Back Stopped: A Look at the Tampa Bay Rays Lack of Catching Depth
The Rays struggles at the catcher position have been well, if not over, documented on this site. With the news that Luke Bailey may be signed, sealed, and delivered by Monday signing deadline, the Rays could finally have a big time catching prospect in the organization. Although Bailey was drafted in the 4th round of this year's draft, he was considered by many as the top prep catching prospect before his Tommy John surgery. Of course taking a high school catcher is a risk in itself, and one coming off a major injury is an even bigger risk, but most scouts predict that Bailey is worth the gamble. He can hit for average and power. He has a great arm and enough athleticism that some project he could play second or third base, however, he shows the skills needed to stick at catcher. On top of all that, the kid can run a little bit too.
We know what we have at the major leagues. Even if Dioner Navarro rebounds to have a decent season (not likely) he is still in his arbitration years. Gregg Zaun is our savior this year, but is what he is and that's an old catcher, who really should be a backup. I guess we can throw Michel Hernandez in the same group with Zaun except Hernandez should be the backup's backup. Shawn Riggans has played one game for the Rays this year and recently suffered yet another injury after returning to the Durham Bulls. I like Riggans, and I'm sure the seams from Fernando Rodney's fastball are still imprinted on his chest, but if he's still on the 40-man roster next year I'll be shocked.
This leaves us with the minor leaguers...
|
Player |
Age |
Level |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
wOBA |
ISO |
|
Jaso |
25 |
AAA |
0.248 |
0.342 |
0.350 |
0.320 |
0.101 |
|
Albernaz |
26 |
AAA |
0.188 |
0.264 |
0.256 |
0.245 |
0.068 |
|
Ashley |
25 |
AA |
0.212 |
0.331 |
0.314 |
0.311 |
0.102 |
|
|
|
A+ |
0.236 |
0.311 |
0.340 |
0.306 |
0.104 |
|
Spring |
24 |
AA |
0.190 |
0.264 |
0.351 |
0.285 |
0.161 |
|
Lobaton |
24 |
MLB |
0.176 |
0.176 |
0.176 |
0.158 |
0.000 |
|
|
|
AAA |
0.241 |
0.292 |
0.353 |
0.29 |
0.113 |
|
|
|
AA |
0.423 |
0.484 |
0.769 |
0.532 |
0.346 |
|
Lopez |
24 |
A+ |
0.174 |
0.236 |
0.243 |
0.222 |
0.070 |
|
Jefferies |
21 |
A |
0.282 |
0.349 |
0.389 |
0.345 |
0.107 |
|
McCormick |
22 |
A+ |
0.224 |
0.297 |
0.448 |
0.336 |
0.224 |
|
|
|
A |
0.165 |
0.272 |
0.252 |
0.259 |
0.232 |
You'll notice I left of Hudson Valley and Princeton. Both are not full season squads and neither have any real prospects at the position. Besides, I think the names above show how desperate this organization is in the need for a catcher. Offensively, what has plagued the Rays major league team at the backstop position is an organization wide epidemic. Unfortunately, defensive metrics for the most part are unavailable in the minors so we're relying on reputation.
I thought John Jaso might challenge the backup spot this year, and possibly contend for a starting job in 2010, but his 2009 has been lack luster. The power saw from him last year has not been there this year and his defense is suspect to say the least. He has increased his walk total, but that's more of a moral victory than anything to be excited over. Behind him for most of the season has been Craig Albernaz, who is organization filler as is the case with a few other names on the list.
Nevin Ashley has the most at-bats in AA for a catcher, but again the production has been terrible. The 6th round pick in 2006, has dropped off each season since his impressive 2006 campaign and at age at 25 he finds himself back in single-A. The reason he is there, other than his production, is the addition of Jose Labaton.
Labaton had a brief stint with the Padres big league club after a below average start in Triple-A. However, since joining the Rays, Labaton has been on fire. He has five extra base hits in eight games after hitting just nine in 39 games for the Padres Triple-A affiliate. Labaton is 24, and since he is on the 40 man roster, there is a chance we could see him in September. He reminds me a lot of Dioner Navarro which doesn't mean much for his future. Matt Spring is his backup in Montgomery and again...organization filler.
The catcher position for class A+ Charlotte has been a revolving door. As mentioned above, Nevin Ashley has gotten his fair share of playing time there as well as Christian Lopez. Lopez, 24, is more filler. Mike McCormick has played for the stone crabs, but is currently with class A Bowling Green. Even though he's just 22 he's looking like filler of the future.
The lone bright spot on the list is Jake Jefferies, the starter for the Hot Rods. At age 21, Jefferies is the best thing going behind the plate in the Rays system. He's more of a contact/gaps hitter than a home-run threat at this point with 14 doubles and eight home runs. His plate discipline has been impressive and he has more walks (34) than strikeouts (32). His defense is still a work in progress; however, his footwork is decent. His arm behind the plate remains a question mark. He's not a top prospect by any means, but he's the best we've got; that is until Luke Bailey officially signs.
