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Tampa Bay Rays Pass on 2009 MLB Trade Deadline

These past two trade deadlines have reminded me of Robert Frost's poem Fire and Ice. Burned by Boston and Jason Bay last year, my expectations were weighed down by reminding myself there are no white knights at this point. Victor Martinez, Cliff Lee, even modest options like Gregg Zaun, Carl Pavano, and the pyramid of semi-useful relievers. Instead most probably felt frozen out. Lots of rumors flew, few involved the Rays - Mark Lowe and a "just checking" call on Felix Hernandez - which, let's be honest, doesn't mean Andrew Friedman, Gerry Hunsicker, and Dan Feinstein weren't working the phones left and right, but I guess the presence of rumors acts as pleasant background music like to some.

After Bay, I wrote that we were getting Rocco Baldelli back and calling David Price up, and by golly we weren't going to miss the playoffs. This year, I wish I could write with such confidence in the destination. As I wrote a few days ago, the playoffs require luck. Lots of it. Gun to my head prediction: we won't make them. It's too bad, because this team is easily one of the five best in the majors, but that's reality.

Now, we can all go mope about how the Rays didn't try or how the team is going to play awfully now - I guess the front office told them a few weeks ago not to expect any moves? - or you can enjoy these next few weeks of baseball. For right now I don't care about WAR or playoff probabilities, simply as a common fan I'm begging you to not give up on the season because of what did and did not happen this week.

Fall will come soon enough; don't wish a season gone because of your illusions.

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It's gonna be a fun last 1/3 of the season

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Time to get in Knife Fights with sox suckers.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 31, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I just use my mitts

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck knife fights

2nd Amendment those fuckers

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh God yes

welcome to the ALE Vic

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish this thread would perish twice

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Things to remember

Sonnanstine, Davis are still a call away.
Rays can still make a deal in August and our waiver claim will come before Boston or New York unlike last year.

Fernando Perez and Akinori Iwamura could be back by late August.

Sept call ups should include Joyce, Brignac, Jaso (if not sooner).

As R.J. pointed out the offense isn’t this bad.

Maybe just maybe Scott Kazmir…

None of these are Victor Martinez or Cliff Lee, but it’s better than 1998-2007.

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by Tommy Rancel on Jul 31, 2009 4:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

We shouldn't even have trade rumors for this team

its inevitable that we do nothing anyway. Bet we don’t even see Wade Davis up this year……friggan waste of time talking about potential rumors and of course the Red Sox have to do everything in their will to block people that the Rays mildy want.

"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey

by Gone Phishing on Jul 31, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't be that guy

Nobody likes that guy. It’s going to be a sweet rest of summer regardless. 4.5 out of the WC, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we got this shit

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look I know I shouldn't be

But we don’t need blockbuster trades, just something of an improvement anywhere. Its just discouraging that we talk talk talk and nothing is done.

"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey

by Gone Phishing on Jul 31, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean like playing up to our potential?

For 2 months our pitching was awful, then for a month our batting was awful. Imagine when it comes together tonight in Kansas City. Shit is about to go down

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what I said

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I love my Rays

I hope Victor Martinez tears it up (assuming we have no chance) for Boston. Maybe it will send a message to the front office. They keep bitching about poor attendance, but imagine if we had Bay and Martinez on our roster. You can’t expect to draw fans when there’s no national star power coming to town.

by FiveAce on Jul 31, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

No Fuck Boston

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid Logic

…do you really consider VMart “national star power”

"I want to live in a world where a solo homerun in the 2nd inning counts as much as a solo homerun in the 8th."

by RaysnNoles on Jul 31, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

vmart is not and never will be worth what they were asking for

and I hope you shrivel up and die for, firstly, saying we have no chance, and second off, rooting for Boston even when we’re out.

by Navi's_Navy on Jul 31, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The front office hasn't done enough to earn your trust?

This team has like half the payroll of Boston. Whine about that, not the front office.

by Sky Kalkman on Jul 31, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's amazing, isn't it?

That and calling V-Mart/Bay national star power. Yes, guys from Pittsburgh and Cleveland really draw the ratings.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well then I guess there's only one thing left to do.

What’s that?

Win the whole fucking thing.

Yeah.

YES!

