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Matt Garza Outduels Joe Blanton In Rays Victory; Late Inning Hustle is Born

The crane brought peace and tranquility to the Trop last night. (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

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The crane brought peace and tranquility to the Trop last night. (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

The 7-1 final score of the Rays-Phillies game doesn't look like a typical pitchers duel. However, for nearly eight full innings Matt Garza and Joe Blanton went pitch for pitch and nearly strikeout for strikeout in a close game. Then late inning hustle made his first appearance and the Rays exploded on the Phillies bullpen for five runs in the eight inning. I wonder if Kevin Kennedy thinks Ben Zobrist struck out in his first two at-bats on purpose in order to save his legs for the hustle play of the century in the eight inning. Blanton would throw 121 pitches in seven innings (he pitched to one batter in the eight). He allowed two runs on six hits, two walks while striking out 10 Rays including striking out the side twice. Blanton kept the Rays hitters off balance by mixing up his fastball, change up and slider. He was good; Matt Garza was better.

Star-divide

Coming off three lackluster starts, Matt Garza delivered one of his best games of 2009.He would allow just one run on three hits and three walks. All three walks came in one inning. In the top of the 4th, Garza walked the first three batters before pulling of the Houdini and inducing a wonderfully turned double play. He then struck out Matt Stairs swinging escaping the jam with no damage. Garza would get his fair share of strikeouts as well. In eight full innings, he struck out seven while throwing 117 pitches. He induced 11 swinging strikes.

Once more, Garza relied heavily on his plus four seam fastball. Coming into last night he averaged around 69% fastballs per game, however, last night the fastball was so good he threw it 75% of the time. He also showed a good slider, and when needed, he went to his curveball and change up to keep hitters off balance. Note to David Price: You don't need to throw 50% change ups, but you need to let hitters know it's there.

One of the things I enjoy the most about Garza's starts is checking the velocity chart after the game. Not only does he usually maintain velocity throughout his starts, but he usually saves some of his best stuff for late in the game. Just look at the chart below and you can see Garza was pumping 95 after pitch 111. Pitch counts? We're talking about pitch counts?

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The Rays have a chance to take the series tonight in what could be Andy Sonnanstine's last start in the rotation. Sonnanstine is open to a move to the bullpen, and honestly I think that might be the best for all parties involved. As we've seen with J.P. Howell, a pitcher's strikeouts tend to go up while his walks tend to go down as a reliever. If Sonny becomes a right handed J.P. Howell, we will have to work on a cool nickname for him.

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CC and Upton should take note on Zobrist

Zobrist hustled and was safe on a play that was fairly routine.

CC and Upton lollygag out of the box all too often. Especially CC. Both of them jog out of the box and then if they see they have a shot at a double or triple then they pick up the pace. CC would have been safe by 3 strides if he ran hard the whole way.

*Of course running out of the box and going from 1st to 2nd on a grounder are two different things. I’m aware of that. I’m just sick and tired of seeing our guys jog out of the box and then have a close play at a base.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, CC and BJ are inidicative of most of the Rays and the league

and then there are a few Zobrists.

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 25, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed he did

Sprinting on contact with two outs is something every baseball player is taught to do and is much different then movement out of the box on a hit with less than 2 outs. EVERYONE watches their hit. Why don’t we bitch about Pena not sprinting out of the box yesterday on his double? He didn’t, does that make him lazy? No, that makes him a guy who wanted to see where his ball was going to land instead of running 20 yards past 1st base on a ball that falls in front of the OFer and gets him dead to rights between bases.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone is taught to get a head start

How they react once they see the lazy ground ball off the bat is another story.

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 25, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody called anybody lazy. Many of you need to get past that. Its a cop out when one of our players actually does something poorly on the base paths

First of all Upton and CC (especially CC) were the main culprits last night. Of course many other players do that. However last night it bit the Rays in the butt.

