Free Winston Abreu
Just so everyone knows, Winston Abreu's FIP is down to 1.55 and he's struck out 47 of 114 batters faced. 41% strikeouts. Daniel Bard and David Robertson both had slightly more in less games and both are now in the majors. Robertson has a 2.26 FIP and Bard has a 2.08 FIP. I cringe to think what Abreu could be doing for our pen right now. Free Winston. Please.
I'm not the biggest fan of Dan Wheeler. Every time he came up during late last year and the off-season I warned about his eventual BABIP regression, and, well I'm not too surprised by the .285 figure. Still, he's not quite this poor. Wheeler's strikeout and walk rates are identical to last season, but his homerun/fly ball percentage is up to 13.3. Wheeler's previous career high came when he split a season between the Mets and Astros way back in 2004. Eventually the homeruns should calm down a bit, once they do his FIP will get below 5.
I'd much prefer Grant Balfour in high leverage situations to Wheeler. Balfour's velocity readings are weird though:
2003 93.8
2004 93.7
2007 93.2
2008 94.6
2009 92.9
I don't know why he threw harder than before last year, and I don't know why he's throwing less hard this year. Whatever the reason, it's made his fastball far less effective. Last year Balfour's fastball had an outstanding run value per 100 pitches of 2.53. This year the pitch is ineffective at -0.10 per 100. The pitch is still breaking just about the same, so this seems to be either a luck thing or a velocity thing. Either way, it's pretty clear Joe Maddon doesn't have the same confidence in Balfour that he did last year; his average leverage index upon entering is 0.81, last year it was 1.26.
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Abreu - IN; Pedro - IN; Thayer - IN
So long, Sweet Lime!
by PlayOnWords on Jun 12, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chadford - IN
So long, Sweet Lime!
by PlayOnWords on Jun 12, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 guys in
Which 4 out?
Izzy, Wheeler, I am guessing you want Nelson gone but hes been good lately and whos the 4th?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
by joeybw on Jun 12, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully...
Chadford up, Wheeler traded for prospects.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Jun 12, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually fine with Nel
I’d get rid of that bum Howell
So long, Sweet Lime!
by PlayOnWords on Jun 12, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sarcasm, I sure as hell hope
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
by joeybw on Jun 12, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Wheeler, it's not the BABIP that is a problem. it's the Balls out of play and out of the stadium that are a problem.
by walkoffwalk on Jun 12, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not the dress that makes you look fat. It's the fat that makes you look fat.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Jun 12, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to think of Balfour
spending his weekends pummeling some dude for leaving his car parked in the street in his neighborhood half-way on his grass while wearing a “Saucy Aussie” bar-b-que apron and holding a boa constrictor that is on fire.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Jun 12, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we trade for Abreu?
Where did he come from again?
I don’t remeber him in A or AA at all.
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by davelrogers on Jun 12, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow thats a striking similarity
Kinda like Gaylord Focker and Jorge in Meet the Fockers
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by FreeZorilla on Jun 12, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you see Abreu in '09
as different from Abreu in ‘07 – his prior US season split between AAA and majors? What do you think you can really expect from the guy? Not saying he hasn’t earned another shot, but is he supposed to suddenly do what he didn’t in ’06 (small majors sample) or ’07, when his AAA performances were excellent as well? Last year in Japan makes him a changed man? Performance against replacement level players and worse is suddenly projectable? Just curious.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jun 12, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's always been good in Triple-A.
He’s never gotten a real shot in the majors.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 12, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don't count his 2 years in the PCL
vs his 3 in the International.
That he’s 32 and hasn’t gotten a shot says about as much as anything.
I think he’s earned one, however, and if he should succeed, good for him and the Rays. But his coming means someone goes, and “Wheeler for prospects” pipe dreams aside, there’s not much to suggest he’ll outperform what might come from what’s already there.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jun 12, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Career 11 K/9 4 BB/9 in Triple-A
That’s worthy of giving a shot to.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on giving him a shot
the question is over who, and will he be better.
And with Bradford in rehab, then what?
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jun 12, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the answer is pretty clearly Izzy, who's old, not particularly effective, not particularly expensive, and has entitlement issues.
by Suttree on Jun 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd probably agree
but if Abreu takes Izzy’s spot, who’s does Bradford take?
I’d wait to replace Izzy with Bradford, hoping the former builds some trade value, who because of his low cost might bring more than Wheeler in trade. Then let Abreu (or Thayer) take over for the next lowest on the totem pole, or should another injury crop up, if the need remains. Abreu also requires a roster move, though there’s an open spot I think.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jun 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may be grasping at straws,
but I think the announcers said that Wheeler has been working on a splitter. I don’t recall him throwing one before, but am not sure if he did or not. In any case, he threw two the other day and they were beauties, really diving down at the plate.
Is it possible that the pitch can revive his effectiveness?
As for Abreu, he looks good of course, and his brief major league trials are not enough to declare him an AAAA pitcher, but I would still be cautious about overhyping him. He has generally been good in the high minors striking out people at a good to outstanding rate, but he has had seasons with pretty high walk totals and some horrid home run rates. He may have earned a call-up but to expect a Balfour-like success is probably wishful thinking.
by bobr on Jun 12, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even if Abreu doesn't work out, it's probably a better shot than Izzy.
Same with Thayer, though I really think Thayer can be effective.
by Suttree on Jun 12, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If 5 season in AAA,
1 in Japan, and 2 short majors stints deosn’t define “AAAA”, what does?
I also agree he deserves a shot, but at the cost of who, and is it reasonable to expect better from him?
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jun 12, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 seasons in AAA defines AAA
We’re arguing semantics, but I hate the term AAAA. Nevermind, not important.
Abreu has maintained a decent BB/9 since 2006 (decent as in similar to Balfour in the minors and last year). His performance warrants more than 38 innings before permanently dismissing him from major league consideration.
Meanwhile speaking of Balfour, SSS, but so far this season, Balfour’s K/9 is below 10 for the first time since…. 2004, just before he went on the DL for 1.5 years. Probably meaningless, but worth a mention.
Now, off to Omaha.
by RATW on Jun 12, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why the dismissal of Isringhausen?
In his 8 appearances he has had one horrible one and 7 either good or excellent. He does have the 5 BBs but 3 were in that one awful outing, and he also has 5 Ks and 0 home runs allowed. Of course, by itself that means little, but he had been a decent reliever until last year and apparently in his last outing his fastball was hitting 94. At 36 he is not so old as to clearly be through.
by bobr on Jun 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have the least faith in Nelson
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by FreeZorilla on Jun 12, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nelson is fine in low-medium leverage situations.
The key with Nelson is to make sure he faces mostly left-handed batters.
by twenty5psi on Jun 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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