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Tampa Bay Rays Get Swept in Anaheim

 

  • For all the talk about the Angels playing "Angels baseball", they hit two homers today and four on Monday. That's an average of two home runs per game. Entering today the Angels had 125 home runs in 111 games, or 1.13 per. That's more than the Cubs, Brewers, Indians, and Cardinals; two less than the Diamondbacks, three less than the Rockies, 11 less than the Red and White Sox. In other words: manufacturing runs through the small ball? Yeah, don't think they aren't capable of launching bleacher treats.  
  • The Angels represent an awful matchup for the Rays. Especially when it comes to playing pen/batter match-ups with a bullpen heavily composed of specialists. Two LOOGY, a few righties you'd rather not have against lefties, and the combination of J.P. Howell and Grant Balfour. That's the pen. In a one run game, Randy Choate entered to face Chone Figgins, Erick Aybar, and Bobby Abreu. Two switch hitters and a lefty. Choate is of course a lefty. Over the last three years, Figgins has hit lefties poorly (.693 OPS) while Aybar has fared better against lefties, although still not great (.696 OPS). Meanwhile Abreu is pretty good against everyone. So you take whatever advantages you can get and hope it works out. It didn't. Vladimir Guerrero comes up with two on and first open and the Rays issue him a free pass. Then Kendry Morales, another switch-hitter, comes up and he's struggled against lefties too. He engages Choate an in epic at-bat and eventually wins and ... good gravy what in the heck do the Rays have to do to catch a break here.
  • What's funny - and I mean this in the ironic sense rather than the humorous sense - is during the prolonged seventh inning at-bat, I kept expecting a grand slam. Such an event would've pushed the score to 9-4 and made me groan in terror. Naturally, the Angels found a way to score five runs that inning without a grand slam. Sigh.
  • Gabe Kapler hitting against a righty with reverse splits didn't work so well. Reason #212 as to why two LOOGY are a waste of time: Joe Maddon couldn't pinch hit with Willy Aybar then flip B.J. into centerfield without basically dumping the bench. Come on guys, you get next to nothing wrong, and I love that you try and squeeze value from every single player in the organization, but one of these two lefties has to go.
  • Random thought during the game: be glad Troy Percival hasn't retired yet. No really. Him being on the 60-day disabled list means someone like ... say Wade Davis can be placed on the playoff roster even if he doesn't come up until September.
  • Jeff Bennett's territory = +/- 5 runs.
  • The two series prior to the west coast roadie saw our playoff odds jump from 30.4% to 36.6%. In Seattle our odds went up to 39% thanks to the Yankees. After our bombing in Anaheim, we're down to 24.4%, the lowest since early May. Still undead, still need help, and now we probably won't have a Boston losing streak of quite that magnitude backing us up.
  • Another random thought: assuming the Tampa BBWAA keeps the same rubric, who would be the team MVP based solely on win percentage in games started? Well, I did the math for everyone with at least 100 starts (and Ben Zobrist) and here's what we get:

 

Player GS W GS L Win%
Upton 56 47 0.544
Pena 58 49 0.542
Crawford 59 50 0.541
Bartlett 49 42 0.538
Longoria 55 49 0.529
Zobrist 45 43 0.511

 

  • Congratulations B.J.! I hope you have room on your mantle for that trophy.

Star-divide

Nope, I can't wait for people to take that analysis seriously either.

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Without reading any of this I just wanted to announce that I picked up a bottle of whiskey and am not leaving

until it is all drank. Our play this series makes me want to puke all over the world. I wish everyone was dead but me.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

usually its the other way around

You wish you were dead, not everyone else

"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey

by Gone Phishing on Aug 12, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding Percy not retiring

The Rays are probably telling him not to so they can use that need be.

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

He's our new Orvella!

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Aug 12, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he isn't the first pitch bitch...

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we make up an injury for someone else too like Bennett

that way Davis and Hellickson have the chance to be on the post-season roster.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry children the playoffs are canceled this year

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope at least those 2 get called up in September

Lobaton and any number of current relievers don’t need a roster spot.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

on a positive note, Jason Bartlett's regression is really kicking in during the month of August

he is 18-40 or a .450 BA. and in regards to the subthread of Zobrist hitting lead-off during the gdt, yea Bartlett isn’t this good but can we let it ride until he shows signs of struggling.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a silly argument.

