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Series Preview: 6/5-6/8 Tampa Bay Rays @ New York Yankees

6/5: David Price vs. CC Sabathia (7:05 SS)

6/6: Matt Garza vs. Joba Chamberlain (1:05 FSF)

6/7: Andy Sonnanstine vs. A.J. Burnett (1:05 SS)

6/8: Jeff Niemann vs. Andy Pettitte(7:05 FSF/ESPN)

Star-divide

Something different this time, a little Q&A with Ed Valentine of Pinstripe Alley.

The Yankees have about a gazillion dollars, yet Angel Berroa is on the roster instead of someone like Mark Grudzielanek. Why?

I wish I had a good answer for you on that one. I've been screaming about that since before Spring Training even started. Thank God for Ramiro Pena, a young infielder with an outstanding glove who has relegated Berroa to being even more useless than I thought he would be. I don't care how they do it, the Yanks have to get Berroa off the roster.

How often did you have to put up with panicking about Teixeira "not adapting well to New York"?

Oh, there was some of that. But, geesh, he is traditionally a slow starter. The problem with New York, and New York fans, is that every game is the 7th game of the World Series and every at-bat is the 9th inning of that 7th game. For crying out loud, A-Rod, who has been terrific -- and clutch -- got booed Wednesday night for hitting into a bases-loaded DP.

Brian Cashman calls Kenny Williams to thank him for gift wrapping Nick Swisher how many times a day?

Not enough. Maybe Cash-money can get Williams to take Berroa for, say, Bobby Jenks

Is Phil Hughes ever going to get a consistent crack at the rotation?

Yeah, he is. I think Hughes is going to be terrific, and he has shown hints of that so far this season. He is still only 22. We have been having great fun at PA debating Hughes/Chien-Ming Wang/Joba Chamberlain. In the end, it will take care of itself. Right now, the Yanks have six good starters for five slots. Better to debate this than worry about watching Darrell Rasner, Kei Igawa, Sidney Ponson and Ian Kennedy try to start games -- which we had to do last year.

Besides the prices, worst part of the new stadium?

 Some people will tell you the home runs, but I think in the end that is really a non-issue. The premium seating around home plate is a disaster thus far, as is the fact that no one can go down by the dugout before a game for an autograph unless they have a ticket to those premium seats. The restaurant in center field obscures the view of some of the bleacher seats, which I find ridiculous. There had to be a better way to design it. Also, it bugs me that Monument Park is hidden behind the center field wall and can't be seen. That said, all in all it is a gorgeous place.

Thanks to Ed for his time, you can check out my answers to his questions at Pinstripe Alley

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The Rays have to win this series.

They’re not going have a chance to compete in the division if they can’t win on the road. I’m pretty sure that at this point, the Yankees aren’t going to let anyone back into the division race by coming back to earth, so to speak. So anybody who wants to compete in the division is going to have to go out and get them, and the only way the Rays can do that is to play better then .500 on the road. Winning this series is critical in both reeling these guys in and getting that road record back up.

"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."

by kericr on Jun 5, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

We have to win these series. We’ve had a relatively easy schedule so far and the only way to make up ground is by beating the teams ahead of us. It may be the tougher way to win but it is the easiest way to make up ground.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

4 games in NYC

Very happy with a split.

(of course, if we only play 3 because of rain, better win 2 of ’em)

by TallMatt on Jun 5, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

There is a watch party at Courtside tonight

I may go. I live and work pretty much right there. I love to yell at Rich. I probably shouldn’t go (or at least not get liquored up) as I have the CFA L2 exam tomorrow, but I’ll probably go nonetheless for a bit. So if you are to let me know.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

CFA L2

Better not get too liquored up. That test is a bear! Much harder than L1!

by rays_world_champs on Jun 5, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

My roommate does too.

I’m sad because he sucks, and it has kept him away.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sucks to miss Saturday's game.

But the first beer you drink after that exam tastes like no other. Curious, are you required to have the CFA, or just taking it for better resume, etc?

by Mulva on Jun 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mainly for the resume. I'm just 24 so I have a ways to go job wise. Every job I'd want requires it or at the minimum it would really help my prospects at landing the gig.

 I had no problem with L1 but I haven’t really been able to put the time into L2 so I’m a bit iffy on this one. I just took L1 in December and I’ve had a boatload of things going on in the meantime. I’ve definitely known all the material at some point in my life, but it is just a matter of what comes back to me tomorrow.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck.

