7/4 GDT: Tampa Bay Rays @ Texas Rangers
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
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Tampa Bay Rays at Texas Rangers, Jul 4, 2009 8:05 PM EDT
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Tonight's game is pretty important
NYY are just rolling and BOS has lost again, Rays can’t afford another loss & another poor road trip because now the Rangers are ahead in the WC also. Ground & momentum need to be made up starting tonight. (I think the Giants stole our offense)
Time for Price to only need 297 more wins to go
by Transplanted on Jul 4, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i have no idea what to expect
I guess thats why the games are played
happy 4th
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what is going on
I am afraid to do…..anything at this point
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Longo in the lineup again. hope he doesn't have a set-back.
by walkoffwalk on Jul 4, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least Barty is finally out of the 8 hole
BJ CF
CC LF
Longo 3B
Pena 1B
Zobrist 2B
Burrell DH
Bartlett SS
Kapler RF
Waste of space, a lot of space C
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Navi is worse than a pitcher in the 9-hole.
by walkoffwalk on Jul 4, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you mean Sonny, that is actually sad but true
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even when i play with navi on the show he is terrible
he throws the ball away at least 2 times every game.
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i went a week with him
just like a real life, i knew he was an out right away, Russel Martin is now my awesome C
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What should I watch? Sun Sports or MLB Network?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd watch MLB network in hopes that ratings would increase and get more national exposure...even though one person won't make a difference
by walkoffwalk on Jul 4, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I am gonna take a day off from blue balling Statts and idiot Kennedy and watch MLB Network
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure even
Hopefully Magrane is one of them
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nvm, I remember MLB Network has a bottom line that blocks stats and shit
ill watch Sun Sports
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and is it only me and walkoffwalk here?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize Longoria was in such a bad slump
.053/.143/.053, 1 for 19 with 0R no XBHs 1 RBI & 2 BBs but only 6Ks
He needs to take like the series after the road trip off to heal up
by Transplanted on Jul 4, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
his D has gone from great to "ok" als
Willy should play a few games at 3B
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at those empty seats. Texas is not a baseball state.
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Texas has 0WS Rings
Florida has 2
by Transplanted on Jul 4, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy 4th!
God we have to play another game with these ugly red hats?
by Rjw123 on Jul 4, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Winless in the red hats.
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dunno why we did yesterday
but that makes me think tmw also
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we lose today
and wear the red hats tomorrow, I will be tweeting Maddon about this!
by Rjw123 on Jul 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAY! But um....
How is that not a triple CC ???
by Rjw123 on Jul 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should've had hindsight.
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you get a hit please Evan
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was he out?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who is at DH? Davis?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
funny look by Kinsler on the strike
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like that
do it more
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
K then BB
yep, its Price
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They all looke like
Little Fred Dursts.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you know blue is a patriotic color too
Can we have blue plz?
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although, as a commie
I approve of the red somewhat.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck it. I'm going to go blow some shit up.
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck, I loved the 1st batter also
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DP for DP plz
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AAA for Price please
Jason McEachern tracker: 17 ip 11 h 2 er 0 bb 15 so 1.06 ERA
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another great 1st inning
im gonna go break irreplaceable things
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if you actually expect Price to go down, it will be Sonny not Davis
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't.
He needs to work through his issues, even if it means a guaranteed loss ever 5 games. He has to much talent not to get it working.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please tell me our bats actually came today
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate to do this, but fucking fire Hickey
There’s no reason for pitchers this talented to suck this badly.
Jason McEachern tracker: 17 ip 11 h 2 er 0 bb 15 so 1.06 ERA
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this should be blamed on Navi/Price
change ups worked so well so he stops using it
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PTB weak out? no wai!
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did anyone else see the "steriod list" of 2003?
I know its not true, but damn a lot of the names on there are really interesting
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know a player on the steroid list of 2009
He just hit a dinger.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
andruw jones is a huge canidate for steriods
jesus, look at him when he got in from when he started to get injured. 50Hr’s to nothing?
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But yeah everyone on the 2003 list
Are definitely suspect, even if it is a fake.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
def.
Im curious to see if a list comes out before any of those guys are HOF eligible, will the writers let them in. You cant not let one guy in because of it and let another guy in when he did the same
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like bagwell
i wouldnt doubt if biggio did it too
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really doubt any of those guys will get into the HoF
PEDS shouldn’t keep you out of the HoF. Plenty of guys that did peds in there already.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you def. contridicted yourself there
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of those guys put up a body of work good enough for the HoF
They were all flash in the pan players, because of roids.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They used to pass out amphetimines in the clubhouse like their were candy
in the 50s 60s and 70s.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not pretend hank aaron wasn't popping greenies.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And after the 70s when the US government made them illegal they did this
“For years, players satisfied their needs in pill and liquid form. In many clubhouses, one coffee pot was labeled regular and the other “hot,’’ meaning the java was spiked with amphetamines.”