Because when he does show signs, you’ll argue that you can’t rise and drop guys based on streaks (which is absolutely correct by the way).

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he should be dropped at anytime the rest of the season

but especially not when he is in the middle of his top hitting month of the season. People asked how JB would respond to batting lead-off and he has been amazing, why change it.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody asked how he'd respond.

We know he’s not this good.

If he goes 0-10 that doesn’t change anything, if he goes 10-10 that doesn’t change anything.

I don’t understand why we have this argument. He’s having a good year, it’s not the real Bartlett. Moving forward you should expect him to hit like he did the past three years with this year weighted in and some mean PAs thrown in.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying you are wrong, in fact 90% of the time you are right

but sometimes players improve or have out of the ordinary seasons that are really good. You keep saying he isn’t this good, he isn’t a .330 or better hitter and he keeps on doing it and in fact after a small rough patch in july has been even better in August. Now I’m not saying he will do it again next year, this is why I think we should trade him. Baseball isn’t an exact science sometimes things just happen that shouldn’t.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're not arguing the same things.

You’re saying why demote him THIS YEAR when he’s hit so well so far and doesn’t seem to be slowing down…but you agree he’s not this good.

How can you agree that moving forward (which is next year in your view) isn’t a safe bet, but the next ~50 games are? That’s where are our point of disconnect is.

And for what it’s worth, I’ve said it about a dozen times, but Bartlett against lefties doesn’t bother me and Bartlett versus righties doesn’t bother me overly much because the lineup really doesn’t matter all that much.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because I believe there is more to baseball than what can be explained in a computer

I’m not sure if he is getting laid more or eating a new breakfast but something has him in a zone this year and I feel like there is a better chance he loses that zone over an off-season than magically over night over the next month 1/2. I could be completely wrong and he hits .280 over the rest of the season and if that happens I’ll be the first to say I’m wrong.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

knee

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

mostly luck

and I’m not saying Bartlett isn’t lucky this year, he has been. But I also think there is a part of making your own luck whether it be good or bad. It goes back to his LD% he isn’t going to have one as high as he has this year but it isn’t only high because of luck. There are other factors, new approach, seeing the ball better, more comfortable, etc…

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just hard for me to buy into this

Players are human, they go through mood swings, they change approaches, they change cereals, they change sleep patterns with new kids, they get married, they wear new underoos, etc.

We’ve had these fluctuations happening forever and they happen during every season. Why is it that we never hear about them until AFTER someone has a huge year?

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

because most of the time people don't talk about them during the year because they keep saying they are going to regress to the mean

and when the season is over and they have had a huge year everyone overreacts thinking they are going to be the teams next superstar and most of the time they regress the next season. See Ryan Ludwick.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, I meant the media reporting it.

Mark Hendrickson and Jacque Jones got Lasik before last season. Didn’t help’em one bit, if a player that got Lasik hit .400 through the month of May it would be the biggest story in baseball.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is true

and as for Lasik I don’t think it dramatically affects a players ability however I think it could be a factor in a player improving that is common sense. No matter if you are playing baseball or building a tree house if you can see better it is most likely going to help you get the job done. Like I said I don’t think it makes a dramatic difference though.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Which is my take on just about every other reason.

Is being comfortable, getting more sleep, and seeing clearer helpful? I would think so. Does it make David Eckstein into Evan Longoria? I really don’t see it.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we at the point where we think he's better than his past three years?

At least slightly? Since 2006 his numbers were .284/.343/.369 without this year and are .294/.353/.404 including this year. That’s a pretty significant bump thanks to the 300+ PAs this year.

If we take .294/.353/.404, do you think he’ll outperform or underperform those numbers?

by tallyray on Aug 12, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think there's been any change other than random luck?

