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"I just kind of got tired of people brushing him back," Garza said. "It's about time someone made a statement. They did it on Monday night and we didn't do anything, they didn't do it too much (Tuesday) and (Chamberlain) did it again tonight.

Welp, hopefully MLB doesn't do something like suspend Garza. It's not like he adm...dammit Garza.

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Hit someone in the arm with a slider...that's a 5 day job!

They should have plunked Cano’s ass his last time up last night after showing up Garza

by Jason Collette on Jul 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Or A-rod

I get tired of yankee fans talking about how good they are since A-rod returned. It gets annoying.

Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you

by 4QB on Jul 30, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least they aren't making shit up

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Cano should have gotten it between the #‘s. And if Garza gets suspended it would be a joke. 5 game suspensions don’t really hurt starters though.. probably even less with the off day next week.

by RivalsTees on Jul 30, 2009 1:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hopefully he gets a 4 game ban that starts today.

These bans for pitchers are useless unless they exceed 5 games since they arent starting anyways.

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by Buc Wild on Jul 30, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh no! Davit Ortiz took steroids?!?!?!

WHAT WILL SIMMONS TELL HIS KID?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

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Let's work together to combat Terminal Rocco Disease.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 30, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

That his teams were the poster children for bending the rules to gain an advantage

and he couldn’t have been more wrong on his assessment that Ortiz didnt touch the juice.

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by Buc Wild on Jul 30, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he?

Maybe i read it wrong or am remembering incorrectly. I thought in his “reverse jinx” Ortiz column, he was in the NO PED’s status.

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by Buc Wild on Jul 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

From his Ortiz column (emphasis added is mine)
The steroid whispers started quickly. By late April, every conversation I had with a Sox fan seemed to include a “We need to mail Papi some HGH” joke. It was an easy leap for a couple of reasons: First, his power numbers leapt like Obama’s Q rating from 2003 to 2007. Second, he’s Dominican, and more than a few of his brethren — Sammy Sosa, Miguel Tejada, Guillermo Mota — have been in the center of PED controversies. Third, they sell steroids over the counter in the DR like they’re Bubblicious. And fourth, baseball has reached a depressing point in which power hitters are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

When Manny Ramírez was suspended for trying to jump-start ovaries he didn’t have, many Sox fans (including me) assumed we had our unhappy answer for Papi’s demise. We braced for Ortiz to be linked to a bombshell headline that began with the words "Former Sox Clubhouse Attendant … " But one thing nagged at me: He wasn’t belting bombs that were dying at the warning track like so many other former ’roiders. He just looked old. It reminded me of watching Jim Rice fall apart in the late ’80s, when he lost bat speed overnight the way you and I lose a BlackBerry. That was painful too.

By mid-May, I was pondering another theory: Maybe Papi was older than he claimed. In Seth Mnookin’s book Feeding the Monster, he recounts the story of how Boston nearly blew the chance to acquire Ortiz because they were concerned that he was much older than the media guide said. GM Theo Epstein asked Bill James to study Papi’s numbers, and when James concluded the peaks and valleys were consistent with a man of Ortiz’s stated age, they rolled the dice. The rest is history.

Well, what if James was wrong? How many Latin players have been exposed for lying about their ages in the past few years? Hell, one of Papi’s best friends — Tejada — was found to have cut two years off his birth certificate when he was 17, er, 19 … you get the point. Watching Papi flounder now, I’d believe he’s really 36 or 37 (not 33) before I’d believe PEDs are responsible. In a recent game in Minnesota, he couldn’t catch up to an 89 mph fastball. Repeat: 89 mph!

That’s what happens to beefy sluggers on their way out: Their knees go, they stiffen up, bat speed slows and, in the blink of an eye, they’re done. Beefy sluggers are like porn stars, wrestlers, NBA centers and trophy wives: When it goes, it goes. You know right away.

So that’s my theory. I think he’s old(er).

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by Buc Wild on Jul 30, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re-reading this makes me laugh even more

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by SRQman on Jul 30, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it being naive or just dumb?

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by Buc Wild on Jul 30, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little of both?

Don’t you think if he was “older” by now they would know? And that is really pulling an excuse out your ass IMO

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by SRQman on Jul 30, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he was that naive,

He, like most fans, probably talked himself into that.

If someone floated an idea that Longo or Upton had juiced before the ALCS/ALDS games when he was on fire, I’d talk myself out of that real fast. I wouldn’t want to believe it.

Probably a bad example.

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by Buc Wild on Jul 30, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really care about the whole steroid stuff....

So it’s whatever to me. I just am gonna enjoy making Red Sox fans who care about it more depressed.

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by SRQman on Jul 30, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a fair example.

There’s a lot of stuff to shit on Simmons about, but he wrote that column from the perspective of a fan who went through a lot of shitty Red Sox seasons, witnessed his team finally win the World Series in the most spectacular fashion by trumping their arch-nemesis, and now he’s having to reconcile that it might be tainted.

I’m excited to see him stick a gun in his mouth now.

by Suttree on Jul 30, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never read that article and it I think it's more recent

I was basing my comment on this article where he doesn’t actually say it, but pretty much admits it.

I always imagined pointing to that 2004 banner and telling my little boy, “That’s the team that changed everything.”

So that’s what I do. I point at the banner and tell him, “That’s the team that changed everything.”

“Isn’t that the team that cheated?” he asks.

My father and I glance at each other. A few beats pass.

“Well, technically, no,” I stammer. “I mean …”

“I thought they had a whole bunch of steroids guys on that team,” he says.

“Well, there have been some accusations, and yeah, some of the power numbers were a little suspicious, but …”

(then skips to Papi)

 “And what about Big Papi?” he wonders. “Played for Minnesota, didn’t hit for power, came to the Red Sox, turned into the best slugger in the league, and as soon as they cracked down on steroids, he stopped hitting homers again. And he was friends with all the other Dominican players who were linked to performance-enhancing drugs. What about him?”

Silence. Nobody says anything.

Finally, my dad steps in: “He had an inside-outside swing at Minnesota, when he came to Boston, we encouraged him to pull the ball, so …”

“Come on, Gramps!” my son says. “That’s dumb, and you know it.”

We glance out to the field. Big Papi is one of Boston’s coaches now. After he hit 54 homers in 2006, his career was over within four years. Now he’s just a fat guy in his early 40s coaching first base. You would never guess this is the same guy who carried us in 2004, the guy who fueled the Greatest Comeback Ever, the guy who helped convince an entire fan base that, yes, we could believe.

by nolesblogger on Jul 30, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait

until it’s released that PtB is on that list. At least that way this season will make sense.

by RivalsTees on Jul 30, 2009 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

/ducks

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 30, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

12:38pm: Harlan says it's a stiff neck, not a trade.

Oops

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there goes my stiff dick

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by SRQman on Jul 30, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are a disturbing man

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 30, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

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by SRQman on Jul 30, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Garza is very careful with his words here..

he never admits to hitting him on purpose. The majority of his statement is about what the Yankees’ pitchers did to Evan.

Then again, I’m not sure what the question was that preceded his statement. I guess it could be bad if the question was, “Matt, why did you hit Teixeira on purpose?”

Boom. Outta Here.

by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 30, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno

I still have the pic of his haymaker on cocoa puffs from last year on my fridge.

by RivalsTees on Jul 30, 2009 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Like Urlacher called Cutler a pussy?

then the radio people?

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by SRQman on Jul 30, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his message was

Quit robbing us of hits, asshole!

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jul 30, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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