Dan Wheeler Slides Into Success
When Dan Wheeler relieved J.P. Howell in the 11th inning of tonight's game with the score tied and the Jays three best hitters coming to the plate I'll admit that I was a bit nervous. However, I wasn't as nervous as I usually am when Cardiac Dan steps on the mound. I've written many critical posts of Dan Wheeler this season. Lately it seems like Wheeler has taken those posts to heart.
Tonight, Wheeler pitched two innings of perfect baseball, keeping the score tied long enough for the Rays struggling offense to score the winning run. Wheeler needed only 21 pitches to make it through those two innings, picking up his third win of the season, and genuinely looking good in the process. He threw his fastball 10 times on the night, recording a strike 80% of the time. His best pitch on the night looked to be his slider, which he threw 5 times while again recording a strike 80% of the time. It's this pitch that I want to focus on.
In 2007 and 2008 Wheeler threw his slider 16.3% and 10.9% of the time. This season Wheeler's slider usage has jumped to an eye popping 27.2%, while his fastball usage has dropped from 68.1% to 52.9%. That is an enormous jump and I'm not exactly sure to what it should be attributed. I'm assuming it's something that pitching coach Jim Hickey has actively been trying to get Wheeler to practice, but whatever the reason it seems to be working brilliantly. Ever since the June 6th game at Yankee Stadium in which he allowed two runs in 0.2IP, Wheeler has thrown 12.2 innings, allowing no runs on six hits while not walking a single batter. I'm not saying that throwing less fastballs and more sliders is the only reason for Wheeler's success, he is throwing his change up nearly 8 percent more than last season, but something has obviously been changed in his whole pitching process. Its only 30.2IP of data to look at, but so far his peripheral numbers(LD, GB, FB%, etc) aren't deviating too much from last season. While his BABiP is up to a more realistic .247 from an unsustainable .202, his K/9 is at it's lowest point in six seasons(6.28) yet his BB/9 is lower than it's ever been in his carrer(1.88).
Last season you could look at Wheeler's first half numbers and see that a major regression was sure to come. With his seemingly totally changed pitching philosophy, I don't think the same can be said for 2009.
* the picture of MVB has no relation to the story, I just wanted to use it somehow.
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But but but but but
They say pitchers must establish the fastball! I’m all for misinformation as long as the players get the real message.
I'm not sure about other recent games
But yes, last night 5 of his 6 outs were flyballs.
by Erik Hahmann on Jul 8, 2009 8:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The slider also has been its most effective since 05 when he last used it 27% of time
Yr….wSl/C..%Usage
05…3.86…27.4
06…0.35…28.8
07…0.09…19.3
08…0.28….16.1
09…1.78…..27.3
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Also worth mentioning in June he finished with a GB/FB of 1 his best # in the past 2 years
Previous best was .73, usually in the .5’s.
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The ability to throw quality strikes is the key
for ant pitcher, and the opposite actually not throwing them at all has plagued most of our SP
Really?
More ground balls means less homers? Who knew.
by Erik Hahmann on Jul 8, 2009 9:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wanted to keep it within his time with the Rays.
by Erik Hahmann on Jul 8, 2009 9:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hear ya
its just good to see him replicating some processes he had when he was the Dan Wheeler of the low 3 FIPs.
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Zo can you research overall pitching
in the AL this year v last?
It sure seems like it’s down all over
It really was neato mosquito to be sitting there and only worry about WHEN we would score
6* inning game!
- - only if you are James Shields
So long, Sweet Lime!
His FIP is at 4.02.
That’s a bit lower than last year, and it is likely somewhat due to his low (8%) HR/FB%. If he keeps pitching the way he has of late, then we may be able to move his contract in some kind of deadline deal. That would be nice.
or Talbot.
I really want to see him in the pen in the near future. We could cut bait on him, but I doubt we’d get all that much. I think he’d make a very, very good reliever that would be cost-controlled for 3 years.
What is the fascination with him?
And if nothing else he’s shown to be a very poor 1st inning pitcher, just what you want from the pen
That was his downfall this spring, and i doubt they want to test it
I may be wrong, but he’s your typical journeyman RHP, the likes of Doug Waecter
Dougie Waechter wasn't a terrible reliever when he finally went to the pen.
Also, his family is quote wonderful – all 300 of them.
I was about to say this.
Also, Dougie had a 4.21 FIP in 63.1 IP for the Marlins.
If he didn’t have injury problems, he’d hang around as a middle reliever. Talbot’s a superior talent – not elite level, but certainly good enough to be a middle reliever, if not a high-leverage guy.
Talbot this year at AAA
K’s down
BB’s up
They have better bullpen arm in the minors then his
Too many to count
Gorgen, Satow, Raferty, Hinkle—all have better arms and are pitching out of the pen now
Even Mason might be better
How are any of them relevant to this conversation?
Have they been to Durham yet?
So long, Sweet Lime!
Ugh, right now you would cal those guys up first?
