Now Catching for the Tampa Bay Rays...
Noting the changing in the baseball market and teams reluctance to part with prospects (i.e. team-controlled cheap seasons) for veterans, I was curious to see if there were any Rays deals that made sense. And one came to mind that I thought would be fun discussing.
Looking at the Rays across the board, there are two areas that seem to have the potential for surplus: outfield and starting pitching. Fernando Perez (injured), Desmond Jennings (AA), and Matt Joyce (AAA) round out the top outfield prospects in the near future. On the mound, Wade Davis (AAA), and Hellickson (AA) along with a lot of promising arms in the lower minors (see Moore, Barnese, etc). When looking at areas the Rays are in need of long-term help, one position sticks out like a sore thumb: catching. With no disrespect to Navarro, Rays fans are left wondering which Navarro is more true to the norm--last year's or this year's? And which end of the spectrum is he more likely to fall on.
But good catching prospects? Get in line. There are very few dominant young catchers. Victor Martinez (who also gets time at 1B) and Joe Mauer stick out right now. Brian McCann, Russell Martin, and Geovonny Soto(although he's slumping) are apart of the younger wave, with Matt Wieters appearing ready to join the ranks. Salty in Texas and Jeff Clement are two that appear on the fence who could go either way, although Salty is starting to make a name for himself at the Ballpark in Arlington. There is another name that is worthy of being mentioned: San Francisco's Buster Posey.
Posey is dominating in the minors and most expect him to be big-league ready next year. Since he's yet to make a major league debut, he is under complete team control for many years. Of all the catchers, he makes the most sense for the Rays to target. The question is, what is the price?
If the Rays truly wanted to get Posey, I think the asking price would be extremely high...like a Upton or Wade Davis, high. Now, before there is a no way in hell, what are you thinking, not even worth considering response, consider these options: How many more seasons will the Rays retain Upton? Do you think he'd be willing to sign an extension even for his arb seasons? He appears to have his eyes set on a major money deal as soon as it's possible. Do the Rays have enough starting pitching to warrant trading Davis? Is the potential trade of Davis for Posey the best way to deal from strength to get an impact player at an area of need?
If there was any way for the Rays to get Matt Cain along in the deal, I think it would be one heck of a trade, but probably unrealistic. It may already be unrealistic to pry Posey from the Giants hands, but it's worth a shot to try.
Knowing where the Rays stand, their minor league depth, their on-field needs, what would you be willing to pay?
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The Giants wouldn't trade Posey
for Price, Upton, and Zobrist
Rays Win!
by Sandy Kazmir on Jun 12, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well that would be foolish
they may not want to trade him, but everyone has their price
by raysfaninminnesota on Jun 12, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am thinking more ready now and possible
Pablo Sandoval. Rays should at least ask about him
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
by joeybw on Jun 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think there are questions that Sandoval won't stick at catcher...
Or can’t do so and stay healthy… He’s a large man…
I also think the Bay Area loves Sandoval and don’t see the Giants parting ways with him at this point.
by tallyray on Jun 12, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we all love
those fat catchers
by Gone Phishing on Jun 13, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, I'd be happy with a catcher that could produce like last year's Bartlett.
We don’t need a masher behind the plate, just someone who doesn’t actually look forward to GIDPs.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
by kericr on Jun 12, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've gone into this elsewhere...
But unfortunately the Rays are stuck with Navarro or will have to overpay to take a chance on someone else.
Catchers that perform similar to Navarro command about $3 million on the open market. Navi is under team control for two more years. They may as well play him until another cheap option comes along.
As for Posey, I’d say there is zero chance he’s traded.
He was given $6.2 million last year. A team doesn’t fork out that much without expecting a significant return. Now that it looks like Posey is the real deal (which most thought) they have less reason to get rid of him. As noted about, a replacement level catcher probably costs about $3 million. A catcher of Posey’s potential would be worth exponentially more. No one the Rays have (except Price, Longoria) has enough potential value to pry Posey away.
by tallyray on Jun 12, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think we should have picked Posey last year over Beckham
I think there is a better chance he will be a star than Beckham and much sooner. But that’s my opinion.
Rays baseball + Colorado Football= amazing
by raysfan81 on Jun 13, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not understand the phrase
“but that’s my opinion”. What purpose does it serve and how does it make your argument more credible?
To be more precise, why do you think your opinion is different from that of the Rays front office? And why exactly do you disagree with them?
by bobr on Jun 13, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be happy to give up say Moore/Ruggiano for Salty.
by Dbullsfan on Jun 12, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure the Rangers would not be okay with that deal at all.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on Jun 12, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd much rather have Teagarden
by a loooong shot
by Navi's_Navy on Jun 12, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Navi....
I’ll go out on a limb here and have a meeting of “strong arm” alternatives with our current catcher. (ya know, the starting all-star catcher last year) …stop kissing his a$$ and give him the put up or shut up. If it’s already been done, to the “fullest” extent which I have a hard time believing, then show him the door.
by RayGuy3 on Jun 12, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You are dumb for thinking that you are thinking
Rays Win!
by Sandy Kazmir on Jun 12, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suzuki
I think Kurt Suzuki with the A’s is another young catcher you can add to the list. He is having a decent season hitting thus far and he is quick. After the Rays played the A’s I’ve purposefully watched a few of their games to just see him behind the plate. The kid is quick.
by Suckerpunch on Jun 15, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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