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barty!
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait until we package CC and Bartlett for the entire
SF Giants farm system.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh yay Navi gets to lead off
Price, for gods sake, shut them down here
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For fucks sake
throw strikes
Jason McEachern tracker: 17 ip 11 h 2 er 0 bb 15 so 1.06 ERA
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 4, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I NEED K OR WALK NOTHING IN PLAY
and then a meatball and it gets crushed
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you think we could get a top notch reliever for Price?
by Rjw123 on Jul 4, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this will end well
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
price needs to stop getting on facebook so much and focus on his command
i mean i see him and porcello on all the damn time
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only guy I trust here is Garza
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah at home
but here, only Garza
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cormier is up
I may warm up Niemann but Cormier hasnt pitched in a while
That’s it, 2 more runs and im gonna watch a sad movie and cry
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to fire bomb h2's
Rednecks like fireworks right?
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like we sent the wrong guy down
Kap-rilla???
by Sveet on Jul 4, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
think Sonny would be shutting them down?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone tell me what Prices pitch selection has been to this point?
TIA.
by BrokeBearMountain on Jul 4, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I got it
Garbage 95%
Lucky calls 4%
Good pitch 1%
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, but still...
anyone have the actual count?
by BrokeBearMountain on Jul 4, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to register
firejimhickey.com
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem with Price appears to be
that he sucks.
Jason McEachern tracker: 17 ip 11 h 2 er 0 bb 15 so 1.06 ERA
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 4, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell isn't his fastball at 97+?
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texas has a slow gun
Holland throws just as hard as Price….
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jul 4, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his change looked awesome
and he hardly used it after owning Kinsler
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
trying to control it
slowing down everything including his motion and not repeating it. His AS is different almost everytime on a FB
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus look where he lands after pitches
it reminds me a lot of kazmir before he got sent down. When a pitch is outside he doesnt follow through and finish so the ball gets released too early
by Jombari on Jul 4, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hickey needs some serious time with him.
Maddon needs to jump all over that. The guy is falling apart.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a great outing
wow
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kennedy's team doesnt have Halladay
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kennedy is freakin clueless
Not starting Ichiro in the outfield?
by acablue on Jul 4, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Hunter has showed such power!
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is he so terrible when hes off?
He cant just be bleh, he has to suck horribly
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our pen is great
Price sucks
I cant feel confident in a Kaz or Niemann start
lame
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Lincecum really is a freak.
And price is just a prospect with a lot of physical talent.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was really hopping he would be our lincecum
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping you havent already considered him a bust
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No but it is obvious he is a few years from being able to harness his physical talent.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he is more like randy johnson then we want to believe
Randy didn’t turn it on until his 30s.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
confidence in his change and a better pitching coach could fix him
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Navi can get a double, our guys have no excuse to start hitting hard
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alright
keep it going CC
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dont be useless, Evan
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Price will be sent down to AAA I bet
or to BP after this game
by NoGimmicks on Jul 4, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ill take the bet
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please tell me we are capable of scoring more runs then two
in two games at texas. Thought we were supposed to be the best offense in the league.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
new nickname til hes healed is Mr. 6-4-3
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMFG Longoria is limping to first
Why is this guy playing right now Seriously!!!
by Rjw123 on Jul 4, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is totally frustrating.
Especially when you’re trying to figure out if its a kid thats not ready, or a pitching coach, or just a bad game, bad pitch selection… the first thing you want to jump at is Hickey and assume thats the issue but its so hard to measure a pitching coaches performance, especially with two of our pitchers seeming to do well, but others struggling. Feh.
by BrokeBearMountain on Jul 4, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hickey has a history of making pitchers worse or pitchers getting better as soon as they leave Hickey
Of course you can’t look at just one or two pitchers and you can’t look at talent level. The fact of the matter are pitchers get worse with Jim and better without Jim. It doesn’t matter if it is Shawn Camp, Taylor Bucholz, Jason Hammel, or soon to be David Price.
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have something to back this up?
I thought the two bits of research on Hickey here showed that guys managed to stay about the same, with some improving ever so slightly and some getting a pinch worse…
by BrokeBearMountain on Jul 4, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overall pitchers got worse
Essentially I found a statistically significant (95%) worsening in pitchers FIP when they are with Hickey compared to without Hickey. I also found that on average pitchers saw a worsening of FIP year over year with Hickey. The significance of this wasn’t as strong as the p-value was like .15 or so.
