The Official MLB Draft Day One Open Thread
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 10:45 AM EDT
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PrintDraft starts today at 6 PM EST and will be streamed on MLB.com and televised on the MLB Network. Here are some links for your amusement and reference.
Baseball-Reference has a complete list of the top 110 picks and notable selections at each pick. Did you know that Mike Schmidt and David Wells were selected 30th overall in their respective drafts? 2009 MLB Draft Preview - Baseball-Reference.com
MLB.com has a ton of free scouting reports and video on the top prospects. 2009 Draft | MLB.com: Events
Baseball America's latest mock draft has the Rays selecting prep catcher Wil Myers, best case scenario is something like Brandon Inge with a better bat, but links the Rays to multiple players. High school outfielders Reymond Fuentes, LeVon Washington, Todd Glaesmann, and Jacob Stewart are mentioned. Meanwhile the Rays are also linked to college pitchers Garrett Richards of Oklahoma and University of Florida's Billy Bullock. Oh, and BA says that if Jiovanni Mier slides to 30, the Rays will select him. BaseballAmerica.com: Draft: Mock Draft: Mock Draft 4.0
Wil Myers again. Mock Draft " Andy Seiler's MLB Draft Blog
Speaking of BA, check out their list of the top 100 prospects. BaseballAmerica.com: Draft: Draft Preview: 2009 Draft: Top 100 Prospects Stats
And their draft day blog. BaseballAmerica.com: Blog: Baseball America Draft Blog
And their draft pick breakdowns. BaseballAmerica.com: Draft: Draft Basics: Draft Pick Breakdowns
Beyond the Boxscore has a nice interview with John Sickels up. Interview With John Sickels & Open Draft Day Discussion Post - Beyond the Box Score
And they've also got college hitter coverage. The 2009 MLB Draft's College Hitters Crop - Beyond the Box Score
College pitcher coverage. Stephen Strasburg and those other guys - Beyond the Box Score
Draft pick value coverage. Draft Pick Value Chart, Take One - Beyond the Box Score
And positional value coverage. Feeling a Draft - Beyond the Box Score
Don't forget my piece on drafting catchers either. Drafting Catchers - DRaysBay
Dave Cameron at the Wall Street Journal on drafting pitchers and the inherent risks. Drafting Pitchers Early Is a Dangerous Game - WSJ.com
And finally, old friend Kiley McDaniel will be hosting a chat on BPro today, starting at 4:30.
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Mock drafterbation climax!
baseball is played on a calculator in your grandmother's basement, not on the field
To what degree of each?
Couldn’t all glove, no bat infielders be found later in the draft?
So long, Sweet Lime!
Probably.
But Mier has some power potential. 10-15 homeruns.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess that's to say.
His bat is questionable, but it has some potential. I don’t really buy into the Nomar Garciaparra comparisons, but hey, our scouts know better than me.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Our scouts seem to be right more than they're wrong.
Friedman defers to them every draft for a reason. We’d have Lincecum and Posey otherwise.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Name that might makes sense but I doubt it: Poythress?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
May as well just take Marc Krauss in round 2 if he's there.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
So lets get some project players
could be good or bad, will fall a lot
their fun to watch, like Ty Morrision has a very iffy bat, cant wait to see how he does
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
I don't want to see a pitcher till Rd 5
and let’s draft a couple players who don’t have to start at Princeton
catchers, of'ers and we get a good 2B
thats what I want
if they are college players, thats just gravy, I want high ceiling at those positions
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
more like agreed
but my problems with you usually just stem from frustration
there are some people here I truely cant stand but I wont mention their names
and call me Joe or ill ban you, asshole
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
eh i needed 1 more letter when I registered
but Joey is def not what I wanna be called
which means now everyone will definatley call me Joey.
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
No, but his stuff is similar.
And his problems are too.
At 78 I would jump on that so hard.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
he looks like he will be good
ill take him to go
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
BA, via Gengler:
He routinely sits at 93-95 mph with life on his fastball and touched 98 in a relief outing against Wichita State. He has a mid-80s slider with bite that peaked at 89 mph against the Shockers.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Also.
Outside of a stint in the Alaska League last summer, Richards never has harnessed his wicked stuff on anything approaching a consistent basis. He has trouble throwing strikes and flies open in his delivery, allowing hitters a good look at what’s coming.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a power arm that could be in the BP by next year.
If everything falls right he could be a starter by the following year. Guys that throw hard with a hard slider and no clue where it’s going make good relievers.