Here is where your opinion breaks down. I understand your point if you hustle around 1st you may get caught between 1st and 2nd. However both CC and Upton started running hard maybe 4 or 5 strides into their jog when they decided they could get extra bases. Say they started running hard and 4 or 5 strides into their hard run they decided they couldn’t get extra bases. They could slow down and make a traditional turn around the bag. Players can slow down too once they know what base they could get.

In CCs case he should have run hard from the get go. If the guy catches it then so what? No harm no foul. If he blocks it then he has a far better chance of sneaking into 2nd. If he gets it clean off of a hop then CC can slow down as he makes his turn. There is absolutely no downside to running hard out of the box.

Sure players watch their hits. Its the wrong play for every single baseball players regardless of race.

BTW it is a VERY VERY VERY sad state of affairs when I mention a play BJ/CC didn’t make but Benzo did that people automatically revert to the color of their skin. It is sad people cannot look past that.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He jogged halfway to first base. How does that not impact his home to 3rd time?

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also if CC made it I would still be calling him out on it

It is just unacceptable period. Success is quite irrelevant in this case. That is just a horrible predictive indicator. Jogging at first takes away your time from base to base. Sooner or later that will result in an out.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also thise.

BTW it is a VERY VERY VERY sad state of affairs when I mention a play BJ/CC didn’t make but Benzo did that people automatically revert to the color of their skin. It is sad people cannot look past that.

These are very different plays, so you can’t say Zobrist made the play and BJ/CC didn’t. There’s no way to go back and prove it, but I’m willing to bet that if Zobrist was safe at second that both BJ and CC would have been also.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my initial post I said they were different scenarios

I only mentioned it, and thought about BJ/CC was because of Tommys article. He mentioned Zobrist hustling as a central piece of scoring all those runs. It made me think of BJ and CC not hustling and one instance costing us runs.

Perhaps CC and BJ would have ran just as hard as Ben did in that situation? Nobody knows. What we do know is that they jogged halfway down to first before running hard on an extra base hit. And in one case the player was thrown out. That is what we do know. And that is unacceptable no matter who the player is. Or for all you racists out there…what race they are.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't about speed

It is about hustle. 99.9% of the league couldn’t have gotten a triple on Crawfords hit even if they ran 100%. Crawford running 100% gets the triple. Crawford running 75% at first then 100% doesn’t get the triple.

Just because other players don’t have the speed that Crawford does doesn’t excuse Crawford for not using it all the time.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is about speed, perhaps even more so than hustle.

You were saying Zobrist made it to second cause he hustled so much more and BJ and CC don’t. Well, it wouldn’t matter how much Navi hustled cause he’s never getting there. Speed is a big factor.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really are not following

This has nothing to do with whether CC would have made it to 2nd or whether Zobrist would have had a triple. Absolutely nothing.

This has nothing to do with results based analysis. Do not look at results.

I’m not cross comparing results between players.

I’m talking about each player maximizing his ability. Each player has a different natural ability. I’m not bashing one player for being better than another player. I’m talking about when a player does not play the way they are capable of playing. Not hustling causes you not to play the best way you can play.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly I don't get why

You seem to think CC running just 80% is acceptable because his 80% is still faster than most peoples 100%.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said it was

I just think comparing somebody hustling to second on a groundball with 2 outs to somebody hustling out of the box on a line drive to the outfield is somewhat pointless.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are absolutely full of yourself

the black = lazy joke is a meme around here.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

That doesn’t mean we shrug off when a black player (or BJ in particular) does not hustle just because some fans on the heater called him lazy.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate it when a thread gets away from me like this.

I’m not being clear. This isn’t a case of hustling versus not hustling. This is a case of physical coordination.

More specifically, it is impossible for someone to go into a full-on sprint while watching a fly ball in flight. One of four things happen

  • You don’t run straight, because your head leads your body in the direction you’re turning
  • You fall down and hurt yourself, because you’re attempting to force your body to move at maximium capacity in one direction while your head is attempting to move in another, which upsets your equilbrium.
  • You trip and fall or run into something, because you’ve actually managed to overcome the first two, and now you’re not looking where you’re actually going
  • You slow down, because your fear mechanisms prevent you from exhibiting maximum exertion over one of the first three possible outcomes.

