Off-day open Minor League thread(Hellickson pitching)
by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 12:58 AM EDT
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Just because the Rays are off doesn't mean you can't root for an inadequate offense, since basically every affiliate has problems hitting. Anyway, it's an off day and there are enough prospects pitching(and I just bought an milb.tv subscription!) so that's worth making a thread. Your game times(EDT of course) and starters:
Durham: Doubleheader starting at 1:05, Jeremy Hellickson and Carlos Hernandez
Montgomery: 8:05 Rayner Oliveros
Charlotte: 7:05 Darin Downs(I think. Could be Brian Flores but I think he's just a spot starter).
Bowling Green: off :(
Hudson Valley: 7:05! Jason McEachern! On milb.tv!
Princeton: 7:05 Julius Dettrich
GCL Rays: 12:00 who knows? It might he Talbot's day to throw a few innings on rehab.
I'll be posting here periodically, mostly during the Hellickson/McEachern starts.
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I think the Crabs game is on Brighthouse
So lets hope its Downs pitching
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Talbot is indeed pitching for the GCL Rays
2 ip 1 h 0 r 0 bb 3 so
so far. He went 2 innings last time, we’ll see if they extend him.
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3 ip 2 h 0 r 0 bb 5 so
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Gets out of it with a strikeout with runners on 2nd and 3rd
Curveball looked nice
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin, did you ever get word on what Talbot's injury was?
It sure is good to “see” him back
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Something with his shoulder
Stiffness, not sure what it officially was.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It would seem Hughes should bat ahead of Sadler in the cleanup spot
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Radio guy called it a slider to strike Russo out
But it looked like a fastball on the inner half to me
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If that was the*
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Are u watching on milb.tv?
On Gameday its tough to differentiate between the fastball, slider, or change
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Yeah, but it's a small screen with not-great quality
The pitch definitely broke downward, the radio guy called it a change-up and I think he’s right.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how but I wish there was a way that Jon Weber could get a call-up in September
or at some point even if just for a game or two.
Yeah, Shelley Duncan made a nice grab on the warning track
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
SWISS STEAK?
What did he have last start, 15 swinging strikes?
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you can't tell movement on gameday, but it was real good in his first outing
I32, how does it look today?
The fastball is kind of straight
But he’s getting some swinging strikes on it. The curveball and changeup have looked really nice, but he’s not using them THAT often(Ben Badler’s writeup of start #1 including a quote from Hellickson saying he used the offspeed stuff too much, so I’m thinking he’s made an effort to use the fastball more.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Discussion question
Should the Rays limit Matt Moore’s innings? He threw 54 last year and is already at 91.2 in 2009. I don’t think shutting him down after 2 more starts would be the worst thing.
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Shutting down for season, or a stricter inning limitation
I don’t think there is much more for him to prove in the SAL so its not a bad thing
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Depends on how many simulated innings he throw, but I agree, any more than 115-120 and I'd be pissed
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
But remember, these guys are throwing pretty competitively in extended spring training.
So he almost certainly threw closer to that 90 inning mark than he did the 50 inning mark total. We just don’t see those listed.
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It got away from Jaso a bit. PB I think.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Deezy, TBex, Jeffries, Kang....Somebody?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Oh wait, briggy, duh. he's 2nd
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It's his first year as a pro. There are very few 19 year olds that don't make errors at SS.
It just doesn’t happen. There is nothing to worry about.
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Desmond Brignac Beckham
It takes a massive nosedive after that. Kyeong Kang and Reid Fronk probably.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeffries should be up there
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
.720 OPS from a 21 year old in low-A?
Meh.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
But he can catch! I believe in the power anyway, 7 HR
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I think I've read his arm is questionable but he is fundamentally sound
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He caught at a big program like Vandy, so I'd like to hope he can stick.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Isn't Jefferies from UC Davis?
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
btw, Where would you theoretically slot Velasquez?
Top 20?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He probably wouldn't make my top 30 tbh
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Disregard me, I'm just an idiot
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I like seeing some power from Mike Sheridan
.222 BABIP makes me sad though.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't know what a walk is.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He doesn't strike out either so maybe he sees the strike zone well
And maybe our coaches can get him to be more patient
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
If we're allowed to dig deeper
And this is small sample size, but Tyler Bortnick and Cody Rogers from this year’s draft have been nice.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He never learned how to draw a walk
And his power completely disappeared
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 5 draft picks were all hitters
Washington’s a contact/speed guy, Diekroeger has a high ceiling(not huge power, but still), Glaesmann is a 5-tool potential guy, Bailey is a good hitter, and Malm led the state of Nevada in home runs(remember, Bryce Harper plays in Nevada)
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Please, Please, please sign all five.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Diekroeger said he wasn't before the draft
But it’s probably 50/50. Malm was considered a tough sign, but he’s expressed some interest in signing.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If we sign 4(Let's say LeVon/Diek/Glaessman/Malm), would you take that?
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Probably. I want Bailey though. In order of how much I want them to sign
Bailey
Malm(can really hit)
Glaesmann
Washington
Diekroeger
We’d get comp picks for not signing Glaesmann, Wash, Diek of course, that plays into it.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and 15th rounder Pierce Johnson
sign him
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we will get some offensive prospects this off-season
Bartlett, Pena, and Crawford all could be moved and they will bring in a decent haul.
+15 defense in back to back seasons, good OBP skills, works the count real nice.
I think the Gabe argument has been put to death, but he’s a very average player, but a great platoon partner and certainly worth while as a 4th outfielder.
I would imagine Joyce starts next year.
Did he throw another pitch?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
17th rounder Alex Diaz has 1 walk and 23 strikeouts in the GCL
Bad news: He’s a hitter.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It's so tough to read the GCL
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=l_tba&lid=124
Look at that, it’s such a pitcher’s league.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just going to say something about that
6 guys in our starting line-up have averages of .200 or worse.
This is our first year with a team
Meaning we brought a lot of guys stateside from DSL/VSL teams that aren’t very good to fill out the roster.
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope as long as it isn't brignac for Doumit like someone was suggesting
if we give up Brignac we better get Martinez back in return.
Aberdeen doesn't archive their milb.tv games
So I won’t be able to watch McEachern for HV after work. Alex Colome yesterday looked great though.
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7 ip 3 h 0 r 0 bb 9 so
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Confirmed that the Stone Crabs will be on Brightouse 47 at 7 PM
Crabs website has Downs as the probable starter
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Being thay Carlos is in AAA, thats right in the Indians wheelhouse
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3 ip, 1 h, 0 r, 0 bb, 5 so
for McEachern so far
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