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B.J Upton and Carl Crawford Propel Rays To Victory

Tampa Bay Rays' Michel Hernandez (41) waits at the plate to congratulate teammate B.J. Upton, right, after scoring on his two-run home run off Kansas City Royals reliever Jamey Wright during the eighth inning of a baseball game Thursday, June 4, 2009, in St. Petersburg, Fla. Upton's home run proved to be the game-winner in the 3-2 win over the Royals. (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)

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5 months ago: Tampa Bay Rays' Michel Hernandez (41) waits at the plate to congratulate teammate B.J. Upton, right, after scoring on his two-run home run off Kansas City Royals reliever Jamey Wright during the eighth inning of a baseball game Thursday, June 4, 2009, in St. Petersburg, Fla. Upton's home run proved to be the game-winner in the 3-2 win over the Royals. (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)

When most teams put a man in scoring position in each of the first five innings, you expect them to score a few runs.  Or at least ONE run.  Well, the Rays are not most teams. 

After being shut out by Gil Meche for the first six innings of tonight's game despite many scoring opportunities, the Rays finally got something going in the 7th as Carl Crawford made it 2-1 with his fourth home run of the season.  As Crawford continues to hit well and steal bases at a Brockian pace, the man batting in front of him is beginning to heat up.

B.J. Upton doesn't like to waste home runs.  His first homer of the season was a walk off against the Indians.  His second came the following day, putting the Rays up 1-0 after they had been completely dominated by Carl Pavano for the first three innings.  His third, obviously, was tonight.  With Michel Hernandez on first with two outs, the Rays trailing 2-1, and the prospect of facing Royals' closer Joakim Soria, Upton lifted the first pitch he saw from Jamey Wright into the left field seats.  We've talked ad nauseam on this site about B.J. Upton's struggles and his eventual regression to the mean, but you're starting to see it now.  Upton has a hit in all but one game since May 21st, raising his average from .186 to .218 going into today's game, and is currently on an 8 game hit streak.  I know the Royals don't exactly have a great rotation outside of Greinke but Upton killed them in this series, going 5-11 with 2 doubles, 1 home run, 2 steals, 3 RBI, and 3 walks.  It's clear that his shoulder is still bothering him, and no one knows exactly how long that is going to last, but to all of you fairweather fans out there who have been booing him this season, please don't start cheering as Upton rounds into form.  He startin to get back that swagga.

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come on

Seriously – call people out for booing upton? Im not saying i’m one of those that are booing him but fans should have the ability to show their distaste for someone who is grossly underachieving. Sure, he should progress to the mean; but as of right now, he is hitting first, playing poorly, and that’s about it. I know this site loves to suck bj off, but the truth is that he is not playing well, and fans should treat him as such. Has he really put up a track record to back his poor play? Very doubtful.

by FanDisplaced on Jun 5, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Boo-ing your own players is stupid

Especially those who are earning league minimum and recovering from a major shoulder surgery. Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er.

Percival saw Dr. Koko Eaton's last name and mistook it for his prescribed treatment.

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its in the edit profile section

Click on your name and look around for it. I recommend the longest, shittiest one you can think of.

Rays Win!

by Sandy Kazmir on Jun 5, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a firm believer in not booing a player until he's declared hopeless.

BJ’s defense has been nothing short of spectacaloo* this year. You can’t boo that. Boo Kapler. Boo Percy. Boo Wheeler. Don’t boo BJ.

  • = meaning spectacular squared

RD over and out.

by ReasonableDoubt on Jun 5, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There ARE reasons to boo a player...

And BJ is not exhibiting any of those characteristics. When a player is showing little effort. When a player is a prick to fans. When a player is a prick in general. Those are a few of the reasons to boo. Booing a guy that helped propel this team throught the playoffs last season is ignorant.

by td32 on Jun 5, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Disagree

Booing your own players brings you down to Yankees/Mets/ Red Sux levels and I’m pretty sure thats not where we want to be

Rays baseball + Colorado Football= amazing

by raysfan81 on Jun 5, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 of BJ's 3 homeruns have come on the very first pitch

That’s .666 forever, if you’ll recall. Clearly this man-child has sold his soul to the devil to acquire his tremendous batting abilities.

by Zach Attack on Jun 5, 2009 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shush.

We’re trying to start bluesmanesque rumors about BJ’s deal with the devil.

by Suttree on Jun 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Upton love is getting a little tiresome

He’s given every benefit of the doubt in the world when struggling and then treated like “black jesus” when he has a good series. On the other hand, CC got crapped all over last season when he was struggling.

by RaysTheRoof on Jun 5, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He got crapped on around here with his "ambushed" shit when he had to play centerfield.

BJ probably should be dropped down in the order. But if he can keep covering 83% of the Earth when he has a glove on, he can hit .150 for all I care.

RD over and out.

by ReasonableDoubt on Jun 5, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No offense taken

but I did follow the site even though I wasn’t a member

Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla

by FreeZorilla on Jun 5, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC plays great defense also

And CC complaining about CF and the batting order should be equal to the BJ laziness. I know people hate to seriously look at it, but BJ did take quite a few plays off last year. He was benched for a reason. You can’t give one guy a free pass and not the other guy.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, he was crapped on around here well before the CF comments

He has never been given any benefit of the doubt around here. If you don’t believe look back through the archives. Me and few others were the only ones sticking up for him.

by RaysTheRoof on Jun 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems tough on fans

You may not have been “booing” him, but Erik you were pretty jumpy when it came to Crawford earlier this year. 14 games into the season you wrote….

