Report: Tampa Bay Rays Interested In Pedro Martinez; Workout Held In D.R.
Update:
And maybe this is nothing. Apparently Pedro was doing a bullpen session and a Rays employee, who happens to be a friend of Pedro, was there. Maybe it means something, maybe it means nothing. We have however confirmed that a Rays employee was there.
Oh, and rotation spots are going to be hard to come by. Kazmir is throwing a simulated game tomorrow before heading to Port Charlotte hopefully next week.
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According to reports out of the Domincan Republic, the Rays have worked out Pedro Martinez and have another workout scheduled. According to one report Pedro Martinez could be in uniform by this weekend. This is obvious a bit of a shock to the system and raises a few questions. One would assume he would be a starter so who would he replace? Sonnanstine? How much will he cost?
From the mid ninties up until 2005, Martinez was one of if not the games best pitcher. In a five year span (1999-2003) he had an average FIP of 1.92. However, in recent years we've seen an off injured and less effective Martinez. In 2008 he posted a career low 7.18 K/9 along with a career worst 1.98 K/BB. He gave up 19 home runs in just 109 innings and his 5.18 FIP was in line with his 5.61 ERA. Stuff wise he was throwing around 88 mph and still used his change up 20% of the time.
This offseason Martinez went unsigned after asking for a reported $5 million dollar salary with reports of upward of $7 million. Obviously in a depressed market all teams passed on the 37 year old. One would assume for the Rays to get involved that price tag has come down even after you pro-rate it over the final two-thirds of the season. We don't know how effective Martinez would be, but obviously the Rays wouldn't make a move unless they felt Martinez was an upgrade over someone on the current pitching staff and still has the ability to get major league hitters out.
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"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Here’s an idea, ask Pedro Martinez to be a reliever
I’m sure he can pick up a couple of ticks on his pitches if he knows he’s only going to be expected to throw 15-30 every 2 or three days.
That would make his change all that more effective
I think he'd be an exceptional reliever
Location was never an issue with Pedro, just injuries. If he ends up a starter, he’s probably taking Sonny’s spot, which I wouldn’t particuarly like since we already have JP Howell in the bullpen. Now if they go and DL Sonny and try to get him to get his command back…eh.
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Yah, this!
Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
His command has been there...
Sonny won’t be going anywhere unless he’s traded…
His command hasn't been there. Command and control are different.
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Everytime someone has a bad start
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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 11, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This might sound dumb...
…but is there any chance they’re signing him to be a reliever?
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by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
well, not signing, but considering?
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by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Just speculating
But I think Martinez would only come back as a starter. Just looking at the stance of some other veteran starters.
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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 11, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not fond of him as a starter, he breaks down too much.
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We'd only need 20 to 25 starts from here on out
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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 11, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If we're not going to make the playoffs, why spend the money at all on him?
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
If that's the case something else has to be cooking
Trading Kaz? Doesn’t make sense, lowered return.
Replacing Andy? Why not with Talbot or Carlos Hernandez, who’d project to have a lower FIP than Pedro.
Replacing Jeffy? Niemann seems to have at least pitched well enough to stick around for another month.
Our biggest hole is an unreliable bullpen, and if we can sign a guy with proven pinpoint control than that addresses a major weakness. There’s not telling if Pedro could consistently dial his fastball to 90, but if he could that’s a win-win kind of deal.
Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention the concept of signing Pedro as a reliever is the kind of out of the box thinking that our front office exercises
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by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
For reference: Pedro's fastball speed
2005: 88
2008: 87.7
How much speed on average does a pitcher gain by relieving? 2 mph? JP gained 3.7.
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by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions
I got lots of things buzzing through my head over this
Also I don’t want to work on some papers…
…do you think we’re going to get a Troy retirement announcement in the next couple days? That would free up the salary to sign Pedro.
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by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
When Pedro's name is mentioned
I cannot think rationally any more. He was the greatest pitcher I ever saw when he was at his peak. He had the command and smarts of Maddux combined with the power of Clemens and Randy Johnson and a wider repertoire than any of them. I saw him enter the deciding playoff game against Cleveland as a reliever and no-hit them without ever hitting 90 on the gun. Brilliant. I was in Shea when he pitched without a real fastball any more yet he totally flummoxed the opposition with pinpoint control and speed changes.
Should we try to sign him-for any role? I can’t think straight when I consider that I could be in the stadium when he pitches.
And we finally found the player Bob has a mancrush on.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 11, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey bob
I know for a fact that Pedro has a weakness for gold-diggers who hang around the Vinoy whenever teams are in town. Maybe my friend who used to work there can tell you more.
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by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 11, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Good choice.
I’d love to go back in time and watch the 1997 Expos: 25-year-old Cy Young Pedro Martinez and 22-year-old rookie Vladimir Guerrero.
My two all-time favorites to ever see in person (with apologies to Martinez brawl victims Gerald Williams and Don Zimmer).
baseball is played on a calculator in your grandmother's basement, not on the field
The Gerald Williams brawl is testament to how awesome Pedro was.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 11, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
What was Gerald Williams thinking?
This is a guy who was in three bench-clearing brawls as a 22-year-old in 1994.
Montreal P Pedro Martinez’s bid for a perfect game‚ in only his 5th major league start‚ goes down the tubes as he hits Reds OF Reggie Sanders on an 0-2 count with 1 out in the 8th inning. Sanders apparently thinks that Martinez did it deliberately and charges the mound‚ setting off a bench-clearing brawl. When order is restored‚ Martinez loses his no-hitter when Brian Dorsett singles to lead off the 9th.
At his peak, he may very well be the best anyone saw.
He was absolutely amazing.
Tools Whore
i think he still has something left in the tank
at least better than Sonny
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Who would we rather have Schilling or Martinez?
I vote for Pedro
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I love Pedro.
So glad he and Man-Ram aren’t on the Sox anymore because now I can really cheer against that team.

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