Hellickson came mostly advertised, but with a better changeup than scouts had described last year. Hellickson delivered 90-92 mph fastballs, touching 93 once for a swinging strikeout. He spotted the pitch well, working both corners of the plate while rarely leaving a pitch down the middle plate or missing up in the zone. His repeatable delivery had minimal effort with a stride directly toward home plate.
Baseball America (sub) on Hellickson, the narwhal of Rays pitching prospects.
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Narwhals are very sacred creatures to the Eskimos
And their tusks are believed to have magical properties in some arcane cult circles. It’s technically illegal to harvest their tusks.
I can kind of see where RJ’s going with the analogy.
So long, Sweet Lime!
I don't think liking Fleetwood Mac is ban worthy, but only if you pre-face it with:
“I really liked them more with Peter Green, but the poppy stuff isn’t bad!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc
it would strike fear in the hearts of hitters across the world
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I have now lived my life to the fullest and served my porpoise
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how it's twit first, confirm second
Irresponsible journalism is irresponsible
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The only thing better than seeing the Red Sox lose
Is seeing them lose to a crappy team….3 days in a row.
4 gamer and they won the first night
this is still awesome though. I love how all the analysts on ESPN talk about how good the Sox pitching depth is, but 4 of their 6 pitchers really arent that good.
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno about that.
Beckett and Lester are clearly very good, and better than anything we have.
Smoltz is getting hit unlucky. His FIP is 3.61.
Wakefield’s hittable, but he’s an above average pitcher. 4.01 FIP.
Brad Penny’s been solid. 4.31 FIP – that’s about the same as Garza.
Dice K sucks.
Buchholz should be good if they ever give him a run of game.
For comparison.
Shields: 3.99 FIP
Kazmir: 5.08 FIP
Garza: 4.01 FIP
Niemann: 4.20 FIP
Price: 5.64 FIP
Sonny: 5.10 FIP
Our pitching's been bad this year.
But, I could see Shields improving slightly, Kazmir making a big leap – he’s been good since being Peterson’d – and Price improving. Hopefully Niemann settles in as a 4.3 guy.
Still, the Sox own the edge by having a true ace, supposing his back doesn’t give out on him again.
No I was just saying their pitching is a bit overrated
With how weve pitched this year, I definitely give them the edge. But aside from Lester and Beckett do any of them really scare you? If we have a rubber game of a big series and they dont have Beckett or Lester on the mound I think we have the edge, regardless of who is going for us. Assuming Kaz continues to pitch somewhere close to what he did the other night and Price turns it around
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see how it's overrated.
They can trot out six above average MLB starters. That’s good depth.
Their depth is great but I think we have a great chance to win when facing 4 of their 6 pitchers.
To me that doesnt say “best rotation in baseball”. Which is what ESPN says all the time and the only reason I said they are overrated.
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not what you said above.
“I love how all the analysts on ESPN talk about how good the Sox pitching depth is, but 4 of their 6 pitchers really arent that good.”
Don’t change your argument mid-debate, Raymondo.
Well I misspoke
because I didnt mean to insinuate that their depth was poor, but their pitching staff isnt as talented as people make it seem. Really my first argument just didnt make sense because if you have 6 legitimate arms to throw out there, you automatically have good depth.
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Seles'd?
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It's unfortunate
My pre-teen brain feasted on her grunting.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Athletic, confident women, that know how to smack a ball around?
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we talking about the same Monica Seles?
I always check for the adam’s apple since that one time.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I found out on Manswers
that you cannot tell from the adams apple. The usually remove it. So you have to check if “its” forefinger is longer than the ring finger. In men they are even, in women the forefinger is longer.
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
does forefinger mean index finger?
Sounds like you are speaking from experience brah
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
"Brad Penny’s been solid. 4.31 FIP – that’s about the same as Garza."
This is where FIP and I part ways.
So long, Sweet Lime!
2:44pm: MLB.com's Ken Gurnick reports that the Dodgers acquired George Sherrill for Josh Bell and righty Steve Johnson.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Josh Bell can hit. He's pretty good at baseball.
I don’t have a scouting report on Johnson, but his numbers look very good.
Tools Whore
They got Elbert too I think.
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If they go Elbert, oh my what a haul.
Tools Whore
Colleti's not this dumb, is he?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Colletti is dumb
look at all of his fantastic free agent signings
"I want to live in a world where a solo homerun in the 2nd inning counts as much as a solo homerun in the 8th."
Colleti's not this dumb, is he?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Edes reported that, but apparently it's Steve Johnson not Elbert
whoever that is
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So blame Gordon Edes
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 30, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Danys Baez?
Jim Johnson? Jeremiah Johnson?
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Johnson?
I have Sherrill on my fantasy team so I need to figure something out
He pitched well last year he just needs to throw more strikes
Admittedly, I know poo about the O’s. You should ask that delicious fox Stacy Long over at Camden Chat what her thoughts are.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No way
She speaks so well.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you pretend to be a girl too?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
you take off your bit and bridle...