Simply put, Carl Crawford has been a black hole in the Rays lineup thus far.,,,,I fear that Crawford is going to start pressing, if he hasn’t already, and that’s just going to make things worse. Maybe a temporary drop in the order to 6th or 7th where there’s less pressure to perform is what Crawford needs to get his bat back on track.

Everything you said in the piece was true – but so has many of the criticisms of Upton’s production to this point as well. As you were in that piece, it’s easy to become frustrated and criticize the players you follow. Heck that was only after 15 games – not almost 50 like it has been with Upton.

by JBradley on Jun 5, 2009 5:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There is a definite disparity between the way CC and Upton have been treated on this blog

No doubt about that. As ReasonableDoubt said it may have something to do with CCs lack of desire to do things to help the team (change spots in the batting order, play CF), but the truth of the matter is the hate extended far beyond that. Also if we bash CC for that then we have to bash BJ for the “laziness”. Yes it was WAY overblown, but so was the CC thing. BJ did get benched for not running out balls.

And we also can’t bring up defense because CC plays great defense also. So that cannot be the reason for the disparity. I think the disparity of treatment is mainly for two reasons. First and foremost there is just definite bias. The monster has grown and now you have to stick with the path you’ve gone. However I think the main difference is that there is a bit of a difference in “process” (at least there was) between the two players and the quite a few people on this blog gravitate towards the process BJ employs rather than CC. CC typically is a hacker, very impatient and swings out of the zone a lot. BJ is far more patient. The folks on this board really cherish the way BJ approaches that. I get it and I agree with that. I just don’t put that much weight on it. It is part of the picture. For example BJ leaves the bat on his shoulder a bit too much and swings through meatballs quite a bit. That is another part of the picture.

BJ is a hard case to figure out due to his injuries. The bulk of his processes are good, but his results have been poor for the most part (at the dish). At what point do we realize that we may be missing something in terms of evaluating the process? But he has been hurt. It is an enigma thats for sure.

Although there is certainly a double standard.

I love both players equally. And thank god I kept BJ on my fantasy squad.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As much as anything, I think it's a reaction against the criticism BJ received last year, and honestly, over the last few years.

Crawford’s always been highly regarded, so there’s been a mentality of “he’s fine.” Where as with BJ, first he got lumped into the Elijah/Delmon character crisis (which was unfair, but getting a DUI doesn’t help), and then all the criticisms last year of his bat and his defense that were borderline racist.

by Suttree on Jun 5, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fair enough. I forgot about that

I love both players. I do sense a double standard here, but to fix that I’d rather everyone show CC more love than show BJ less.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a slight one, maybe, but in general,

I think you’ll have seen plenty of people shit themselves around here over how bad BJ has been. I think most everyone here appreciated Carl’s defense last year, but when he’s bad at the plate, he’s fucking terrible to watch.

by Suttree on Jun 5, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You make it seem like BJ was good to watch at the plate this year and last year

BJ hitting this year has been one of the ugliest things I’ve ever seen from a MLB player. I guess it is a matter of perspective. What looks worse to you? CC hacking at bad pitches or BJ letting a called third strike past him or swinging through a meatball placed on a tee.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used up all my Craw love about 3 years ago. I've seen what he can do. I guess I have a shorter leash because he's the

big dog and Upton is still the puppy. I’m willing to tolerate when Beej shits on the carpet because I hunger to see what else he can do. It may also be part of a defense mechanism as I know Craw will be leaving us sooner.

Rays Win!

by Sandy Kazmir on Jun 5, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC and BJ are probably my two favorite players on the team

Although I have to admit that BJ is way more of a natural hitter and Carl sometimes makes me cringe with his approach at the plate.

by Zach Attack on Jun 5, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booing?

I don’t think I’ve heard anyone boo Upton. I have heard people clamoring for him to be moved down in the order. Which, using conventional baseball wisdom and not the “lineups don’t matter” paradigm, is what you do when your leadoff guy is hitting a buck-fifty. But everybody wants BJ to do well.

by nomoredevil on Jun 5, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they did

In general, our fan base is retarded. They booed Price this year in his first home start when he made that throwing error to first. I actually thought the play was funny. It wasn’t like he wasn’t playing seriously, didn’t care, and didn’t give any effort. He just made a terrible play. For me there are only a few reasons to boo a player from your own team:
1. He is lazy/doesn’t give a good effort. (This is why BJ will get booed, even though there were only a few instances where he wasn’t playing hard. There is the association with BJ that he is lazy that is mostly untrue. Now at games you can often hear people complain that he didn’t make a play cause he wasn’t hustling.)
2. A player says that he doesn’t like playing for his current team/in his current city.
3. You can boo a former player if they left the team for a big pay day as a FA (i.e. Damon for Sox fans) or asked to be traded to another team (i.e. Manny). Booing a player that was traded without his request is unfair, since it was largely out of his control.

I think it is unreasonable for fans to boo a player if he is just playing poorly. He is either not talented enough or just going through a slump. Either way it may not be entirely in his control and these kind of things happen to even the best players. These opinions may be biased since I am a Cardinals fan first, and the Cardinals fan base tends to be one of the most positive in all of baseball.

by nolesblogger on Jun 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets not be unthankful A-Hole fans like the Yankees and other teams….Every player goes through a slump and B.J’s D makes up for it…Chill Tampa

by tampaballn on Jun 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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