The only reason I ask is the increase in XBH. He had 63 doubles and 8 HR in in about 1400 PAs. This year he has 23 and 11 in 365 PAs. He’s also striking out more and hitting more line drives. I understand the sample issues.

by tallyray on Aug 12, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I know when Papi went from the Twins to the Red Sox he went from being a slap hitting singles hitter

into a legit power threat. Maybe it’s the Twins fault.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Barty has been accidently mixing supplements

but they do probably teach slap hitting because of the turf

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Twins were Top-5 in lease Ks from 2006-2008

And had the fewest in baseball in ’06 and ’07. Of course that could be a personnel issue and not an organizational thing, but the Twins love their slap hitters.

by tallyray on Aug 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a tongue in cheek comment

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I realized that

But the Twins have always embraced slap hitting

by tallyray on Aug 12, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Bartlett is the new David Ortiz

Embrace it or die

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know for sure or where to check

but I wonder if he has changed his approach at the plate. I know that one of the things brought up against him leading off was that he doesn’t see many pitches. I wonder if this is a change from in the past. He could be looking for pitches (fastballs) early in the count and being more aggresive as opposed to being more of a take a bunch of pitches and than slap singles with 2 strikes in the past. Going after fastballs early in the count could explain the rise in XBH and than luck factors a lot in that his hits are dropping in as opposed to being caught.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt Bartlett see the magic hitting coach that Zobrist uses?

Couldn’t that be a factor? I may be mistaken

Also there is no doubt Bartlett is THIS good. This good is elite HOF type SS territory. I don’t think he can repeat this year, but you shouldn’t expect anybody on this planet to repeat a year like that. I just think Bartletts true talent level is higher than what you think it is.

I think a reasonable expectation for Bartlett next year is maybe .315 with 10 home runs. I think that is his most likely output. Maybe a bit better and maybe a bit worse. That is still pretty strong for shortstop. Although I’d like some defense from that spot too.

If someone wants to trade for Bartlett giving us a value of a .330 hitter with 15 home run power with good defense then by all means do it. I see him as a .315 with 10hrs type guy with so so defense. It is all about value.

Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks

by matthan on Aug 13, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't this good. Not this good

He certainly isn’t this mega offensive star. Sorry.

Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks

by matthan on Aug 13, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't this cute

All stick, no glove SS’s aren’t the greatest thing in the world. I hope his defense doesn’t fall off the map like Lugo’s has.

Julio Lugo UZR/150
2004 17.5
2005 4.8
2006 -8.0
2007 4.3
2008 -2.6
2009 -37.2

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 13, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shouse has 0.0 value to this team. He's owed a few hundred k just give it to him and move on

Keeping him is hurting the team more than the salary dump.

www.draysbay.com

by Tommy Rancel on Aug 12, 2009 7:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

just wanted to add nothing against Shouse

He’d done well for the most part against lefties and if we didn’t have Choate he’d still serve a purpose. However, Choate has been better and is slightly less dreadful against RHB.

www.draysbay.com

by Tommy Rancel on Aug 12, 2009 7:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

neither are very good

Choate’s season numbers look so good because he got off to a great start, he has been poor over the last month or 2.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not quite

Last 30 days (11 g 5.2 IP) 3.18ERA/3.61 FIP. He’s not used that often so one bad game would skew his numbers.

www.draysbay.com

by Tommy Rancel on Aug 12, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

since July 1

8 1/3 innings 13 hits 7 runs 2 bb 2 k

even if you take out today he has only given up 3 runs but has gotten some help thanks to people stranding his runners. He has had 6 appearences in that span without recording an out.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's hasn't just been facing lefties like he should

He’s faced a fair about of RHB/Switch hitters.

www.draysbay.com

by Tommy Rancel on Aug 12, 2009 8:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

than blame it on Maddon for mis-using him

but this is why I don’t like Loogy’s in general. If you are going to be wasting a roster spot by facing 1 or 2 batters during a game because you can only be used in certain circumstances than you better be lights out and neither Shouse or Choate fit that description. I would rather have a guy like Sonny, who may give up an extra hit or two against a LH over a few span but at least he can stay in against whoever is batting.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really care which we dump. Just dump one.

If dumping Shouse means paying him next year, then dump Choate.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know there is no way the writers or anyone outside of this site would give it to BJ

and while I am on the pro-bj side of the arguement, I don’t care what the computer says there is no way I would say he is more valuable than Barty, C.C., Longoria, Zobrist, or even Pena this year. I think the stats take CF defense and give it way too much weight.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhh

You realize I wasn’t seriously arguing for B.J., right?