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Jul 31, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Especially if you're an uncreative middle-aged sportswriter

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost as good as Almost Famous

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost Famous is the new millenium caddyshack

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU LEAVE CADDYSHACK OUT OF THIS

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

BE THE BALL LMAO

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the 8th day he created Rodney

and it was good.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen RJ

People…we’re over .500. We’ve played 102 games, and we’re not 30 games behind. That’s fucking HUGE. If even a year and a half ago you had said “The Devil Rays will be in the top 5 of the AL” people would have laughed.

We’re not doormats anymore. Far from it. And we have the season series lead on the Sox at this point, and we’re only 4 games out of the playoffs, for pete’s sake.

Let’s roll. No whining, no giving up.

by Thaddeus? on Jul 31, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

We gotta win it for the West Siiiide

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats it.....

Its time to destroy the competition…….and Sonnanstine better get back in the rotation. He pitched 8 innings of 4 hit, 2 run ball against the SWB Yanks and he looked good (cause I was at the game).

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by Gone Phishing on Jul 31, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Let me get a hand clap for the Tampa Bay Rays!

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

TAMPA

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAY

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If come Sep 1 if we're 8 GB in the WC

i want to ssee Davis, Joyce, Hughes and maybe Johnson up here along with the additions of Aki and Perez

by Raymondo on Jul 31, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

You will see them regardless of where we are in the standings

"I want to live in a world where a solo homerun in the 2nd inning counts as much as a solo homerun in the 8th."

by RaysnNoles on Jul 31, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So let me get this right

You want to bench Zobrist, Upton and the Gabes

"I want to live in a world where a solo homerun in the 2nd inning counts as much as a solo homerun in the 8th."

by RaysnNoles on Jul 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait for Shawn Riggans to come back from Durham

i’ve been waiting

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by Gone Phishing on Jul 31, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

So you're saying that Ricky Oh could defeat Price?

Not bloody likely

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think you're reading that right.

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad guy crushes head

Bad guy represents Dave Price
Ricky Oh killed bad guy
Dave Price would destroy Ricky Oh, that’s your logic fail

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 31, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we have a good ass kicking tonight

then some Aybar free stylin at Flo Rida

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh thats good

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

You surprised?

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is to minimize my image posts

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Jul 31, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait a minute, this is a 4-Chan thing? GOD DAMMIT

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

You just got that?

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a non-faggot, I wouldn't know

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought you knew

I told my friend and he told me

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is 4-chan

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

K looked it up myself

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

or are you over 15

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

So what does it mean that it is a 4 chan thing?

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO DON'T

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

OR ALDAILY.COM FOR GODSAKES

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to sports

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

left immediately

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO DON'T

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean /b/

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

DON'T DO IT

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Won't

but will you explain

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's 90% child and/or cartoon porn

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously naive,

how do they get away with posting it?

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 31, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that what this Strike Witches bullshit is?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 31, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only visit /a/

/shrugs

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 31, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to come up with a new Price nickname

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 31, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Tupac of pitching

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by SRQman on Jul 31, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think people forget that it was made clear to us at the beginning of the season that we didnt have the money to do what we might want

for the RedSox this deal was passable because they have the money, but Vmart is not good enough to warrant dumping even Kaz for cash. I’m happy this deal didn’t go through, and people who are complaining need to realize that their expectations were out of line from the very beginning.

by Navi's_Navy on Jul 31, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

We could still win 90 games

but the Rays are toast unless NYY or Boston start getting injuries. The rich keep getting richer. Bad day to be a fan of the little guy!!

by sofladude77 on Jul 31, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with you in every particular.

I also think the Rays intention is to have a team that contends-or at least competes-for at least 7 years in any 10 year cycle, with in-between years devoted to rebuilding. We are at the beginning of the cycle of contention, and I don’t think they will waver from that approach by bargaining away the near future to bolster a long shot try at a flag. I think had the Rays been leading the division or the wild card race, or maybe even within a game or two, they might have gambled, but at 41/2 games back, the risk was too great.

In addition, I still think this is a good team, and one that can contend even this year, although as you say with quite a bit of luck thrown in. The Rays may yet do some sort of waiver deal, but I don’t think they will trade away anyone of value unless they are in closer striking distance of the playoffs.

by bobr on Aug 1, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions  

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