7/5 GDT: Tampa Bay Rays @ Texas Rangers Part 2

Our SP just hasn’t been good, especially the back end. I’m pretty selfish and I want to win this year. I’d rather have Wolfe than Price or Niemann and quite possibly Kazmir this year.

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions

We have bartlett, so we don't need beckham (who might not work out anyway), and Jennings is an unjury risk, plus we just traded for joyce

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by P Brady on Jul 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 5, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Not worth arguing on those guys

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Talent is not an issue with our SP

It is development and consistency. Plus when we trade players we are going to get some sort of return on them. I’m sure some of that will include some high upside SP

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Tell the three SP we just faced that

i’m really wondering if some of our guys are MLB quality

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah three so so pitchers have just shut us down

I’m not sure what that has to do with our depth. We have the talent. Its just a matter of development and maximizing their value in production or trades.

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions

We have tons of talented SP

in the minors, but by the time they get here, say bye bye to Carlos, Carl, and others

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions

A team like the Rays are going to cycle through players

Just because we lose one guy doesn’t mean we aren’t going to replace them with a stud.

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions

You guarantee that?

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes

We have nothing to worry about. You can make an argument this year (and possibly next) will be our best shot at a title, but we will good for awhile.

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions

You have to remember almost everyone we lose will bring us something good in return

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Say hello to first round draft picks.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Here's the problem RJ

you guys are young and hopeful. ionce was myself, but here’s what happens, you get tired of hearing ‘wait tikk next year’

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions

We were in the World Series last year

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly my point

i was in CLE in ‘95 & ’97 and fans loved their young team and players, and guess what, they haven’t been back since

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions

We won the ALE with a 40 million dollar budget.

That’s basically a WS title.

We did something that wasn’t heavy on luck.

Yeah, WS winners get rings, but winning the ALE means just as much to me, if not more.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 5, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions

So what would make you happier

Winning the ALE 3 times in the next 5 years
Or winning the World Series once?

by Rjw123 on Jul 5, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions

ALE.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 5, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Do me a favor RJ, ask the players

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions

We all know what the players would say.

That’s not the question.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 5, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I gave you my answer

and you disagree

ask Brave fans about winng divisions

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm well aware that I'm in the minority.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 5, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions

in here you may not be

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions

ask Indian fans about winning the ALC

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions

But the playoffs is kind of a crap shoot right? the more often you get there the better chance of winning the WS

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by P Brady on Jul 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Braves are 1-14

Indians are 0-7

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Gamblers falicy

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by P Brady on Jul 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions

What about the Yankees and Red Sox the last few years?

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 5, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Interesting...

I know this would be more fun year after year. But I have to go with the WS win

by Rjw123 on Jul 5, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions

World Series

we already won the ALE and AL pennant

i’d bet the players would say the same

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Winning the AL pennant was great for me last year

but as we all know it takes a bit of everything to repeat

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Sonnanstine has more MLB success than Garza.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 5, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions

FOr sure

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Garza is no shining example

i now seriously doubt he’s ever a star

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Doesn't need to be.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 5, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions

have we lost yet?

by putupyourDUKES on Jul 5, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions

Morally

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by P Brady on Jul 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 5, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions

So moon was okay.

by putupyourDUKES on Jul 5, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Those are not words that make sense to me in that order.

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by P Brady on Jul 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 5, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Moon was okay, no?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey Navi

You are no Vlady Guerrero. You have swung at pitches 6 ft high tonight as well as 1" high

Dockoftherays.com

by Jason Collette on Jul 5, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions

Navi should just be sent up to the plate wearing a blindfold

It would be entertaining.

by GvilleRay on Jul 5, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions

he couldn't do worse

by b-rad270 on Jul 5, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions

3 fucking hits--c'mon

by Raymondo on Jul 5, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions

Bad AB beej

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions

Did morgan just call upton aggressive?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 5, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions

Blacks are aggressive

by matthan on Jul 5, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions

This is ridiculous. Losing to a bad Rangers pitching staff with the GREAT Hunter,Holland and Feldman in their rotation.

Garza looking terrible each of the first four innings the leadoff man is on base and result of a run scored. BAD PITCHING WITH BAD DEFENSE don’t forget BAD AB’s. HOLY CRUD Double Play on a line drive or soft liner.BAD BAD BAD!! I have a bad filling that Maddon is managing to get to the All Star instead of managing the Rangers, Blue Jays and A’s series. This year, when I see Hickey come to the mound, it winds up to be disaster. Hickey has to go. Overrated pitching coach.

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