville is the worst place on the planet. The girls are terribly overrated, as well.

by Suttree on Jun 11, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

With a pick that late, it's probably more of a flyer than anything

If he dropped that far, it’s because he says he wants more than $1M (at least) to get out of his commitment. Maybe they luck out and get him to sign for second round money, but I doubt he signs. There are 3 or 4 other guys we picked who also fall into the same general category. Plus, if there’s one type of player not to throw big money at, it’s high school catchers.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who was that Royal stud pitcher they got to sign?

I wouldnt give up on him

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he was a 3rd rounder

Big difference

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

still

It was thought that he wouldnt sign unless he was a early 1st rounder

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They paid him early first round money

And this kid isn’t worth early first round money.

Anyway, BA says it’s a lock he’ll go to college.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see anything saying we took Maddox, actually

Drafttracker doesn’t list him.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does for me

1129 overall, 37th round

www.raysprospects.com

by Imperialism32 on Jun 11, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never mind

Now he showed up

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan McCarney

I wonder if he’s related to Michael McCarney, who we took a few years back.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Three college seniors drafted today already...

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm fine with that late in the draft.

2007 we were taking them in the Top 10 rounds.

Tools Whore

by Tyler on Jun 11, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another flyer

James Pazos, LHP from Arizona. Here’s what ESPN had to say about him after a showcase last year:

James Pazos: Like the aforementioned Seth Mejias-Brean, Pazos is also the high school quarterback for his Highland high school and this summer he is going to be attending passing leagues and playing baseball in an event filled summer. This southpaw has an unorthodox delivery with an extremely high like, ala Dontrelle Wills, and touches 88-90 with his fastball. He has a very deceptive change up that he sets up well off of the heater which sits around 77 MPH. With a thick frame and a deceptive delivery, Pazos looks to be a high ceiling prep star with a bright feature.
  1. prospect in Arizona, committed to Arizona State.

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

That meant to say

Number 3 prospect in Arizona. For whatever reason, it autoformatted funny.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it time to prob waste a pick and take Evan Crawford yet?

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

45 rounds in the book

the signing(and unsigning) is gonna be fun.

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Another interesting one we won't sign

Kalani Brackenridge will be playing cornerback for the Rainbows football team and shortstop for the Rainbows baseball team.

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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder

If the Nats wind up not signing Strasburgh, they will prob get the first 2 picks in next years draft.

Has that ever happened?

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

No...

The rule was just implemented two years ago.

I’d be shocked if he didn’t sign. I don’t think he has the leverage to bully the Nat’s around and can’t imagine him missing out on the payday.

by tallyray on Jun 11, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont underestimate the stupidty of the Nationals

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giants are on my last nerve

I see they had taken Evan Crawford, same prick team that took Tommy Joseph

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Round 50

I wonder who we end the draft with

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

The draft is over

Anyone know how many of each position we took?

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah.

3 C
2 1B
2 2B
4 3B
5 SS
8 OF
16 RHP
10 LHP

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 11, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

very nice

thats well balanced

I remember last year we took 0 3B, Evan must of been honored

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 11, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We look a bunch of 2Bs though

And converted some of them to 3B

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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Jun 11, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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