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I figured that but like I've said before

I don’t understand most of the stats and such that you guys use I just use the list and numbers to compare different players and I thought that was some way of making BJ more valuable assuming because of his defense.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Link

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at the picture above

He looks like Ortiz

www.draysbay.com

by Tommy Rancel on Aug 12, 2009 8:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

bravo

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then RD comes around and fucks the fatty

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kentucky Gentleman

And what does it matter the season is over. We were given a great opportunity and we blew it.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know--No. I won't tell you how godawful pathetic you are.

I’ve already made joeybw kill himself this week. I don’t need your blubber on RJ’s conscience as well.

Into the Wall : Sarcasm for the Soccer Guy

by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 12, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do it you should

Succumb to the dark side.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have the balls to do it

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh but I do. You, however, don't have the balls to fuck that fat blogger that wants you.

You’re never getting laid naturally. Why not get laid due to my .GIF’ing your dumbass at the HRD?

Into the Wall : Sarcasm for the Soccer Guy

by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 12, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, you should probably take what you can get man

It’s not like your xbox handles lubricant well.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sides fat chicks give the best head

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I think it's their fat cheeks and throat

I think the fat is a better buffer than skin and sinew

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go get your own

May I suggest Kenutcky Gentleman, it was 8.50 for a liter

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had pineapple and malibu thrown in my face last week and now my hat won't stop stinking of it

I wouldn’t recommend it. The duster could be a nice addition though.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I have other options in real life...

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's always Nebraska Avenue.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

LIES

Staring at girls’ tits obsessively does not equal “options”.

Into the Wall : Sarcasm for the Soccer Guy

by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 12, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have 2 I could but they are kinda weird

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right

what are you waiting for man pink is pink

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well one isn't in state now but will be when school starts...

the other is the scary black girl

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

56) I love that he isn't afraid of the scary black girl

She’s the only one who knows how to treat me like the filthy little girl that I am.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

For 5 minutes it seems about right

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He took one joke I made and is just running through it til its not funny anymore.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Aug 12, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it astonishing that we're still trying to assign blame for these kinds of runs on things like 'the west coast' or 'cleveland' or 'star-spangled hats'

You know what they all have in common? The Road. The Rays this year are universally bad on the road. There’s no trend. That’s it. The end.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like your attitude

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like your face.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coming from a guy like you I'll take that as a compliment

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Rays were matching pace with the teams they were contending with, they'd be somewhere around 2 games under on the road.

Instead, they’re 10 games under. I see this deficit as beyond a skill level difference.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Young guys banging broads on the road

If Cliffy was here…

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lack of Rays (girls) Team.

We should bring them on the road.

by Doug09 on Aug 12, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can ride right here

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you can't blame any specific group of talent, there's only one place to turn.

And you’re probably not going to like my opinion on this, but it falls to coaching. The team isn’t ready to play road games. No, Maddon and Co. don’t play the games, but it’s always a different culprit. No offense, no defense, no starting pitching, no bullpen. It’s never the same. It can’t be the players when it’s never consistently the same problem.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have any reasons.

I do know the pitching strikes less out and walks more.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is matthan bait

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we are significantly worse on the road than what we should be given our home record

We can only speculate why we so dramatically underperform our skill level on the road. It exists

Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks

by matthan on Aug 13, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Joe could provide sperm to a test tube baby that Lou also was trying to fertilize

and Judge Judy was carrying the child I think we would have a hell of a coach.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying that any of the coaching should be fired

I consider the collective coaching staff smart enough to realize this is happening and can figure it out, but if they keep blaming these kinds of games like this on the individual components that caused the failure, it makes me think they don’t realize that it’s not always the same problem. The certainly haven’t acknowledged anything relating to consistently poor play on the road.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this statement

Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks

by matthan on Aug 13, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not counting us out by any means but

if come September we are 5+ games out what are the chances our young guys (Joyce, Brignac, Jaso and Hellickson and Davis out of the pen) get decent playing time.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Doubt Hellickson sees the bigs this year

He’s usually a year behind Davis

www.draysbay.com

by Tommy Rancel on Aug 12, 2009 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we rushed Price up why not Hellickson

outside of the Hype is there much of a difference between the two. If I remember right Price was in AAA about as long as Hellickson as been and if anything Hellickson should be more prepared because he has spent more time in proball overall

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

because Jose Lobaton isn't expendable

I think it would be a mistake not calling up Hellickson and letting him get some experience. I know it won’t happen but I wouldn’t mind seeing Hellickson given a shot to compete for a rotation spot next season.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say we just stopped by SoCal bring the USC cheerleaders into the hotel

and loosen the team up and let them all come back refreshed and ready to kick ass.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Long Beach

Dirtbag has the hook up on where panties get dropped

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shut up you lonely old man

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Derrick Brooks?