This has absolutely nothing to do with effort. If anything, it has something to do with coaching since team allows players to watch their balls in flight because again, everyone on this team does it.

Zobrist could freely go full blast from 1st to 2nd because he didn’t have to watch the ball. All he had to do was make it to 2nd, because there were 2 outs. He also had a benefit of having the ball directly in his straight-ahead line of sight. I don’t know how much clearer this is, unless you want to criticize the entire team for not busting it out of the box, criticizing JUST CC and Upton is stupid, and since they’re the only black players on the team, you might as well throw the racist tag on it too.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Jun 25, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Many players certainly do that

I’m also not a nutjob that thinks they need to haulbutt on every single play. If they hit a groundball right at someone I understand jogging.

Basically here is where i personally draw the line in the sand. If you hit a ball and it requires an error to get on base then I understand not running 100%. However neither of those balls I’m talking about were errors. They were clearly close enough to be considered hits. So RUN!

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should run hard every play

Its not realistic but running out ground balls hard increases the chance of errors. Late in close games, it is realistic to run hard one very thing. Higher leverage and hustle down the line can easily make a defensive player rush a throw or bobble a ball. CC does a good job on the grounders as do Bartlett, Zo, Pena, and Aki. BJ is sporadic. Any idea on how to capture who reaches first on errors most frequently?

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 25, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

In an ideal world they run hard on every play. I just understand it when they jog here and there. I just think it is totally unacceptable to jog at any portion of a play that ends up being ruled a hit.

by matthan on Jun 25, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BJ did that earlier that very INNING

But I doubt he would’ve made it to third anyway.

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the Kennedy shot?

Granted he doesn’t give a quantitative approach, but don’t we get our fill here?

I enjoy his thoughts on the game, how a manager may think, a catcher calling a game and so on

by Raymondo on Jun 25, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did robin roberts manage the red sox?

not everyone gets to be in that club, you know

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bit unfair. While i enjoyed Magrane he had 10

years of being with the team to gain experience. Tough to blame Kennedy, the Rays knew what they were embarking when they selected him.

by Raymondo on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody is expecting him to be Magrane.

Robin Roberts showed more knowledge of this team in 10 minutes than Kennedy has all season.

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by Tommy Rancel on Jun 25, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I admit his eary games were weak, almost like a national broadcast

but i feel he’s learning the players much more as we move forward. Having said that, i look for the Rays to go in another direction next season

by Raymondo on Jun 25, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a bit unfair, but there are other points to consider:

Brian Anderson is miles ahead now of where he was last year, and between the two, I find him much more intriguing and entertaining. Anderson has got about 11 months more experience with the team then Kennedy, but it sounds like he’s got 11 years.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anderson has been with the team for two years now

Also, he worked in the Indians TV booth several times while rehabbing from TJ

by Raymondo on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy who talks about Edwin fucking Jackson

ten times a day gets sick of all the shitting on Kennedy. Hilarious.

by BJ the Bossman on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good writeup, Tommy
Once more, Garza relied heavily on his plus four seam fastball. Coming into last night he averaged around 69% fastballs per game, however, last night the fastball was so good he threw it 75% of the time. He also showed a good slider, and when needed, he went to his curveball and change up to keep hitters off balance. Note to David Price: You don’t need to throw 50% change ups, but you need to let hitters know it’s there.

This is what I was thinking all game.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's probably taking it too lilterally

::Price Pumping Fastballs::

Hitter: Stop throwing those. I can’t hit them.

Price: OK.

::Hanging Changup crushed for a home run::

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see Adolf Hitler rant about David Price.

Has anybody seen those “Movie Reviews by Adolf Hitler” videos on YouTube?

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 25, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. Links?

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Jun 25, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Links

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAJsM7TmmjU Hitler angry about Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_7mhflhuAc Hitler angry about Tottenham Hotspur

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLcoRJH4A0w Hitler angry about Star Trek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXnt8_okeRA Hitler angry about the delay for Harry Potter 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn1U2wfO5QM Hitler angry about Hitler parodies

They parody a scene in the film “Downfall” about the last days of Adolf Hitler.