The bright side is L3 is pretty easy once you get there. I’ve got people all around me talking about it or out studying. Good to have it out of the way before you have accrued the work experience too. What type of job are you looking for?

by Mulva on Jun 5, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just haven’t had the time to study. I’m lucky enough that I just finished grad school so there is obviously quite a bit of overlap between B School and the CFA curriculum. So I’m hoping that overlap will help me pass. Either way if I don’t this time around I won’t be in too bad of shape going forward. Job wise I’m not totally sure yet. Anything within M&A would be nice, but I know quite a few people with advanced degrees having a hell of a time getting anything good. So I guess beggars can’t be choosers. Plus I’d like to be around the TB area so I’ll keep more of an open mind job wise in order to stay in the area. I’ll definitely move anywhere if the right job comes along, but I’d rather be around Tampa. I actually know (comes with the territory) and enjoy almost all areas of finance so I’m pretty open minded about employment. The only thing I’d want to stay away from is anything relating to tax. I actually just applied for a Finance/Econ job at the CIA. Thats a gig I’d move for.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rain in the forecast

All afternoon into the evening. We’ll see when it tapers off, but we could be looking at at least a delayed start tonight.

www.raysprospects.com

by Imperialism32 on Jun 5, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

First 2 look good to me.

And don’t forget Sonny had about his best start of the year against NY last time., and Niemann has trended up.

But I don’t think this is a crucial one yet. Rays getting swept would be bad, but highly unlikely.

Any guesses on the over/under for total HR’s in the series? I’m thinking around 12ish.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Jun 5, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

11.5 maybe?

That’s ~3 per game.

I want to say over, only because I can see Joyce having his first multiple homerun game this series.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Short porch meet Mr. Joyce.

I think ya’ll will really hit it off.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

Say tonight gets rained out, ok, Price goes tomorrow but then his next start would be on 3 days rest, they will NOT let that happen. Think a rain out tonight gets Kazmir a start next week?

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok

A) Try again in english
B) Plane tickets? I live here, she lives here, plane wasn’t really needed

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

what in gods name are you talking about

I was asking about Price on short rest, who cares how much damage my bank account took, Yankee Stadium to see the Rays and hopefully get laid soon.

Can someone who isn’t a retard tell me what they think about this Price/Kazmir thing.

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I call those

putupyourDUKESians

Rays Win!

by Sandy Kazmir on Jun 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont remember saying I never met her

But maybe I should of went to the game solo!

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't get it

he’s doing something that he would enjoy doing anyway. it’s not nearly as bad as buying some expensive theater tickets or some shit like that.

Selgy

by mittens on Jun 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If something like that happened I would guess we would get the ML debut of Carlos Hernandez

He has pitched well of late in Durham and with Talbot being hurt my guess is he is the first in line to get a spot start. I haven’t heard any signs of Kazmir being ready to be thrown back into the rotation soon.

by Dbullsfan on Jun 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

*leaves thread asks dog for his opinion*

He may actually give me an answer!

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Depends.

Would they schedule a double header this weekend? (If so I’ll go to both games.)

There is a -8% chance they will start Price on 3 days, so it’s either Kazmir or Talbot.

by davelrogers on Jun 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

just looking for opinions here

I know it wont be Price but who is my question. They have let Garza go on 3 days rest before. Kazmir is a likely option, Talbot maybe. Just say no to Carlos Hernendez, Wade Davis or Lance Cormier to start

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like a good way to get Kazmir back in the mix.

Though, there has been talk of him doing a rehab stint, and the front office will want to see him be successfull before throwing him back out there.

My guess is he’ll pitch his way through AA and AAA before coming back. I’ve never been a fan of Kazmir as a releiver but that could be an option the FO considers.

Oh Kaz
how has it gotten this far???

by davelrogers on Jun 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahah, Jonah Keri referenced the Mkanix Hitting Instruction for Zorilla today on the Fantasy Focus podcast.

THE PATENT LAWYER GOT TO HIM TOO

Also called him “Mike Marshall-esque” so I assume he reads my posts.

Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I've actually got a system in place to teach people to craete Bon Mot at a higher level. It's all about putting your arm in the slot and reading more books.

I’ve got two clients out there in the posting community now, with varying degrees of success. I think once they start coming through this idea will take off.

If you’re interested in the training give me a call at 727-460-4620 and we can set up time to come out to my facility in rural Arkansas

Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 5, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok putupyourDUKES

You obviously have picked me to have a problem with, its like you follow me around to annoy me. So whatever is up your ass, take it out and I call a truce. I have always hated forum fights and you keep trying to argue with me.

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Just don't refer to her "cunty" on your date.

And as for you and putupyourDUKES: “don’t break up you guys”.

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

"getting cunty" is just a dumb thing that

me and my friends said when we were very high and on vacation. Not sure why I said it yesterday.

