Matt Moore is a STUD!
He has been great of late and has been dominant his last three starts. In this fanshot, we fantasize about a hard-throwing lefty who strikes EVERYONE out. Top 50 prospect next year?
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Yep, those types excite me
I’m well aware of him and a couple others
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From raysprospects.com
As good as the stats on Moore are, the scouting report might be even better. Baseball America named him the #1 pitching prospect in the Appy League in 2008 and #6 overall for the Rays. Moore throws an easy 92-94 MPH from the left side, touching 95. He also features a tight curveball that’s a true swing-and-miss pitch and has at least plus-potential, if not plus-plus. He also throws a change-up that fades away from right-handers, although it lags behind the fastball and curve in terms of development.
http://www.raysprospects.com/2009/02/top-15-pitchers-7-matt-moore.html
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been barkling up this tree since May
Maybe he’ll get a shot at A+ by the end of the year
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 8, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has anybody noticed the trend
that lefty power pitchers continue to dominate in the minors but in the majors suck for us? Ex: Price (I know SSS but…) and Kaz.
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was he a power guy?
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was sorta joking.
If you mean velocity, no, if you mean strikeouts, yeah.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i meant
velocity power pitchers
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Kazmir has had a horrible career
and that Price guy, we should probably just cut bait.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your sarcastic commentd
fail to amuse me.
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
comments*
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about you nor your amusement
Have you noticed the greater trend that the minors filters out the worst players very early and then makes cuts from level to level going forward, with the Majors being the highest level of competition in the world?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't answer the question
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously=yes
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One is a condescending response akin to a head nod, the other is one of the two answers to the question I posed
WEBSITE WEDNESDAY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What???
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Habla ingles?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you retarded?
Price has struggled somewhat in less than 10 starts. Kazmir was GREAT, but he has had some trouble of late due to injuries. Kazmir career FIP is better than Shields, Garza, anyone else on the staff, Javier Vasquez, John Lester, etc. GET A CLUE.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was****************
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagreeing with rglass can cause name calling
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saying retarded things gets you called retarded.
Saying Kazmir and Price “suck for us” may be the single most retarded thing I have ever read on this site.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't say
that… just stating what i have seen so far?
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't say they suck?
Has anybody noticed the trend
that lefty power pitchers continue to dominate in the minors but in the majors suck for us? Ex: Price (I know SSS but…) and Kaz.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
suck
was not meant to be taken heavily?
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say what you mean and mean what you say, it's why Hitler never wrote anything down
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Allen ghost wrote that
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That explains
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine then.
Has anybody noticed the trend
that lefty power pitchers continue to dominate in the minors but in the majors fail to win cy youngs so far in their young careers for us? Ex: Price (I know SSS but…) and Kaz.
Fixed
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing is
Kaz wasn’t developed in our system, so I don’t really know why he applies here. So really it is just Price. Yeah so far he is a disappointment, but pitchers with his skillset just don’t dominate from day 1.
Kazmir fading the past couple years has nothign to do with our developmental system. Perhaps injuries, coaching, mechanics, combination of the three…but nothing about a pitcher flaming out once hitting the majors.
by matthan on Jul 8, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, Kazmir's best season came under Hickey.
/ducks
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't take the name of Scott Kazmir in vain when dealing with rglass.
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone forgets that he is still the best pitcher we have ever had.
Shields has been better this year and last, but Kaz was MUCH BETTER in 2007 than I think we’ll ever see from Shields.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets not get back into this
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not.
RJ always gets mad at me when it happens.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's just sore over Winston Abreu
It’ll pass
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that lefty power pitchers continue to dominate in the minors but in the majors suck for us? Ex: Price (I know SSS but…) and Kaz.
You should have been here prior to last season
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calmer than you are
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waving the fucking gun around?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a league game Smoke
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I told that god damn Kraut down at the league office I don't roll on Shabbas.
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuckin amateur
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Moore has never retired a major league batter.
Until he does he’s just another “prospect”.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talbot then has lost his prospect status, i guess
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he's been a major league pitcher.
Talk to me when Moore gets a MLB hitter out.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barring n injury setback, i'll put my money on him
Mitch Talbot’s are a dime a dozen in every orginization
Hell we had/have Niemann and Sonny to boot
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sonny had a K/9 of 10.28 in A+ ball
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sonny's K/BB ratio in the minors is actually still higher than Hellickson's.
A lot of people don’t realize it, but Sonny dominated the minors better than most top prospects do.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm one of the few who am not in love with Hell-boy
i saw him pitch in Legends and he gave up the long ball too often
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scouts compare him to Brad Penny with a little less octane.
You should like that.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see, although the 'less octane' bothers me
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, instead of gunning 98 he's gunning 96.
This is not worth worrying about.
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, sorry, for some reason I was thinking about Moore.
But, yeah, whatever, Hellickson sits at 93 regularly. We’re not talking about a pedestrian fastball, if that was even really important.
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a great bullpen and only one of them touches 96.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that is wierd
the Indians decided to go after all these ‘power arms’ and there still stuck in last place
Wood,Veras, Perez and Abreu—have all got bombed
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get out the back, Jack, need a new plan, Stan, get yourself a key , Lee, and get yourself a free.
Hope on the,Gus, don’t need to throw gas muuuuuuuch…
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had the same thought.