Bullock is a reliever.
I won’t be happy if we take a reliever in the first round.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
No, 6 slashes together
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
98 out of the pen and gives the hitters a good look?
He may turn out to be a stud RP and never be great as a SP
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
I wonder
If there’s any chance we take Kyle Gibson if he slips down to 30. He could be a similar situation to Andrew Brackman / Max Scherzer / Joba Chamberlain – top 5 pick who gets injured, then slides because of the injury but still signs for top 10 money.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I don't want it, I just feel uncomfortable paying an injured pitcher top 10 money.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
If we're going to, it better be Gibson and not Scheppers.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, yes.
But let’s just not do it.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Can his money demands and agent get Crow to slip?
Talk about a steal at 30.
Before you say no, look what the Royals pulled off last year
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
I was watching the Tommy Joseph scouting report
“power that can play anywhere even if he doesnt stay at C”
Want….bad
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
Everyone is in here so I will post this here
CC has passed Junior and is in 4th for OF behind Bay, Ichiro and Hamilton. Hamilton may not even be able to play which should make CC a starter.
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
Probably not higher with Rays fans generally
Because there’s no #1 pick this year, but overall, certainly.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Picking low and the big club being good
have reduced the anticipation for me even though I realize the draft is as important as ever for the Rays.
baseball is played on a calculator in your grandmother's basement, not on the field
Agreed
My knowledge of prep and college baseball is practically non-existent, so I don’t know who any of these guys are. Mainstream coverage of the baseball draft will only get you familiar with about 3 or 4 players and after that, you have to dig around on your own, which I don’t do.
I actually feel that this draft is more important then previous drafts for the Rays. We’re so used to seeing the team picking top 5 that we’re used to getting the absolute highest rated prospects; but now 28 teams are picking in front of the Rays. I want the FO to show that they can draft great talent when the highest rated talent isn’t available to them by the time they get around to picking.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
Strasburg being hyped at a ridiculous rate is helping things.
Price never got this type of hype, and neither did Wieters or anyone in the last class.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course it's higher
Televised draft, in prime time.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I remember needing to stream a conference call to listen to the draft
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Old timer.
That was fun. Tommy LaSorda yelling into the speaker.
baseball is played on a calculator in your grandmother's basement, not on the field
Nothing worse than hearing Wade Townsends name called while listening to the conference call.
Then hearing Mike Pelfrey and Cameron Maybin called out as the next two picks.
Tools Whore
Ugh
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
So has the televised thing caused more people to cover it?
What channel/time?
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
6:00 pm, MLB Channel
Yes, I think so.
Just generally, there are a ton more draft resources now than there were a few years ago. When I started following the draft, BA was literally the only game in town. Now there are multiple blogs, PGCC, BP follows the draft, ESPN follows the draft, people actually know the players coming in, etc. It’s just immensely more popular overall since new media has come into play.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I agree there. I think the internet and related tools make the discussion and dispersal of information much easier.
How much of the increase in hype is due just to that and how much goes to the televised aspect? I don’t have the MLB Channel…
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
MLB has made an effort to market the draft lately
So I’m not sure how much of it is due to being televised this year, and how much of it is due to marketing efforts in general, but it’s getting much more coverage by the MSM this year.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
According to John Sickels:
A lot of players yesterday gave out their bonus demands, unexpectedly large bonus demands. Expect more of the high school guys to fall than previously expected.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Maybe we can glue Purke and Kazmir together and get a pitcher that can go 7 innings.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Marc Topkin has Elijah Dukes as the fifth worst draft pick in Rays history.
Hey look, he still can’t analyze baseball properly.
I don't read the Times. Erik just passed that along to me because he knew I'd react poorly.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
There won't be any money, but when you die, you will receive total consciousness.
So, you know, we’ve got that going for us.
It was a pretty horrible draft pick
Seriously, what did this team get out of Dukes? A half season of decent play, a sucky minor leaguer, threats from minor league affiliates to leave us, and tons of PR nightmares.
And to top it off, they KNEW about his emotional issues when they drafted him.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
But had they kept him, they'd have had an above-average OFer.
The fact that the Rays gave up on him is their fault, not his. It was a good pick.