We know something you don't know
And if we don't share then we don't grow
Unabomber set the whole world on fire

by Orlando Rays on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UF v. UGA

I believe they also have these for certain college football rivalries too—very funny.

by timmyj on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gunner?

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, 5-1.

NEVER FORGET.

Also, how you like David Bentley now? Mmmmm, sweet delicious, 40-yard out goals…

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a sweet goal.

Perhaps you can sit at home and watch it with admiration while I’m watching Arsenal in the Champions League this season.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now with more arshavin

and hopefully less adebayor

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

I think we could have made it deeper in the UCL with Arshavin.

I torn on Adebayor though. He can be a great player when he works, but it just wasn’t there for most of this year. We could also get a ton for him. Still the goal away against Villarreal was amazing.

I’m intrigued to see how our team will shake out during the transfer period and what formation Arsene will go with.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if milan offers 25m

then you jump on that, wrestle it to the ground, and cut off all of its oxygen so that it can never leave.

hopefully their top 2 targets don’t work out and all they’re left with is that clown.

also, cup tied rules are stupid.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our major problems were injuries though.

Silvestre is terrible, and I like Gibbs’ future but he still isn’t as good as Clichy. And look how much better we played once Cesc came back from injury.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i h8 ade

and we don’t even need him. rvp, andy, eduardo, bendtner, vela, theo. that’s a lot of striking depth. if milan want to give us more than arsene has ever had a mind to spend, then great. we aren’t chelsea. even if we only use some of it – the money’s still good for other parts of the operation.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure it'll be very exciting when the Arse sell Adebayor

and the board just pockets the money instead of getting a proper DM.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they will buy a dm

should’ve never given up on flamini.

flamini…..:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did a little dance when he went to Milan.

Anytime you can get rid of a young, on-the-rise holding midfielder who has great chemistry with your star midfielder and makes tackles with his head, you’ve gotta do it.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fucking awful

he was a machine of war. a tiny, french machine of war.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now you know how we feel about losing Carrick.

If it makes you feel better, you can have Didier Zokora for 10m!

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its like you can't stop failing to reply

your failure mirrors your preference in soccer teams.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ive been hearing this for five years

i hope you haven’t missed that $250.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too early in the transfer window to know what each team will look like.

But as they sit now, I don’t know how they would. There’s still other teams outside the top 4 that could be better than them.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check our record since we acquired Palacios.

We were one of the best best teams in the league from that point out. He made a huge difference. If we get a proper left winger (whether it’s Young, or even shitty-ass Downing), we can move Modric inside. A move up top would be nice, but I like our current crop of strikers (Keane, Pavy, Defoe, Bent). As long as Ledley’s healthy and Palacios doesn’t miss too many games because of his tendency to rack up yellows, the difference between Arsenal and Spurs is minimal.

Wish we’d taken the United game, though. Harry’s a great manager, but he’s a little too reactive instead of proactive – he should have expected United to bring on Tevez and go with three strikers, and when they did, he should have brought on another midfielder. He didn’t and we gave the game away.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no doubt there was a large improvement since you guys were hanging around the relegation zone.

But I still think we are a good bit better. Your defense and keeper leave a lot to be desired. I think Villa may still be better than Spurs right now.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, no way.

Obviously they were better last year, but they sold Barry (their foundation and best player) to City and might sell Ashley Young. Even if they buy some quality players, it’ll be tough too recover from those two (potential) losses, not to mention having the new players gel.

Spurs’ last three campaigns to break the top 4 were basically ruined by early season mishaps due to roster inconsistency (firing Martin Jol was an absolute crime).

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They lost Barry but played without Laursen for a good bit.

I agree that if they sell Young they have no chance, but they are still young and very talented. I also think Barry can be replaced. He’s a great player, but nothing that hasn’t been seen before. It’s not like United and replacing Ronaldo.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think Ronaldo's easily replaced.