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no love for Alex Jamieson
I’m assuming he is still hanging out in Durham although maybe not on the roster. He is this years Josh Johnson.
by Dbullsfan on Aug 14, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought the pic was just u having googled a 14 yo catcher
Bailey looks damn young .
bring on the spects. bring them
by daveh33 on Aug 14, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jefferies bat appears to have potential
8 HR’s in LA is okay. But I haven’t heard raves about his D, as you point out.
Funny though – 4 of the Rays BA Top 30 for 2009 were C’s. Jaso #13, Jefferies #18, Acosta #25 (Hudson Valley), and McCormack #26 (what were they thinking here? Or is the system that shallow?).
by nyyfaninlaaland on Aug 14, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know this isn't answering you question
But could you possibly post the entire Top 30 list? I’m curious. Thanks
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Aug 14, 2009 2:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
A couple of years ago,
there was some thought that McCormick might develop. He was a HS draftee in 2005 and played 3B at Princeton in 2006 where he did reasonably well at the plate. 222 ABs with 18 doubles, 10 home runs and 64Ks with a line of
.275/.364/.491 as a 19 year old.
The next year, they moved him to catcher and to Hudson Valley where he pretty much mirrored his previous year. 239 ABs, 20 doubles, 8 HRs, 66 Ks and .276/.352/.469. I suppose the fact that he did not really improve at a similar level was a warning sign, but he seemed to do alright at catcher. I think he threw out over 30% of base-stealers and was not bad otherwise behind the plate.
But since then he has been pretty bad as a hitter. He did hit 13 home runs in the Sally League in 2008 but his other numbers were bad, and they are worse this year, although he was promoted early in the year to Port Charlotte and is doing marginally better there.
by bobr on Aug 14, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCormick has shown some pop, but everything else has fallen off
He’s still 22, but I’m not hoping for much.
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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 14, 2009 8:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
upside John Buck, downside Orgizational Filler?
by Navi's_Navy on Aug 14, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that one in the same?
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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 14, 2009 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Part of it is a semi-shallow system
And part of it is that Bill Ballew is just an idiot. The fact that they have him do the TB writeups every year is part of the reason I didn’t renew my subscription.
Acosta made the top 30 on the supposed strength of his defense. The Rays think so much of him that he’s repeating short season ball, and DHing half the time at that. Having seen both play, I think his platoon partner Mark Thomas is actually the better prospect (and considering the Rays gave Thomas a six-figure bonus to sign as a draft and follow a few years ago, I suspect the team thinks the same).
Bobr already explained McCormick pretty well. At the end of 2007, I had him rated as my #12 or #13 prospect in the system or something like that. The strikeouts were a humongois red flag, but he was a young kid who successfully converted to catcher who was showing a ton of power at a level where almost nobody hits for power.
I don’t think Jeffries is exactly the second coming either.
However, I do question whether Bailey was indeed the ‘top prep catching prospect’. I think that honor would have gone to Austin Maddox, who we drafted in the late rounds, but didn’t sign.
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by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that statement a few times
And once he got hurt Stassi became the #1.
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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 14, 2009 8:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I see Jefferies as the next version of Jaso
Seems able to hit, but can he catch enough.
My thing on the shallow is my view of the Rays system. Really good prospects at the top of the list, but once you leave the top 10, a major falloff. Some kids down low are looking up, but rookie level performance is so unreliable.
And looking at BA’s top 30, I wouldn’t have had it their way either Brick.
And I’m sure there’s a post in the archives here for you Marky Mark – I’m not typing out the names.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Aug 14, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying, Zaun, by most measures, should not be a backup, he should be a starter by pretty much all measures (his age; however, is the only concern)
Also, saying Navi is “unlikely” to have a bounceback season when even Zips forecasts him relatively favorably (about a .700 OPS, not stellar, but not horrid for a young catcher IIRC) for the rest of the way this year is a little undershooting it. He can and should play if we have a jam at catcher (if Zaun’s limbs fall off) and we shouldn’t be cutting our wrists as a result…
by Navi's_Navy on Aug 14, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's my pick to click
slow start at GCL—but he can mash and doesn’t K much
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=541660
by Raymondo on Aug 14, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rangers depth at C
We oughta make a deal for one of their young catchers. Teagarden, Saltalamacchia, Max Ramirez? Possibly
by LanceK on Aug 14, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what sucks?
For some reason, MLB wont let Zaun use a custom helmet anymore. He had a bad ass one with the Jays and O’s but just gonna be the same old with the Rays.
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by joeybw on Aug 14, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We're talking C's here, but what do all see as the post 2010 at 1B?
Seems like another org hole to me. Rhyne Hughes has had a nice season with the bat, but I don’t think he’s got the chops.
This one could cost some cash to solve. I’m sure Pena would come back, but at what price, and is that what you want to do? Sounds like a deal needs be made at some point.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Aug 14, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They could find a Brayan type free agent. if they have to.
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