Talbot would dominate A ball
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What the hell does that mean?
Like they look better with their shirts off?
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not really, the question was who would perform out the pen right now better than Talbot.
None of those guys are nearly as qualified.
Guess again, here it is from above
Who’s a better BP arm in the minors?
see my semantics post below.
the conversation was about who would help the bullpen immediately, and while it wasn’t clearly stated, bringing guys up from A-Ball to replace Wheeler obviously wasn’t part of the discussion.
WHAT?
Are you kidding? None of those guys has pitched above A-ball. They are all relief pitchers in A ball. That does not equal better pitcher than a very good AAA pitcher. Quit being retarded.
You asked for 'better arms'
I assume that means better stuff, aka K/9 etc
I know these guys aren’t ready, but they are more enticing than Talbot
You didn't care for Talbot's 2.81 FIP at AA?
HE WAS A BETTER ARM BACK THEN
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Apples to Oranges
I like some of those names t0o and look forward to how they do at the NEXT level.
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I know what i see
Talbot got the same chance that kid got last night from the Jays
Who looked better?
You have this vision that every pitcher needs to throw 500 innings at minor league level to succed, when it simply isn’t the case
Do as you wish
The Tigers have force fed a few arms, and they seem to be holding up
I just feel Talbot is a journeyman RHP, that’s all i said
Is that so bad?
That opinion in itself is fine
I disagree, but you are entitiled. It was comparing his arm to A ball arms that got me befuddled based on K/9s.
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That's cool, make no mistake i love this team
I just checked Talbot’s K/9 in ‘08 and it’s ok
As you know, i’m in love with power arms, the more the merrier, or the ability to SO hitters. I just see Talbot as one of these guys who ‘nibbles’ and i hate that type of pitcher
This (Nibbler Talbot FB 91.6)
Satow mid 80s fastball with a / change that fades.
Gorgen low 90s fastball and mid 80s cutter
Hinkle low 90s with a good slider
Rafferty from Baseball Americas Draft Bio:http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2008state.php?st=Ariz.
As they tired, fifth-year senior Tommy Rafferty emerged as Arizona State’s most effective reliever, though he’s more of a command-and-control college pitcher than a pro prospect. His best pitch is his solid-average changeup, which may have the potential to be a plus pitch, and he touches 90 mph with his heater.
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You know,
power arms.
SOSH AUCTION to K ALS
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
When has he shown to be a "very poor 1st inning pitcher?"
The “fascination with him” is due to his being the best pitcher on the Bulls staff the last two years.
Year, Age, Level, FIP
2006, 22, AA, 2.81
2007, 23, AAA, 4.00
2008, 24, AAA, 3.03
2009, 25, AAA, 3.55
He’s a very good pitcher.
How do you figure?
He hasn’t gotten a shot at being an MLB pitcher, so how can you say that? Classic 4A pitchers probably make pretty good relievers (see Howell, J.P.).
Crawford, Hellickson and Gross?
If we get Justin we keep them both
I'd do it in a heartbeat.
No way they would. More liek Kazmir and Crawford. I would probably do that too.
just for you, buddy:
“We’ve already got a decent squad, many of whom are going to get better. We can push to finish in the top six if we improve our away results.” – Harry Redknapp, 07/08/09
So long, Sweet Lime!
Harry's a fucking liar and you know it.
He’s been rolling around in the sack with Perez for weeks, just ready to pounce on whoever Madrid tries to sell.
Also, he’s gotta convince Martin O’Neil that Villa sucks now and should give us Ashley Young.
The rest of them are at their banks
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 8, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh my gawwwwwwwwwwsh
RD over and out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Bitch, please.
Talk shit about the Yid Army when the Emirates sells out for 50 years despite only moderate on the field success.
Or when Arsenal purchases a player who’s own agent doesn’t arrange a deal with Barcelona after only half a season with the club.
That deal is a falsity
and the agent is only still around on a legal technicality.
So long, Sweet Lime!
I want Melo so bad
But it’s looking unlikely as he may be headed to Juve
by nolesblogger on Jul 8, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe it is spelled
Merica, if you don’t love it you can git out
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be good
Then we wouldn’t be able to afford 2 Upton’s. But it would be pretty badass for a couple years!
by RivalsTees on Jul 8, 2009 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJ will never leave
he’s an integral part of the St. Pete – Clearwater economic development plan
So long, Sweet Lime!
He should start kissing babies and waving to people then.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed it would
It certainly is creeping back into the realm of possibility
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I agree. Also, it would def help if we could get Justin here.
by RivalsTees on Jul 8, 2009 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Because he's freaking amazingly crazy absurdly good and he's 21. He's going absolutely nowhere.
Tools Whore
I didn't come up with the idea of trading for him.
I simply said we couldn’t afford 2 Upton’s, but it would be badass. and having both you probably get a package/hometown discount.
by RivalsTees on Jul 8, 2009 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
20 Years/ 200M would be a bargain for those 2
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

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