So long, Sweet Lime!
by PlayOnWords on Jul 30, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so you pretended to be neither a chick or a horse
but a willing and male recipient of yard-long, spotted e-quine dick.
So long, Sweet Lime!
Who said there was pretending going on
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough of this bullshit I'm going to see Rusted Root downtown
FOR FREE bitches
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't do drugs
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Was this your attire
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
evidence that suttree was the victim of a terrible hotel peephole video catching him in the act of horse cosplay
on the internet.
So long, Sweet Lime!
DO NOT WANT. FUCK, I JUST WENT BACK AND SNAPSHOTTED THIS AND ADDED TEXT BECAUSE OF YOU.
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Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
GOD DAMMIT FUCKING SBN
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
BECAUSE HORSE CYBERING IS THE BETTER OPTION?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
calm down everyone. he's not hurting anything but his own ability to excrete solid foods.
So long, Sweet Lime!
this article ended up a whole different animal
So long, Sweet Lime!
by PlayOnWords on Jul 30, 2009 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why are you upset about that?
This is your usual window of opportunity. Giggity
by BJ the Bossman on Jul 30, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I very much like this deal for the O's.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 30, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell's nickname is "Baby Kemp".
He’s got some wicked power potential. Oh, and he switch hits.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 30, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That Bedard deal has to be the worst I've ever seen
They could have easily traded Putz when his value was highest and slid Sherril into that role. Putz would have gotten them a good young arm that would probably be doing what Bedard isn’t doing right now. Plus they’d still have Jones.
Yeah but where would Jones play with Griffey in that outfield?
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Bill Bavasi once told Dave Cameron
He didn’t sign Carlos Pena (but did sign Carl Everett) because: “We know Everett can bat fourth.”
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 30, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow that is bad
I’m guessing the underlying premise was the Everett had a larger history of consistent slugging at the time of Pena?
Did he get banned? Didn't see him on banned list.
www.bucem.com - SBNation's source for all things Buccaneer
His original post wasn't that bad
I kind of agreed with the premise. But when he started saying ERA and WHIP were the greatest thing since mini skirts….
Yes I read it.
ERA and WHIP useless? USELESS!!!!!????
I found this site and at first it seemed like it had some half-intelligent Rays fans, but I guess I was wrong.
Wow. You two remind me of Billy Beane. Statistics can only get you so far. Stick to ERA and WHIP. There is no need to get into sabermetric stats. Save those for your fantasy teams. I bet Aaron Harang had good sabermetric stats 2 seasons and prior to that. And now he doesn’t because he’s doing bad. Those stats are used to point out why he is doing bad, and how he will fare in the future. No one predicted he would do terrible last year, and he did. Then people predicted he would turn it around this year, because of good sabermetric stats. Guess what? He didn’t.
Kid, you shouldn’t make statements like that when you know they are untrue. At 19, I am at least twice your age.
this blew my mind bc
when has RJ mentioned his age? maybe in a random gdt. so this guy couldn’t have been new. unless rj isn’t 19, but underrayted seemed confident of it.
So long, Sweet Lime!
Stick to ERA and WHIP. There is no need to get into sabermetric stats. Save those for your fantasy teams
This is funny because ERA and WHIP are pretty much only used in fantasy.
Jeter Sucks.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jul 30, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
3:22pm: Kovacevic says Grabow and Gorzelanny to the Cubs is almost done, while Chris De Luca of the Chicago Sun-Times says they closed the deal.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Their turn to get raped by the Pirates
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
VITTERS!
*I guessed right on Alderson!
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Which even further blows my mind on why we aren't trading Wheeler and Shouse
If teams are really valuing these pitchers that highly then lets flip ours.
Yes. But that was for Freddy Sanchez! ALL-STAR!
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Hendry hasn't made a bad move in a while, has he?
Thinks back to Bradley
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
You make fun of Bradley when we offered him and signed Pat Burrel.
All while scoffing at Raul Ibanez.
Tools Whore
I understand he didn't make sense for us,
He’s still going to be a 4.5 win player this season and easily be worth his contract over the life of it.
But the larger point is he’s making fun of the Bradley signing when Burrell has been worse than Bradley on the season.
Tools Whore
There's still Giambi
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could have predicted Ibanez would have a career year at 37
And that his Home Run rate would jump from 10 to 24%
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
You couldn't.
But again, you make fun of the Bradley signing when Burrell has been the worse player.
Tools Whore
You can make fun of the Bradley signing because it was unreasonable to expect him to play OF
Without getting hurt.
Also: to be in the same clubhouse as Piniella.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 30, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't honestly think even the Cubs thought he could play 155+ games.
Fact is, they don’t live in the same budget world we do and if they could get 130 games out of him, which he could still do, while getting somewhere between an .850 and .900 OPS with an outside chance he exceeds that, it would be very much worth it to the team.
Tools Whore
Chase Utley and Pujols are dead even in WAR
How has this not been brought up?
Zo 0.2 behind them.
So long, Sweet Lime!
Pujols gets a ton of runs taken away for playing first, even though he does it capably
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 30, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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