Tools Whore
I disagree
Not much more that can be said. I think if he doesn’t get traded away from Tampa, he still has problems, and we still wouldn’t be getting value out of him. The collateral damage he caused was worse than the benefits he brought.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Here's the list of 74th overall picks.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?query_type=overall_pick&overall_pick=74&draft_type=junreg
He reached the majors and has been above average, that’s far more than most of those guys can say.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Still not worth it, and as it turned out, there was no way that the Rays were ever going to get the benefit of it. Just too much of a toxic environment in Tampa for Dukes to be there on a day-to-day basis. In DC, without those distractions, he’s getting his life straight. Good for him.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
And if the case against the pick is that he had some troubles.
Then perhaps the Stoned Ranger should be on that list too. And Delmon.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The difference
Is that it wasn’t something the club knew about beforehand with those guys. Josh Hamilton was good process with bad results. Delmon Young was good process with fan-fucking-tastic results. Elijah Dukes was mediocre process (they knew what they were risking and took the risk) with bad results.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Delmon Young wasn't an egomaniac before being drafted?
Really?
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Go ahead and straw man me some more
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Can you at least see where I'm coming from?
We disagree, and that’s fine, but there are multiple possibly right answers here.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
No, I'm a douchebag dictator, remember?
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry, you remind me daily.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Duke wasn't a 1st rounder, he was a 3rd rounder.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I didn't say he was a first rounder.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Yeah, but you can't compare it with 1st round picks in terms of risk/reward
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I understand that
I wasn’t the one who brought up Hamilton and Young, RJ was. I was just responding to him.
There was a risk involved in drafting Dukes, and the front office knew the risk when they drafted him, and they ended up getting the full brunt of both worlds – 1st round talent with an undrafted head. What makes it a bad pick is that, with this team, they didn’t get much of the benefit of the first round talent; instead, they just had headache after headache between PR gaffes, choking teammates, getting arrested, etc. etc. etc. The headaches were more trouble than the talent was worth, and it was obvious that it was never going to improve as long as he was still around his old bad influences, so the team had to trade him for pennies on the dollar. At the end of the day, I see it as a bad pick because of that.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I see it as a good baseball pick, bad PR pick, so mediocre.
But I can see your point.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Agreed
That’s 100% my point though. Just because it’s a good pick on paper, there’s more to being a GM than fielding a good team. At the end of the day, we would have been better off without the distraction. I’m pretty sure the new FO agrees with me here – they’ve focused on drafting players with a good head on their shoulders. No more of this Nick Fuller / Elijah Dukes BS. A player with a good head is more likely to overachieve anyway.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
It's not a bad risk in the 3rd round.
That’s not a cornerstone player, but it’s a potential All-Star and trading piece. The problem is we gave up on him too early. If we’d put him on some kind of rehab stint, or just stuck out with him at the MLB level for a few more months, we could have gotten major value for him. Instead, we gave him away for nothing.
I disagree there as well
But I see where you’re coming from. I don’t think this team could have salvaged anything from that relationship. As long as Dukes was in Tampa, he’d keep hanging out with his old gangbanger friends, and he’d keep getting into trouble.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Possibly. I'm not sure we really developed a system for him to thrive in.
Hanging around Delmon was not particularly helpful, either.
Not comparing Delmon you a gang banger, but that kind of arrogance rubs off on somebody like Dukes, who’s all ready amoral.
For a third round pick?
He’s one of our better 3rd rounders: LINK
He’s no Ed Koffer.
baseball is played on a calculator in your grandmother's basement, not on the field
Sure, of course
I just happen to think we would have been better off drafting a rock than drafting Elijah Dukes. Once again, I feel like he had a negative net benefit, once you consider all the other problems he caused off the field.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I actually agree with you
Dukes may end up being a solid consistent player, but for the Rays we lost more than we gained by drafting him. Foregoing that draft pick would have been better than drafting Dukes.
yeah Brickhaus is right
We would have been better off drafting no one. Thus, it is a terrible pick.
You judge draft picks by how they benefit your team, not by raw talent. I went to high school with Elijah (before he was kicked out for physically assaulting a teacher) and I could have told you he would be more problems than his talent was worth. And in the end the Rays agreed and shipped him off for next to nothing. Process sucked and results sucked.
Desmond Jennings had "character issues" when he was drafted
Granted, not to the extend Dukes did, but where do you draw the line?
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jun 9, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to do your research and talk with the guy a lot
Character issues come in all different flavors. I don’t know anything about DJ, but Elijah is a borderline psychopath. Obviously they thought it was worth the risk, they ended up wrong. Thus, bad pick. I’m not trying to say anything overarching here just that it was a bad pick.
I'm sure Elijah acts like a total nut when interviewing with potential suitors.
