he is pretty good, although I imagine it will take more than just Kazmir to get him.

The Angels might not have the top-flight pitching prospects the Indians desire in return for Lee

are they pretty clueless over there about Clement right now or whats the vibe?

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/7/28/967257/clement-thread#comments

There was alot of buzz this weekend (as the DRB threads attest) about a Rays-Indians-M’s three-way deal with Brignac, Kazmir, Clement, Morrow, V-Mart, Lee, and a Tampa Bay prospect (if I have this right).

at least on a 10 minute basis.

UPDATE P0ST-GAME: Jeff Clement’s removal in the third inning was creating some buzz in the clubhouse as word filtered out, but no one seemed to know the significance.

Here’s what manager Don Wakamatsu said: “I just found out. I’m sitting here trying to get out of a four-game losing streak. If anything happens, I trust our organization in Jack Zduriencik’s hands. I don’t know any details beyond he was pulled,”

that we dont rent, we would extend them

but is there any way we can give Lee AND V-Mart deals? One would be nice at least. Please come to Tampa, guys.

I’m hearing it’s for LaRoche and Hudson
by Robert on Jul 29, 2009 1:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

According to a Tampa Bay source, the Rays are still working on getting catcher/first baseman Victor Martinez and left-handed pitcher Cliff Lee from the Indians, but it could wind up being a very complex deal.

According to another source, whose team is not involved, Tampa Bay and Cleveland may be working with the Los Angeles Angels on a three-way trade that also involves Rays lefty Scott Kazmir. That source said both the Indians and Rays had scouts present Tuesday as left-hander Trevor Reckling, a top Angels prospect, struck out nine and allowed one hit in seven innings for Double-A Arkansas.

It would appear to be difficult for Tampa Bay to add Lee and Martinez, since both players make more than $4 million this year and more than $5 million next year (Lee’s 2010 salary is a team option). Moving Kazmir ($6 million this year, $8 million next year) would help free up the needed money.

Perhaps Kazmir would go to Los Angeles with Lee and Martinez to Tampa Bay, which could use an offensive upgrade at catcher. Or Kazmir could go to Cleveland, Lee to Los Angeles and Martinez to Tampa Bay.

If we trade him, anyone think he starts going all Dice-K on the Rays?

wonder if anyone was scouting him.

I wonder if Friedman could say that with a straight face

By: Jason A. Churchill on 07-29-2009 01:17:11
Clement was indeed dealt, and with at least one other minor leaguer and as many as five players being involved altogether. I am not hearing anything about a 5-for-2, just five players in all.

By: Jason A. Churchill on 07-29-2009 01:27:36
There will not be any details until tomorrow. Go to sleep.

I don’t know a whole lot more than you right now. But a few names are out there that make it interesting.

I will say, it sounds like Jack is doing anything but SELLING.

http://prospectinsider.com/view/clement-pulled-in-3rd-inning?PHPSESSID=841f03cf85c74ec29721abf797d67e6f#comments

The Seattle Times’ Geoff Baker has “little doubt” that Jeff Clement will be traded after he was pulled from Triple-A Tacoma’a game on Tuesday.
Baker also thinks that Brandon Morrow could be a part of it. If the Mariners were to move those two in the same deal, it’d suggest that they’re going for broke. Clement alone could be traded for another youngster capable of helping in 2010 and beyond. The Mariners have obviously soured on the 25-year-old Clement, who has yet to hit in the majors and still isn’t much of a catcher.

for some reason those names keep coming up reading stuff from them.

36. By: Jason A. Churchill on 07-29-2009 02:00:49
It doesn’t sound like it’s a rental situation, no.

By: Jason A. ChurchilI on 07-29-2009 02:16:01
I have heard it is Jeff Clement and Brandon Morrow for Scott Kazmir.

By: Jason A. Churchill on 07-29-2009 02:26:38
Actually guys, I believe the site has been fooled. I did not post the above comment, No. 40.

I have NOT heard that.

All I know is that Clement was traded, and at least one, possibly two or three other minor leaguers are involved and that it could be a three-way deal.

51. By: Stormton on 07-29-2009 02:36:36
Some Phillies fan I know said he heard somewhere that it’s Morrow/Clement to Cleveland, Lee to Tampa, Brignac/Kazmir to Seattle.

Not a new rumor, but it does fit the 5 player criteria. Man oh man, that would be amazing.

52. By: Jason A. Churchill on 07-29-2009 02:39:31
That’s very possible, and a scenario talked about between two scouts at the Everett game Monday. They didn’t see how Cle could send Martinez AND Lee to TB and only get back Morrow, Clement, maybe some cash and a prospect from TB and one from Seattle. Without Martinez, the deal becomes much more feasible.

1. prospect for seattle according to BA 3rd rd pick from 08. Decent numbers, only 1 HR in 87 innings. Doesn’t sound like a very high ceiling but may make it as a back end guy or bullpen arm. Not sure what use he would have given our pitching depth in the minors but maybe Cleveland likes him? That assuming we are apart of this deal.

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/mariners/