More Relief Help Talk
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 12, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
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PrintListed 06-08:
IP - 132.2, 28, 109
K% - 24.91, 25, 17.65
BB% - 7.09, 5.47, 8.92
SwStr% - 10.9, 12.1, 8.6
FIP - 4.05, 1.92, 5.18
tRA - 4.36, 2.41, 6.01
If you weigh his FIP by the IP breakdowns, you get 4.62. He was a starter, so knock about a run off that and you would expect him to be a ~3.60-3.70 reliever. That would actually rate fourth on the Rays right now, just behind Lance Cormier/Randy Choate. Not too bad really. Depending on the leverage, could be quite valuable. Do a quick weighing of the strikeout and walk ratios and you find him in company of these relievers from 2008:
Justin Masterson
Average FIP of those involved: 3.7
Of course I'm talking about Pedro Martinez, but if I say "This is Pedro Martinez" people get nostalgic and start wondering if he could throw fight-delayed near no hitters for us. I have no idea how legitimate the interest is, but if he's coming as a reliever, I feel good about that. If he's coming as a starter, I feel queasy. At least this is more like Barry Bonds than Ken Griffey Jr. in the sense that it seems Martinez could actually help the team instead of becoming the mascot and a topic of hagiography.
Depending on the price and his willingness to relieve, and I guess close, it seems like a somewhat worthwhile venture for the Rays to pursue.
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I'm curious
The AL will be a re-adjustment. Addiitonally his K/BB was cut in half in 08 from 4ish to 2ish. Less work coould certainly mean he woudl be able to hold up better. Who are some AAA relivers historically comparable to An Abreu who were given ample opportunity but failed to make the leap?
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Is there a couple million around for this? Incentive-laden (Izzy) contract might be worth it...
but please no guaranteed money for a huge gamble that he could make the move to the bullpen. The Mets have Stokes in their bullpen and are not interested, so there is plenty of smoke…
The Mets also dealt for a clearly broken closer.
And I’m guessing a lot of this depends on whether Percival retires.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 12, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I had hoped that the sentimentality of the Angels being in town would make for a great "Percy retirement night"
That money would be handy over the next few months. Now I guess he waits until August and will do it at the Angels.
Pedro would be a solid closer IMHO
It all depends on the cost. Abreu and Thayer would be more than sufficient though.
Count me in for pedro as closer
I am sure he has more than one trick up his sleave,for AL east foes
I wonder what Heath Bell would cost us
He’s awesome. I am not sure how high our interest in Pedro is
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
I think he'd be tough to get
He’s been pretty good for three years and is still under team control for two more years…
I don’t think the Rays need to find a closer. They can probably find middle relief help for much less.
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great to see we found aspot where BallFour can’t harm anyone—long man
So coming in to a close game with two men on base is a harmless spot?
Seems like a pretty crucial spot.
I don't follow...
They used one of their better relievers in a fairly big spot. That’s where teams should use their good relievers.
He’s obviously been passed by Howell as far as high leveraged spots, but it’s not like he’s pitching mop up.
Relievers must throw strikes
especially late
Ball Four can’t do that
So you basically made a comment about yesterday's game...
Just to call Balfour a silly name and say he can’t throw strikes?
He was one of the best relievers in the league last year, he deserves an extended opportunity.
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