He probably threatened LaMar with a knife.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He stopped being polite and started getting real....MAD real
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Jennings turned out well and has had no further problems
Hence, it was a good pick.
I hate to say it, but a lot of the rationale as to whether a pick was good or not has to be, by nature, results-based. The process was still better for Jennings than Dukes though because (a) his history wasn’t nearly as bad as Dukes (he was accused of statutory rape, and the charges were dropped), and (b) it was a late round pick where you normally wouldn’t expect to get anything.
So as I see it, with DJ:
good process + good results = good pick
With Eli:
so-so process + bad results = bad pick
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
DUKES SENSE TINGLING, WARNING ME OF PEOPLE GIVING HAMILTON A PASS!
Until Next Time,
The Sports Chief
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 9, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
R.J. Harrison....R.J. Anderson....COINCIDENCE?!
Probably.
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jun 9, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions
Obviously.
RJ Anderson clearly hates tools and couldn’t deal with scouts.
Tools Whore
Question
What if we threw money at Strasburgh last year? Think he would leave college a year early?
Strasburgh – Price – Garza – Shields – Davis…….
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
Uh
Doesn’t work that way.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
he didnt allow himself to be drafted?
I guess I don’t have to deal with “what if’s” now
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
HS Senior or at least 2 years in college IIRC
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
3 years
Can draft:
High school graduate
1st year Junior college player
2nd year junior college player
college players 3 years out of high school (redshirt sophomores and juniors)
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
college players 3 years out of high school (redshirt sophomores and juniors)
Unless their 21 years old IIRC
In the mock, he went 18th
Still not sure why we drafted him in the 8th though. Everyone ans their mother knew he had a firm commitment to Vanderbilt.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
By The Way, this is why you sign your players
2002 Draft: Upton, Pridie, Dukes, Bankston, Hammel, DeBarr, Pelfrey, Ellsbury
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Also: Chris Leroux
baseball is played on a calculator in your grandmother's basement, not on the field
So I'm heading back to Wisconsin for the 4th of July and plan to attend a Madison Mallards game.
They are in the Northwoods League, I guess. I’m not sure if they have any decent players or not.
One name of note is Orel Hershier’s kid, Jordan Hershier. He’s 6’8 230 lbs.
Here is the roster LINK. Anyone know if there are any decent players on the team?
Jeter Sucks.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jun 9, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
Garrett Richardson the next Edwin Jackson?
Where do i sign?
That HS pitcher who threw 4 straight no hitters and is hard for Kazmir
Think he can be a late round pick by the Rays? (if he can be, I’m confused now)
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
he sucks.
He got away with it because of a goofy arm angle. High school baseball players can barely hit a breaking pitch.
His fastball isn't very good from what Law wrote a few months ago.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I read it topped out at 92
But the kid was a control artist. He looked like a beanpole on TV, so you’d assume that with age, he might be able to ramp that heater up a notch or two.
So long, Sweet Lime!
I wouldn't say he sucks...
But he didn’t look to impressive in the game I saw…
The Nationals are goddamn morons.
Washington was previously on Minor for the No. 10 pick, but if he’s off the board, expect them to select Stanford reliever Drew Storen instead.
They have to sign the player and Storen is good.
It’ll build good will with the fan base to have both first round picks in the big leagues by September.
Tools Whore
I would feel bad for them having to go cheap at 10 if they didn't sign Dunn during the off-season.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
I still can believe they couldn’t get a deal done with Crow. I’m not a big fan of Stan Kasten.
Tools Whore
And while I understand the idea of appeasing the fanbase.
Nobody is going to the park to see Storen. Nobody knows who Storen is. And if they do go to games to see him, it won’t be for very long.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Not many people go to the park to see anyone...
They could always trade the reliever to the reds in a couple years
wasnt there a rumor about 1st overall
How Strasburgh wants a ton and isnt 100% healthy and the Nats may actually pass on him?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
Like a couple months ago
But Strasburg is healthy. Some people have questions about his mechanics and think he’ll break down.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
mark prior mark prior mark prior mark prior mark prior
Which is fine, if you’re cool with getting two elite years out of a guy. The Nationals… not really in that situation, though.
You wonder if it’d almost be smarter to draft him, let him throw one year, and then deal him for other prospects.
I think Cameron said it well.
If the Nats are expecting more than 25 wins from Strasburg over the first six years of his career, they’ll probably be disappointed.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I would trade a ass load for him
and hope he isnt Prior.
