Rays Send Joe Nelson To Minors; Andy Sonnanstine To Return?
by Tommy Rancel on Aug 1, 2009 12:13 AM EDT
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PrintIn addition to the Desmond Jennings promotion, the Durham Bulls will also welcome Joe Nelson to their team. The Rays demoted the reliever after pitching in tonight's rout of the Royals. After signing Nelson to a one-year $1.3 million dollar contract in the offseason, things have not gone according to plan for the Vulcan master. Coming into last night's game, Nelson was 3-0 with a 4.12 ERA/5.72 FIP in 41 games.
Those numbers are a far cry from the 2.00/3.45 he put up as a member of the Florida Marlins last year. Nelson's K/9 also dropped from 10.0 to 8.01 while his BB/9 jumped from 3.67 to 6.18. For Nelson pitching in the minor leagues is nothing new as he spent the better part of a decade in the minors. This stay shouldn't be too long as Nelson would be the first option in the event of a injury. If not, he'd almost guaranteed to be back when rosters expand.
The Rays haven't announced a corresponding move, but one would have to believe that Andy Sonnanstine is headed to the Rays bullpen. Since being sent down last month, Sonny has gone 3-0 with a 3.00 ERA/2.46 FIP in four starts. If things go accordingly Sonny's numbers should pick up as a reliever as is the case with most starters moving to the bullpen. The Rays did not acquire a bullpen arm from outside the organization, but Iceman Jr. could provide the lift the Rays were looking for.
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Iceman Jr? Sorry, JP doesn't have kids from my knowledge. His semen is like liquid nitrogen, it's scientifically impossible.
by Doug09 on Aug 1, 2009 12:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
After chilling a game J.P. and Andy's mom had a few cheetos, little puff puff pass and next thing you know
He legally adopted Sonny.
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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 1, 2009 12:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's hoping it's not Sonny
Why are Shouse and Choate still here?
Seriously?
Not Sonny? You don’t think he is an improvement over Nelson? The LOOGY question is a fair one, waiver deadline?
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Is the slight improvement worth harming his trade value?
Im sure it can’t do much damage than whats already been done. Might as well promote him. We are already going for the AAA dynasty, so maybe promoting Sonny will add some parity down there.
A few months of relief will not change his long term starting prospects eleswhere
See Justin Masterson who has been a reliever for well more than a few months
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First of all i want to correct, Choate or Shouse--Shouse should go
Sonny i guess is a long man, but is that what we need?
Sonny is a SP on a bad team (Bannister, Arroyo, Kip Wells), those are the types i think of when i think of him
He is better than that
Which begs the question…why couldn’t we trade him?
I brought this up when he was first demoted and the idea was scoffed at.
I’d be glad to see him given a shot in the pen. Granted he can eat innings without any real risk of injury, but if he can add a few MPH to his fastball and a little more bite to his breaking stuff coming out of the pen (a la JP) he could be very effective, IMO.
And do we really need him as a trade chip? I don’t see us getting fair value for him; how much AAA raking would it take before we would?
Same with J.P. Howell, and Mariano Rivera, and ...
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Howell throws harder as a reliver?
JP has always had a good K/9 ratio
As a starter Howell's velo was in the 83-84 range.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone was saying (I can't recall) that JP's velocity was low because of an elbow injury; his year as a starter in KC where he was around where he is now backs that up.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
He's pitching in the NL and in SF.
That’s the perfect storm for success.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Hate to burst everyone's bubble about Sonny...
…but check out the current Durham Bulls Roster page, which not only includes recent additions like Shawn Riggans, Desmond Jennings and Joe Nelson, but oddly lacks Justin Ruggiano….DUN DUN DUN!!!!!
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&did=milb&cid=234
His player page says he's temporarily inactive
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 1, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
ed_price#Rays sign RHP, Jeff Bennett, release by #Braves, and option RHP Joe Nelson to AAA
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For the lulz
Isn't Bennett an abusive drunk?
Should fit in well at the Rays rehab center.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
We haven't cleared a 40-man spot.
So either we’ll do that or he’s Durham bound to take whomever spot.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Michel off the 40-man, Riggans up, Bennett up
Bennett sucks though so I don’t see why we want him.
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 1, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
ya looking at his stats etc
he’s a mediocre Grant Balfour (minus the k’s), good velocity on his FB and has been incorporating a slider more often.
Kaz/Shields/Garza/Sonny/Price/Davis/Hellickson-necessitate a drool cup or a 7 man rotation
by CubFanRaysaddict on Aug 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
His player page says he's temporarily inactive
Maybe there was a death in his family or something
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 1, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're saying she ate her young and he had to go Chris Benoit on her for it?
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
Forget this
The big news: Dukes recalled by the Nats! (also Jorge Sosa)
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Later Houser
The Rays have signed RHP reliever Jeff Bennett, who has arrived here at the Trop and will be available out of the bullpen tonight.
To make room on the 40-man roster, LHP James Houser was released.
2010 starters
C Non on active roster 1B Carlos Pena 2B Ben Zobrist SS Jason Bartlett/Reid Brignac 3B Evan Longoria LF Carl Crawford CF B.J Upton RF Matt Joyce DH Pat Burrell
i dont know
Was hoping for Sonny who actually has never came into a game as a RP in his career
2010 starters
C Non on active roster 1B Carlos Pena 2B Ben Zobrist SS Jason Bartlett/Reid Brignac 3B Evan Longoria LF Carl Crawford CF B.J Upton RF Matt Joyce DH Pat Burrell
Too bad.
Guess Houser never recovered from his knee injury.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think one of the loogies (ugly word) will go and Sonny will come up after the Red Sox series
2010 starters
C Non on active roster 1B Carlos Pena 2B Ben Zobrist SS Jason Bartlett/Reid Brignac 3B Evan Longoria LF Carl Crawford CF B.J Upton RF Matt Joyce DH Pat Burrell
Matthan will be pleased
Maybe we’re getting a special glimpse at the 8 man rotation this year, setting it up for full effect next season.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
So what would your 8 man rotation look like?
Mine is
Shields/Kazmir/Garza/Neimann/Price/Sonnanstine/Davis/Cormier?
Shields/Kaz/Garza/Niemann/Price/Sonnanstine/Davis/Talbot
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
Bennett has had a better career than Nelson
But, why did the Braves release him? Their bullpen isn’t exactly lighting it up this year.
If he is a ground ball machine, maybe he is just going to fill Bradford’s role.
not sure
Chadford may just take a spot from a loogy, I don’t know why we still have 2 anyway, I am guessing for the Sox series
2010 starters
C Non on active roster 1B Carlos Pena 2B Ben Zobrist SS Jason Bartlett/Reid Brignac 3B Evan Longoria LF Carl Crawford CF B.J Upton RF Matt Joyce DH Pat Burrell
He asked to be released
They acquiesed
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