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/7/4/938240/david-price-and-release-points
Jason McEachern tracker: 17 ip 11 h 2 er 0 bb 15 so 1.06 ERA
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 4, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evan needs to be benched for like a week
he just looks terrible at the plate
by Transplanted on Jul 4, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im watching Office Space
I believe you have my stapler >>>>.. Getting embarrased
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
trade all these bums for Justin, Haren, Parker, and Snyder
by bums I mean all our positional players [except BOSSMAN and Zobrist] and Price and Niemann.
I’ll field:
LF: Joyce
CF: BOSS
RF: JUSTIN
3B: Willy
SS: Briggy
2B: Zobi
1B: Richard
C: Snyder
DH: Jaso.
Rotation:
Kaz
Haren
Shields
Garza
Sonny.
and Parker is a top 20 prospect maybe top 10
by daveh33 on Jul 4, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But Longo
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,good news
is that barty is out of his 2 game hittting slump
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does los tyring to swing at everything?
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rallyjw
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do the Navicopter
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Navarro
Saving the day.
Don’t worry navi, the haters gonna hate.
by putupyourDUKES on Jul 4, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good thing i lied and never stop watching
lets go guys!
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Price’s ML debut(no walks in 5.1 innings) is on the left, today’s abortion(5 walks in 1.1 innings) is on the right
Jason McEachern tracker: 17 ip 11 h 2 er 0 bb 15 so 1.06 ERA
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 4, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i replied to your fanpost too, and his release points been in that same spot all season
so it hasnt just been tonight, even in the start where he walked nobody against the rockies his release point was there
by mslowins on Jul 4, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I'm a moron...what does this mean?
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the coordinates of where he is releasing his pitches
one is a bit higher than the other
by Rjw123 on Jul 4, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it means his release point has shifted up between this year and last year
but i dont know if that shift necessarily means anything
by mslowins on Jul 4, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's tough to say anything for sure
but his control has sucked this year, and the release point is, at the very least, different.
Jason McEachern tracker: 17 ip 11 h 2 er 0 bb 15 so 1.06 ERA
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 4, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he could just still have to adjust to a change in his release point
or he could just not realize he’s doing it
by mslowins on Jul 4, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did...did Navi just do something good?!
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a walk yesterday 2 XBH's today
odd, ill take it
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was he taking it easy or does he really run like that right now?
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT, EVAN GOT A HIT?
He did it at the wrong at bat
by Transplanted on Jul 4, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maddon said
fuck u, navi- if you don’t hit today, you are going to AAA.
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ill show you ill go with Michel and injured Riggans!
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos K-na
don’t know how to make a squiggle over the n.
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Jul 4, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bottom of the order has all 4 rbi's
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess to be fair, our best hitter is towards the bottom
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pena Struck out..... ? Didn't see that coming
/sarcasm
by Rjw123 on Jul 4, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanna ask Price something
“Who do you think you are?”
and stop there
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The top prospect
in the rays organization
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does he THINK so?
Its actually a important question
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i mean
even if you grade the rays farm system-now, you aren’t going to find many prospects that can match price’s physical talents.
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know hes the best
But is he confident enough to say so? Could be the issue
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"whats this shit, im not gonna catch this"
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck this stadium
Why would BJ need to go to the wall on that swing
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our starting pitching has been so bad this year
I thought it would be a strength this year but so far it has been our only weakness
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*cough*Hickey*cough*
Jason McEachern tracker: 17 ip 11 h 2 er 0 bb 15 so 1.06 ERA
www.raysprospects.com
by Imperialism32 on Jul 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
P Brady is home with a 2nd degree burn on his thumb
what I miss?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I drink the Price kool aid but he really was so awful
I dont know how you can have his talent and do……that
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly strike throwing is a part of talent
If he can’t throw strikes then he literally has no talent. Right now he is a bad pitcher.
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok Bradford is garbage
I want Abreu back
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im trying out trolling
but im not liking it
Rotation: 1. James Shields 2. Matt Garza 3. David Price 4. Scott Kazmir 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Jul 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's much better when you make it known you're being sarcastic.
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Price sucks...I want Seth McClung back
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is Mos Def on the mound?
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm suprised nobody got this.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Jul 5, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it just didn't care to comment
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 5, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Hickey needs to go ASAP
Perhaps he doesn’t make the pitchers worse. The evidence is really strong that pitchers do in fact get worse under him. However perhaps it is another reason or just crappy luck. The thing is there is absolutely zero evidence that pitchers improve in any way under Hickey.