I mean I would throw in my left nut to get him.
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Jeff Niemann 5. Andy Sonnanstine...... Coming Soon: Wade Davis......Scott Kazmir?
Hey Brick
Check your raysbb PMs
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jun 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Goldstein:
30. Tampa Bay Rays: This is new territory for the Rays, who haven’t picked below eighth overall for over a decade. Even when they were picking at or toward the top, they focused on tools and upside, and that won’t be any different at 30. This one is a reach, but Billy Hamilton, a Mississippi prep player who is the best player in his state in three different sports has been generating a lot of buzz with his pre-draft workouts. High school catcher Wil Myers is also in the mix, but it’s still a big mix with a lot of prep possibilities.
Pick: Billy Hamilton, SS, Taylorsville HS (MS)
via mlb.com
Comments: Hamilton is the quintessential high-risk, high-reward athlete at this level who is sure to interest many in June. A three-sport star in Mississippi, he’s got all sorts of tools, though his hitting approach is a bit crude and he’s got some holes in his swing. But the bat speed, strength and running speed would make any scout at least intrigued, especially if you think he can stay at shortstop. Someone will take a chance on that — and that they can sign him away from his football commitment to Mississippi State on Draft day.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Doesn't sound like the type that this FO likes to go after
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Sounds like a really poor man's beckham.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Eh.
Fielding: There are some who feel he’s destined for the outfield, others who think he might be able to stay at short, even though he doesn’t always seem natural there.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 9, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
DRaysBay has become self-aware
Run.
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jun 9, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
DRays Bay is building the Ultimate Baseball Intelligence
Capable of predicting production for each player until the end of time. Using calculators. Eventually, it will even send back data from the future on players impacting the game today. So we don’t trade any more Edwins!!
So long, Sweet Lime!
http://i.gizmodo.com/5284382/baseball-players-would-never-use-the-performance+enhancing-reebok-vector-o-bat
So long, Sweet Lime!
I'm waiting for Pitchf/x enabled sunglasses
So hitters can track the ball within a normalized strikezone and the code will process pitcher specific arm angle and speed to advise where to swing.
The Heater’s worst nightmare, IMO
So long, Sweet Lime!
Anyone else having problems with this thread?
I keep having problems where it won’t update or let me post.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I always have to reload the page after I post to get it to resume auto-refreshing
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jun 9, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
I’m getting the phantom response problem that RJ had earlier as well now
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
From Keith Law
Dustin Ackley, 1B/CF, North Carolina: Fellow MLB Draft blogger Jason Churchill says the Mariners are still waffling between Ackley and one other candidate, potentially Crow, and there’s concern Ackley eventually will ask for a bonus greater than that received by Pedro Alvarez. (That’s not crazy — he’s a better hitter than Alvarez.) It’s still hard to imagine them passing on the only really good bat in this draft.
I love how Law takes his opinions, which aren’t even opinions of the majority, and intersperses them into his writing as if it’s fact.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I agree with you
But I will give Law credit for this: Smoak has looked a lot better than Alvarez so far(he was the only one with Smoak over him last year, really). We’ll see.
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jun 9, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Sssssshhhhh--he's listening.
Then he’ll post and everyone will run to suck his cock in replies.
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jun 9, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not going to post here today
It’s his busiest day of the year.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Oh Dear
According to multiple team sources, several of the draft’s best high school players blew them away when they revealed their price tags. California lefthander Tyler Matzek, the best prep prospect in the draft, wants “precedent-setting money,” which is interpreted to mean that he wants to surpass the record $7 million guarantee for a high schooler given to Josh Beckett and Rick Porcello. Texas righthander Shelby Miller, previously believed to be signable for around MLB’s bonus recommendations, is asking for $4 million.
New Jersey outfielder Mike Trout (upwards of $2.5 million), Texas outfielder Slade Heathcott (upwards of $2 million), Florida third baseman Bobby Borchering ($2 million) and North Carolina catcher Wil Myers ($2 million) all want top-10-pick money. Oklahoma southpaw Chad James seeks $1.75 million. Previously, Missouri righty Jacob Turner and Texas lefty Matt Purke alluded to Porcello money, while Georgia outfielder Donavan Tate will cost $6 million or more.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Isn't the leverage now with teams?
There kids can’t stretch the signing period and then cost teams draft picks anymore. Don’t teams have significantly more leverage to avoid being bullied?
Request for mod
Could you please make a new thread? This one’s all kind of glitchy.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
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