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Oh Navi, Navi, Navi



Prior to last nights game, I was brainstorming for ideas for articles this week. After the second game of the Marlins series, I wrote a piece on the Marlins decision to walk  Dioner Navarro with runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs in a tie game in the 8th inning. A brief tidbit at the end mentioned how predictable Navi plate appearances (in his case at-bats are synonymous) had become. There was a real pattern to taking strike 1s and swinging at everything thereafter.  That article can be viewed here: http://www.draysbay.com/2009/6/27/927699/intentional-walk-to-navi. 13 of 17 strike ones were taken while there were 26 swinging strikes of fouls after strike one to just one called strike.

As I was brainstorming, it had dawned on me that Navi had 2 walks on this road trip headed into last night, and was coming off a game with a home run and a double, his second multi-extra base hit game of the season. I figured it would be a good idea to look at his pitch f/x data from the road trip to see how his approach had been prior to strike 1, prior to strike 2, and with 2 strikes. The numbers were looking slightly better. Sadly this article turned to mush after Navi swung at 7 pitches clearly outside the zone last night after chasing just 5 in the previous 5 games. How much of this can attributed to his slugging spectacular the night before, I do not know.

Below are the charts that, alas were shattered last night:

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Road Trip Prior to Last Night:

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 So Until last night Navi had 18 swings in the zone to only 5 outside the zone. Additionally on all pitches following strike 1, Navi took 13 balls while chasing outside the zone 3 times. That was certainly improvement over recent weeks.  A lot of zone pitches he did swing at, were excellent pitchers touching edges that he would have been better off passing on, but it was a start. Then he had two extra base-hits, and then last nights hackjob occured. Here are the final charts for the road trip:


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So thanks, Navi. 17 pitches, 11 swings, 7 swings out of the zone. I tried to stick up for you with another DRBsuccess story. Rethink your processes and realize that maybe it was your approach that helped with the multi-extra base hits rather than your swing.

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Why can’t you hit the ball, fatty

by BrokeBearMountain on Jul 6, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Navi could learn how to stop fishing for pitches

like you’ve learned to use charts, he would be back to being an All Star. True Story

by Buc Wild on Jul 6, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Raymondo, just might be the biggest pissant I've ever run across

You came into the Tribe forum blathering about the GREAT signing of Pat ’the splat.

It was ME who told YOU of his horrible #’s vs the AL, and it was YOU who spouted it was a small sample size. But now you tell all your buddies here, you brought it up..HAHAHA. I have NEVER seen a bigger tool in my life than you.

by 27ftBaja on Jul 6, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You are wrong about one thing

No one here is his buddy. Astute take on the last line, though.

SOSH AUCTION to K ALS

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 6, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little note on my stalker friend 27ft

He’s a huge Tribe fan, no problem with that, but also believes Ryan Garko is a great player based soley on RBI’s

nuff said

by Raymondo on Jul 6, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just get it straight R.J

you can defend him all you want, I don’t care one way or another, but when he beings in YOUR hard work into the Tribe forum and takes credit for it, I draw the line. You can have the phony, or what most consider him, a TROLL.

by 27ftBaja on Jul 6, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

People steal articles without sourcing?

:O

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 6, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, we ban people for that here.

But he hasn’t brought any of your work over here for us to criticize. I wonder why that is?

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Jul 7, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I was on the "Let's not trash Navi so soon" train early in the season.

Of course, I assumed his plate discipline would have returned and he would have been an average offensive catcher. Whoops.

by Suttree on Jul 6, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was on that train too.

But that train crashed. Stupid Amtrak.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Jul 7, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

Perhaps we should point out that Retarded Manning Brother pointed this out long before gave up hope.

SOSH AUCTION to K ALS

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 7, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, no, no. He gets no credit.

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn occasionally. You say enough people suck long enough, and eventually it’ll turn out correctly.

by Suttree on Jul 7, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Longo hits too many home runs!

Why can’t he be more like Bartlett? GOTTA MOVE THAT RUNNER OVER!

by Suttree on Jul 7, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not coming back, BTW.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Jul 7, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sayeth Pat Burrell's dog

Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla

by FreeZorilla on Jul 6, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't see this

But I’m guessing it’s the leave britney alone guy.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Jul 6, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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