Well, maybe not easily, but as important as he was to that side as a goal scorer, his all-around game is lacking.

United’s foundation is Van Der Saar-Vidic-Ferdinand-Carrick-Scholes (Fletcher, this year). Ronaldo’s a fantastic finisher, but his goal tally comes from being completely devoid of defensive responsibility and United’s tactical approach.

United could easily bump Rooney into the Ronaldo “right mid” role, and let Berbatov pair up top with whoever they get to replace Tevez and you’ll see similar results.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

way dumb to bid most of the Ronaldo money on Aguero

For 90m you can revamp your entire roster. losing ronaldo is not their only problem.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this.

They could use a young keeper (Joe Hart? City seems to have no interest in letting him play. Shay Given’s fantastic, but it wasn’t like Hart was Paul Robinson), proper cover for Vidic and Ferdinand (especially with Rio’s back problems), and either a forward or winger, depending on what they decide to do with Rooney.

If it were me, I’d just move Rooney to Ronaldo’s spot, let Macheda take Tevez spot and just find a 3rd/4th striker.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Ronaldo is easily replaced.

He is the second best player in the world IMO (I change between him and Messi somewhat often though) and Rooney could not do the things he does with the ball. However, I do agree that he has no defensive responsibilities. I think United will just make more of a tactical change to deal with his loss as opposed to a personnel change. If they want to play the same way they should bring in a player like Robinho to take Ronaldo’s role. They should be fine either way though, cause it is kind of hard to spend 90m and not get some kind of positive return.

by nolesblogger on Jun 25, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, he's terrible.

And we’ll probably sell him – If there’s a God, Villa does that Ashley Young deal for Bentley, Jenas, and cash.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cant watch the video at work

i assumed he was just angry arse didn’t thump them as bad as usual.

fuck spurs.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My old man said be a Arsenal fan,

I said “fuck off, bollocks you’re a cunt”
We took the North Bank in half a minute,
We took the the Shed with the Chelsea in it,
We Hammered the Hammers,
With carving knifes and spanners,
We taught the Millwall how to fight,
So I’ll never be a Gunner,
Cos every cunts a runner,
That’s what I told my old man.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You were my favorite poster until you revealed you're Scum.

Now you’re at the bottom, right next to TGN1.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

him?

/bland’d

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, I'm a Chelsea fan, so I can't say much.

Our owner is rich Russian jew.

RD over and out.

by ReasonableDoubt on Jun 25, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Abramovich.

He makes me laugh every time they show up at a game.

He’s the Steinbrenner of the EPL (old fashion George, that is). His team barely misses out on winning the Champions League because their captain slipped on a PK? FIRE THE COACH!

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there are no such thing as chelsea fans

those are called “people who just watch soccer on espn”.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh god no.

I’m a Lillywhite to the core. We should have won that game, though.

by Suttree on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fastball?

i agree that they both need to, but price was notified pretty early on tuesday and didn’t adjust.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hickey

I asked the folks at Beyond the Boxscore about evaluating pitching coaches. Dan Turkenkopf pointed me to the following articles on Dave Duncan and Leo Mazzone. I’d almost say we went more in depth, less age regression.

http://www.3-dbaseball.net/2009/06/disecting-genius-examining-dave-duncan.html (3D Baseball)

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2005/03/the_mazzone_eff_1.php (JC Bradbury)

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 25, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The changeup is what he worked on

I don’t care what the third offering is, but given his elite talent level, there is no reason why he could not develop some third pitch.

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 25, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not blaming Price

I just don’t want the Rays to abandon the 3rd Pitch Project

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by FreeZorilla on Jun 25, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its not a race issue

Fact: Most player do not routinely hustle
Fact: Zobrist almost always does

If BJ or Carl had the opportunity to beat out the FC last night, it would have been equally celebrated. There is no shame in recognizing hustle. Its good to recgonize it when the results don’t end well, b/c its the process that ultimately leads to more good results than bad.

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