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Ben Zobrist's Defense at Second Base

Ben Zobrist's UZR/150 at second base is 25.9. He's only played 400 innings there in his career, and ideally we'd have a few thousand innings to judge. Which means it's still far too early in Zobrist's career as a keystone member to assign that level as a reflection of his true talent. 

Zobrist played a little over 1,000 innings at shortstop and rated at -8.5 UZR. 6.1 of those negative runs were from errors, either booting balls, under/overthrowing the bag, whatever.  Zobrist's error rate is actually in the plus now, and his range is through the roof.  He's split playing time between the corner outfield and second base. While transitioning a career shortstop you would expect him to gain 5 runs defensively moving to second and 15 moving to right/left.

It's hard to tell whether Zobrist's error rate was true talent or simply a blip, so if you assume he was closer to -5 than -10, your second base expectations would be a completely average second baseman. Right now, he's on pace to be the best defensive basemen since 2002 by an entire 6 runs. That's highly, highly unlikely to happen. 

So, if we only have 400 innings instead of a few thousand, how should we project his defense moving forward? Well, by staying conservative. His age certainly does him no favors either, as range starts to decline after age 24. Zobrist is well past that point and is putting up absurd range rates.  Even assuming that Zobrist is safely a +10 defender is hard to do. Let's look at the amount who qualified at +10 over the last few seasons.

2008: 4

2007: 4

2006: 2

2005: 5

There's ~35 second basemen a year over four years, or close to 140 cases. Only 15 finished with UZR over 10. That's not encouraging. Maybe Zobrist is a true talent 10+ defender at second, but I wouldn't put money on it based off 400 innings.

I would keep expectations in the 0 < x < 5 (10 if you're feeling dangerous) range.

Star-divide

Of course, everything else that conventional wisdom said about Zobrist has been wrong. This is the one player I may as well throw my arms up about. What's he going to do next? Beats me.

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 21, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s hard to tell whether Zobrist’s error rate was true talent or simply a blimp

It was blimp-like in proportions.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jul 21, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe he was worried about his arm at SS,

so the move to 2B alleviates that concern. Now his true athleticism can take over.

by rglass44 on Jul 21, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, Soriano's like Kinsler.

The only time he spent at short in the Show was for utility purposes.

by Suttree on Jul 21, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hill ay be the closest comparison

career SS UZR/150 549 Inn = -18.9
-4.1Rng -1.2 Err

career 2B UZR/150 3785 Inn= 9.1
24.4 Rng R 5.8 Err/R

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 21, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Eckstein?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here are some guys that spent a good amount of time at SS and 2b

Felipe Lopez, Marco Scutaro, Clint Barmes, Brendna Harris, Craig Counsell, Juan Uribe, and Alex Cora

by td32 on Jul 21, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about looking at Tango's Fans' Scouting Reports

And incorporating those into Zobrist’s UZR ratings?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 21, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Another thing to consider....

Is that Zobrist hasnt been even spent a offseason working at 2nd base. It takes time to adjust and learn a osition. Going into this season, Zobrist expected to play all over and couldnt focus on any one position. I bet he would look more comfortable if he got to focus on 1 position…

by td32 on Jul 21, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I think thats exactly what we've seen as the year has progressed

He’s been making plays all along, but has bene looking smoother and smoother

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 21, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

As of right now

Zobrist does not understand how to play second base. But thats not really his fault because has barely played the position and will improve. As long as he continues to improve at the position I can’t see why he can’t be at least a guy who doesn’t kill us at second.

by gatoralex911 on Jul 21, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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