For some reason, I doubt MR. West was making a Paul Simon reference.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get people who throw
sliders??
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 8, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome Raymondo!
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this about Raymondo.
Just when you lose hope, HE REELS YOUR RIGHT BACK IN.
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RJ did some self-diagnosis last night...
IF YOU CATCH MY DRIFT.
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I diagnosed your mom last night
In her vagina. If you know what I mean.
We had sex.
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Jul 8, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wh should get Chad Harville
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by Brickhaus on Jul 9, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry that I failed to remember that today is stupid asshole day, better known as
WEBSITE WEDNESDAY IN THE HOUSEEEEEEEEEEEE
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 8, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am posting this from the shitter at work
So long, Sweet Lime!
by PlayOnWords on Jul 8, 2009 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
A true American hero if there ever was one.
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by Buc Wild on Jul 8, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to post from my phone at Yankees stadium last month.
My yankees fan buddy bitch slapped my phone 3 rows down.
"What the hell is a Labradoddle?"
by davelrogers on Jul 8, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More of a Yankme fan
HIYO!
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by Buc Wild on Jul 8, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he likes the Red Sox
This is just a buddy.
"What the hell is a Labradoddle?"
by davelrogers on Jul 8, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mobile commenting was just enabled like 2 days ago
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by Brickhaus on Jul 9, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not saying I succeded. just tried.
"What the hell is a Labradoddle?"
by davelrogers on Jul 9, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is already a top 50 prospect.
I’m guessing he’ll be top 30 on several publications
by daveh33 on Jul 8, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
srsly?
I haven’t seen him that high anywhere
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by Brickhaus on Jul 9, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He really has hit his stride this summer
He began A ball with BB/9 of 8.8 and 7.4 in April and May. June and July to date have been 2.93 and 2.35.
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Would anyone agre with this comment?
The Montgomery Biscuits, sans Jennings, Hellickson and maybe Morlan, is the biggest collection of shit we have in the minors
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would say that team is more stocked than the Charlotte team.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not with pitching prospects
It’s tough to find a hitting prospect anywhere, but the Biscuits are inept
They picked up a journeyman named Perry to play LF, but he’s 29 yo
Want to gasp, look at hitting stats of the GCL Rays
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone actively want to gasp?
Is it normal for people to be running around, trying to find things that make them unintelligibly express horror or shock?
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see their batting stats?
i don’t think ther’s a 200 hitter on the roster
i’m amazed
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IDK dude
I think Hellickson, Rollins, Rodriguez>Newman, Cobb, Darcy.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to go Downs before Darcy.
Both have decent pitching. Its a lack of lumber
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Either way I think the pitching at AA has a better shot of helping the big team down the road.
by rglass44 on Jul 8, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably right
but its b/c of Hellickson more so than an overall comparison
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offensively the Crabs and Biscuits are brutal
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though Nowak and the recently returned Eldridge should help the Biscuits
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But are they prospects?
to me a prospect is a minor leaguer who is in the MLB parent club’s plans
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, well Nowak maybe but he failed Durham hard
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm a Rhybe Hughes fan
can he play 1B?
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes a good fielding 1st baseman, hes in Durham now
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know that and mashing pretty well
He’s getting to the ‘careeer minor leaguer’ status
love to see him up, but where?
by Raymondo on Jul 8, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT
Norris (Tallahassee, FL)
Would the Rays be considered potential suitors for Doc Halladay? If so, what type of package would get the deal done?
Jim Callis (2:11 PM)
Yes, the Rays still have a lot of young talent. Might have to be something like Wade Davis, Reid Brignac and Desmond Jennings, and the Rays have enough talent at those positions to be able to afford it.
I love Doc but I’ll pass.
rbizzler (DC)
Best CF prospect in the minors?
Jim Callis (2:59 PM)
Desmond Jennings.
Me likey.
Jeter Sucks.
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Jul 8, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No way I would do that deal. None.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think Sonny's better than Edwin, what do you know?
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EDWIN WAS BETTER UNTIL SEPTEMBER 5TH.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT DO YOU KNOW DEWD?
You obviously watch baseball, but do not understand it.
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by Buc Wild on Jul 8, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Advanced metrics are for pussies! Real men talk about batting averages and pound Natty Ice!
FUCK YEAH!
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same guy called me a tool when I said I'd rather have Scott Hairston than Rocco Baldelli last June.
Yes, because not park adjusting statistics and relying on often-injured players to come back and deliver is how real men play the game.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 8, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROCCO BALDELLI IS A SAINT!
The only reason he gets hurt is because he plays so HARD! BJ Upton should learn a thing or two from ROCCO FAWKIN’ BALDELLI!
/puts in a giant lip
by Suttree on Jul 8, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget that real men also draw opinions based on one at bat or inning. “upton is the worst player ever” etc
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by Buc Wild on Jul 8, 2009 5:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, how can we trade for him if hes homeless?
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap.
They’re eating 15 million dollars.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on Jul 8, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sir Yes Sir!!!
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by FreeZorilla on Jul 8, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Price has struggled somewhat in less than 10 starts. Kazmir was GREAT, but he has had some trouble of late due to injuries. Kazmir career FIP is better than Shields, Garza, anyone else on the staff, Javier Vasquez, John Lester, etc. GET A CLUE.Cool linux hosting and virtual private servers plans.
by leo44 on Jul 14, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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