Scott Kazmir's Start Comes Tomorrow
Lots of shuffling between Durham and St. Petersburg tonight, let's go step-by-step.
Andy Sonnanstine demoted
In the end, roster flexibility was the difference. Jeff Niemann has no options, Sonnanstine does, there was no way the Rays were going to designate Niemann for assignment, and sending him to the bullpen is a pretty good way to sap any potential trade value he has. For the short run, the difference between the two is quite marginal. Sonnanstine has a 6.01 tRA and 5.10 FIP; Niemann has a 5.44 tRA and 4.82 FIP. In the long run, things get murky. Sonnanstine's tRA* is 5.28 and his xFIP is 4.64; meanwhile Niemann has a 5.20 tRA* and a 5.50 xFIP. The regressions are heavily based upon inflated and deflated homeruns allowed rates.
Scott Kazmir to start Saturday
Hopefully Kazmir's Durham start is an indication of things to come. Don't expect the world in this first start back, otherwise you'll probably be disappointed. If Kazmir has regained 2006 or even 2008 form the Rays are a better team for it. If he's still the mess we saw in April...well, let's wait and see.
Winston Abreu designated for assignment
Sigh. So ends the Quada era.
Hopefully Abreu passes through waivers. I wouldn't be shocked to see a team like San Diego, Seattle, or Pittsburgh throw a claim his way. It's not that Abreu is an overly rare commodity, or even a valuable asset, it's just a bit confusing as to why the Rays would promote him instead of Dale Thayer and risk losing a lottery ticket for a few innings of mop-up work. Not many teams were lining up to give Abreu a roster spot prior to this season, maybe he's back closing in Durham next week after all.
At some point he's going to start drinking heavily before taking the mound in Triple-A. Just so has a challenge.
Chad Bradford added to the 25-man roster
FIP over the last three seasons: 2.53/3.56/4.08. ZiPS has Bradford at 3.39, CHONE at 3.86. If Bradford pitches somewhere in the middle he's the third best high-leverage reliever on the team behind Howell and Choate. Having a sure thing against righties who induces a ton of groundballs should be fun again. My umi says Bradford's delivery is fascinating.
David Price starts Sunday
Demoting Price to the bullpen makes no sense, especially if the goal is for him to learn a third pitch. Seriously, put Price in the pen and he turns into Matt Thornton. I'm not sure where Price falls the rest of the year, but at least he's fun to watch.
Jeff Niemann starts Monday
With Roy Halladay opposing him. Anyone who judges pitchers off wins and losses should A) stop, B) ignore this game as an evaluating tool for Niemann. The Rays offense is good, but it's Halladay.
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I'm not a fan of getting rid of Abreu
Dillon would have been better
by matthan on Jun 27, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
serious why even keep Dillon
Sonny was used as a PH over him
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by RaysOfHope on Jun 27, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Dillon may be gone before 10 days are up
DFAing Abreu gives them 10 days to figure out what to do. If someone needs to be removed from the 40-man, I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s someone else and Abreu ends up in AAA.
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by Brickhaus on Jun 27, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone besides me not too happy with Kazmir and Price starting back to back
not only does it give opponents back to back looks at lefties (if that matters any) but more importantly both of those guys are highly likely to go 5 innings or less and highly unlikely to go 7 innings +. While they are sandwiched by 2 guys in Niemann and Shields who both can consistently go 7 innings it still has the makings to deflate the pen. This wouldn’t be as big of a problem if Dillon had been DFA’d and Abreu kept.
by Dbullsfan on Jun 27, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No matter how you slice it, the Rays are going to have a fear of 2 potentially volitle guys going back to back.
Shields and Garza can sandwich a potential fireman, but if we pretend that you put them in the 2 and for spots, you still have this problem when the rotation rolls from 5 back to 1.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Jun 27, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why I think this is an unique situation where a 13th arm would be wise
by matthan on Jun 27, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in theory if keeping Dillon around was because of Longoria's Hammy
we could always have Dale Thayer on call if we need to fly him down if the pen is taxed.
by Dbullsfan on Jun 27, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niemann's average start is 5 innings as well, and that includes the CG. So three in a row averaging 5 IP per start.
13 pitchers seems like a very logical move, especially for the next three days….
by Doyouseeit? on Jun 27, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Niemann wins this game by 14 runs, I'm going to burn my Shields jersey.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Jun 27, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll hold you to it
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by Some other guy who does not care on Jun 27, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually working on a piece that shows Sonny should be 2nd on the team in wins with Neimann having the most losses on the team
Given a constant offensive output. Of course there are other ways to look at it that shows Sonny as the one performing poorly.
Although the hypothetical w’s and l’s portion may not be exact since I’m not using the absolute correct FIP formula. I’m just using 3.2 as a constant across the board since thats really all the info i can easily get. It won’t really make a difference since I’m just comparing members of the same team rather than across teams
by matthan on Jun 27, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the constant this year is 3.15, for what it's worth.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 27, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah thanks
I have all the formulas refering to one cell so that would be easy to change. Either way I’m comparing the pitchers so it wouldn’t really make it or break it if my FIPs are a tad bit high across the board as long as its consistent
by matthan on Jun 27, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was hopeing that we would go with Sonny one more start and Kaz one more rehab start
but oh well im glad Kaz is back, i should say i hope amazing Kaz is back
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by RaysOfHope on Jun 27, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What would everyone consider a KAZ success in his start?
by RalphieTheRay on Jun 27, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7IP, < 16 pitches per inning
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Jun 27, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*And a fastball around 93
I just want him to show that he’s not broken down. If he gets banged around for 5 runs, no big deal.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Jun 27, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this.
Show better control/command and velocity and I’m not sure I care whether he gets torched or not.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 27, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nauseating images of April and May Kazmir getting rocked keep floating around in my mind
I am doubtful he will return to his 2008 form.
by acablue on Jun 27, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Rays can beat Santana and JJ, they can beat Halladay
IT CAN BE DONE
by acablue on Jun 27, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
esp with Halladay coming off the injury
And esp since we have more experience vs Halladay than the other two
by matthan on Jun 27, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can beat anyone.
But it’s Halladay. What do you expect me to say?
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 27, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also it's on the road.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Jun 27, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that too.
I don’t think the Jays are quite this good either, but they’re pretty good, and it’s Halladay. And it’s on the road.
Niemann could pitch well and lose, that’s just how it is.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 27, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im disappointed with the decisions
I wish Sonny wasn’t demoted.
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by Gone Phishing on Jun 27, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not suprised at all
Sonny had options and wasn’t pitching all that well. But hopefully he comes back as soon as the Red Sox play us.
by sofladude77 on Jun 27, 2009 2:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In AAA
Sonny needs to work on his form against right-handers if he wants to contribute to this team. .370 BA allowed and 10 HR isn’t gonna cut it.
by sofladude77 on Jun 27, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THANK GOD!
They demoted Sonny. Maybe that’ll teach him to quit leaving his breaking ball up.
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 27, 2009 7:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GooodBYE
This is the best decision the Rays could have made. Hopefully Kaz can regain his old glory.
This improbable season has one more chapter!
by Mike the Maniac on Jun 27, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you just discover Mos Def or something?
Until Next Time,
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 27, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
David Price would be Matt Thorton
I know very little people here want Price in the pen, I sure don’t
However, Thorton is a stud and I am not sure what you mean, you want him in the pen?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Scott Kazmir but for who?!
by joeybw on Jun 27, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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