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's cool, I was just really amused by the wording

Have fun in that mausoleum of a stadium, I’m going to try to catch a game there when I’m in NYC in September.

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delmon is awful:
The current version of Young combines Jeff Francouer’s pitch recognition, Adam Dunn’s contact abilities, and Juan Pierre’s power. Just for good measure, he’s also playing the outfield like Jack Cust. Add it all up, and you have a guy who has been worth -1.3 wins in 125 plate appearances. Prorated over a full season, that’s -6.5 wins.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/what-to-do-with-delmon

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet you he has 1 good year

His FA year then he will suck again until he gets to even stay in the majors for another FA year

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i cant hate him too much though

he got us Barty and Garza

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't hate him.

I feel bad for him that he lost his mother and all that. So much hope was pinned on his shoulders, and all for naught.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Even today, Desmond Jennings would be a better hitter and a MUCH better fielder. Sad.

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-3 yesterday w/ a 2b, a 3b, and a BB.

Slash line up to .361/.427/.582/1.009. He is such a stud.

He’s been arguably the best hitter so far of any legit prospect in AA. He’s 3rd in AVG, 2nd in SLG, and 2nd in OPS in the southern league right now.

STUDTOWN!

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's awesome to see this

I was dismayed last year with all his health issues. If he gets moved to AAA when do we consider bringing him up. Does he leap-frog a healthy Nando on the depth chart?

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's say, as a backup/fill in first

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention service time.

Which hopefully is a big issue with him.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly.

It’s like the Mariners OF defensively with the O’s offensively. Splooge.

BTW, have you noticed how poorly Pacman has rated so far? I was shocked (granted sss).

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So when's the timetable for Nando?

I want Joyce/Nando RF platoon.

Also love having him as the late-inning pinch-run threat.

by twenty5psi on Jun 5, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't heard any updates.

Hopefully by the end of the year though.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hurt his wrist

so you would think that he could at least be used as a pinch runner once the roster expands. I think that would have been his primary role anyway.

by nolesblogger on Jun 5, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I almost feel bad for him.

I always liked him when he was here. Then again, I liked Dukes too, so…

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand.

It seems like part of his bust has been his own fault.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Too many people his whole life telling him he was the best. He never learned how to adjust or listen.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's just it.

He may yet become a good ballplayer (although he’ll have to really rake to make up for the bad defense) if the power ever develops, but by that time he’ll almost certainly be arbitration-eligible or even a FA. If present trends hold, it won’t matter.

baseball is played on a calculator in your grandmother's basement, not on the field

by RATW on Jun 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many pitchers have we gotten demoted already?

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gallagher

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we're well on our way to having a fresh meme

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was someones (joeybw maybe) term for a girl advancing her permiscuosity

I’m going to use it to describe opposing pitchers and Youkolis from now on.

by davelrogers on Jun 5, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This specifically?

from joeybw: A girl I recently met wants to go out on a date to Yankee Stadium and see the Rays (well I guess she wants to see the Yankees) so I have 2 tickets, if she gets cunty by Saturday, you are now 1st on my list

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are probably better things to do with your time

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Jun 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're going to make BJ settle for a La-Z-Boy?

"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."

by kericr on Jun 5, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no wait, I see what you did there.

"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."

by kericr on Jun 5, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I started thinking about Bonds first before I saw the wordplay there. Can't believe I missed it.

"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."

by kericr on Jun 5, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This sucks

Swav or Die
For the lulz

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankly, I like my updates to be from official sources.

MLB.com, raysbaseball.com, and yankees.com ATM still show the game as scheduled.

"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."

by kericr on Jun 5, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I get to see Price now

now the short rest problem will happen

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

then we hope she does it soon and I let you know

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

short rest?

how do you figure? whole rotation moves back a day and everyone gets an extra day. Prices next start would be Thursday on 4 days rest…

by Jun on Jun 5, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is schedule for Wednesday vs the Angels

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

We had Shields, Price and Garza scheduled against the asshole Marlins

Now they get Niemann instead of Garza. Oh well

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

DID YOU KNOW

Ken Griffey Jr is currently in 4th place for AL OF all star voting

Selgy

by mittens on Jun 5, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least CC's going to pass him any day now.

"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."

by kericr on Jun 5, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

So
tboraysNew rotations: Price vs CC, Garza vs Joba, Sonnanstine vs Pettitte. Everyone likes to throw lefties at Rays…

Swav or Die
For the lulz

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

but hey, Longo should get all 3 games now

Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?

by joeybw on Jun 5, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

so what time will tomorrow's games be?

if i can’t see price v sabathia on my extra innings package b/c it’s a day game on a saturday i am going to be pissed…

by davidsmarch on Jun 5, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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