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooks from Shawshank

DB is too busy waiting by the phone

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn. I can't believe I missed that joke.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got banned once for saying the same thing everyone else did

and you’ll see a much different guy now—the games are pretty meaningless

by Raymondo on Aug 12, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I wasn't so depressed I would argue with you

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sandy, i wouldn't be much of a fight

all hope is lost, especially on the pitchers, and more specifically the rotation

by Raymondo on Aug 12, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true so true

It would be nice if when given a lead they could actually hold it.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This wasn't Neimann's fault

He has probablt been our most consistent pitcher. THats so hard to believe after the first inning of the season.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 13, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has been our most consistent pitcher

Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks

by matthan on Aug 13, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

That kitty is ugly

look at it’s fat face

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

SRQ is a fat pussy

OH THE IRONY A FAT PUSSY THAT IS AFRAID TO FUCK FAT PUSSY

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just go do it and we won't pick on you about this anymore

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh..

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For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

If scary black chick doesn't look like Mo'nique then you should do it.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

She is also insane

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For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh....

I might not be the laughing stock here but I would be among my buddies.

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For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I ment if I did it with crazy black chick

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by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't be the first is the point

break that cherry and be proud

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if

it’s this chick?

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The number of chicks alone isn't enough to qualify.

It’s the unmitigated confidence arrogance, plus the awesome slap-to-the-face celebration that makes this mine a winner.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do not judge her

until you know her whole story

Classic Maury

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just when you think that black folks are about to overcome

Maury finds a way to set them back 30 years

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always liked that one too.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd hope to God you couldn't kick a dead horse.

How could you do such a thing to a fine piece of ass?

by Doug09 on Aug 12, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not your joke.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, his 6th in two years

You don’t find many better HR rates out of the pen. While I didn’t see the HR coming, I did have a bad feeling about the pitching change. It just seemed premature. I tweeted it as Maddon walked to the hill.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 13, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad he doesn't subscribe to you

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 13, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we have a Brignac platoon yet please I don't see him being any worse vs. LHP

and it gives him some work at 2B in case we keep Bartlett and some more AB’s vs. ML pitching before next season.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 12, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard he is

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If people think that a 88-90 win team sucks, they're no smarter then any number of regular trolls that stroll in here.

Not making the playoffs would be a dissapointment, but it’s not a 100 loss season. It’s not even close.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 12, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I obviously have no idea how regression works.

Remember when I said Price would start walking less because of his ball rates, then he went and walked like 4 of his next 100 batters? Ha, clueless.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 12, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

SSS

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Admittedly

right after you made the ‘barty is regressing post’, he started destroying the ball. I don’t see any regression the rest of the way. Im convinced he’s changed something in his swing. Don’t know if it will be like the the rest of the year.

want to to the under on his zips OPS projection the rest of the way? Ill take the over, you name the stakes.

by RaysTheRoof on Aug 13, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

.

Into the Wall : Sarcasm for the Soccer Guy

by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 12, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Two sucky things together

Dickie and The Dark Knight

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Aug 12, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why so much hate Peter?

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

THAT'S SHAQUILLE TO YOU

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

-o-

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Aug 12, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's my yawn face ^_^

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Aug 12, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't read characters well

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Niether do girls.

Sign lady must die.
Nobody Talk to Raymondo - Support the Site-Wide Silent Treatment.

by EminenceFront on Aug 12, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you calling me a girl?

Nice sig, noted.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

Thanks!

Sign lady must die.
Nobody Talk to Raymondo - Support the Site-Wide Silent Treatment.

by EminenceFront on Aug 12, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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