So what is the upside and the downside? Getting rid of Hickey is all reward and zero risk.
The worst thing that happens is that Hickey had no effect and the decline was due to another reason. Then the same problem would take place under the new guy. No difference.
The best thing is that the new pitching coach actually makes pitchers better.
Frankly its a no brainer for that reason. Tons of upside and no downside.
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess having to pay extra would be the downside
Performance wise there is nothing bad that could happen.
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want maddon
to take more control of his pitchers though, I mean if hickey is the reason, then he definietely needs to go.
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we hire
Nolan Ryan as our pitching coach
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's likely an awful coach.
As someone stated elsewhere, expecting the same arm elasticity as he once had in everyone is a great way to blow out arms.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know any other
hall of fame pitchers we can hire now??? Greg Maddux?
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember when price had a dominant slider?
good times
by Schmidt on Jul 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It looks like a 89 mph cutter now
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO NO NO NO
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THE FUTURE IS IN!
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our pen would be exhausted
now
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and where were you?
you missed our hickey/price discussions
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Screw this game and hickey and our failpen implosion
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good news
is sox lost today??
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's only one way to beat the rangers
you need your pitcher to SPIT FIRE
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Marlon Byrd & Andruw Jones
such a dangerous 3/4 combo
by Schmidt on Jul 4, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Willy
Boots Time..
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fail
boots hates us
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beej
Screw you texas pen
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IT'S THOSE FUCKING RED HATS
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GOD BLESS NEW ZEALAND!
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Umm
Explain!!!
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do we only have one walk against texas pitching?
by walkoffwalk on Jul 4, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
today
we decided to be less patient and guess what we scored four runs??
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats up with Maddon's supposed Twitter account?
Is that real because I can’t find it
Kap-rilla???
by Sveet on Jul 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats the username again
I can’t find it when I search
Kap-rilla???
by Sveet on Jul 4, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RaysJoeMaddon
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what am I doing wrong. I can't find it
Kap-rilla???
by Sveet on Jul 4, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i cant find it either
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Jesus, Maddon.
As always..looking for good energy tonight. Our guys r very good coming back ready to play the day after a loss..
I would ban him for chatspeak if I could.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow R.J. you are so cool
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long until you go back to college?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop reminding me
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's some good news...i guess..
Rangers’ Triple-A affiliate rained out tonight, meaning Josh Hamilton’s rehab assignment is extended and Rays won’t see him this wknd
/lancaster’d
by walkoffwalk on Jul 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's too bad.
I bet that gets under Hammy’s skin.
Like needles.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fireworks aren't the only thing that blow on the 4th
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Price'd
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's colder than withdrawal
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Tony: I guess its time to find out:
Do fireworks scare 12-month-olds? All theories will be debunked/proven tonight. Boom!
Matt Garza on his famous Count von Count impression:
"One strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out Ah ha ha ha"
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 4, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Niemann's homerun rate is regressing this year, let it happen tonight.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Niemann regressin to his true greatness
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How P Brady burnt his hand
My dad tripped me while I was lighting a fountain and the sparks scorched my fucking hand.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw, The Treasure Island fireworks were fucking amazing this year.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kitty ^_^
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could call him Crispy.
Or Fleshy.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like father, like son
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell no
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a horrible person.
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his dad is great
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up rebulblican
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
republican
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 4, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot wait until people use this outing as 'proof' that Niemann would suck as a reliever.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well technically he is doing far better with swinging strikes tonight
I’m not impressed with Niemann period. I think he will be a below average starter with the Rays but can be an average reliever.
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he has a great ERA!
Or had.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And somehow his homerun rate actually goes down.
What the fuck.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Sonny...
He must be pissed. He has a strong argument that he is the third best starting pitcher in the Rays org and a slight argument for 2nd.
Yet he is sitting in the minors.
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They have pizza delivery in Durham.
And I’m sure he gets Everybody Loves Raymond too.
He’s halfway to his Tampa life.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if he hits the bull, he wins a free steak
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The girls are much hotter there too
Life isn’t too bad. Just no Evian
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
However I want the Rays to do everything in their power to win
That means putting the best team on the field. That definitely includes Sonny.
by matthan on Jul 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason, I have Damon Buford's B-Ref page open in Firefox.
I don’t remember opening it.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait a sec
Guardado is on his way to striking out the side… WTF
Well, he struck out 2 in an inning… that ain’t supposed to happen
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jul 4, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JUST JAM TO IT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx-eSzZCMpo
Swav or Die
For the lulz
by SRQman on Jul 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
