The Deadline Thread
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 8:00 PM EDT
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Sarcasm:
I wonder how long until talk show types find a way to compare LeVon Washington to B.J. Upton. Both are obviously self-entitled, money-greedy little punks with nothing better to do but climb in trees and eat bananas all day.
LeVon gets no puddin'
And that makes LeVon sad (and Barry even sadder).
OT: Let’s go to the zoo and watch the BJ Upton’s DO IT!
Grandma – “the BJ Uptons no a-do it, they make-a love.”
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I fucking love The State
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 17, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad none of them did anything good after
Reno 911 was okay, I guess
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Wet Hot American Summer and Balls of Fury kicked asll
Thomas Lennon is the bomb
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I loved Viva Variety. Stella was also funny. M&MHI hasn't been funny yet
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 17, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAS yes, BoF no.
Stella was okay, Viva Variety was pretty good. I should probably take that statement back.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Were you even alive when The State was on the air?
I found a new happy show yesterday though. On Starz. Party Down – starring Ken Marino. He was the one guy from The State who seemed to completely disappear off the face of the planet. On the not so bright side, the Michael & Michael Have Issues show is one of the worse State progeny.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Uh, yes, I was alive
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 17, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
for some reason, I thought you were PLK’s lil’ bro, unless that was just a meme.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'm 10 years older than he is
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The commercials for that show make it look terrible
Vroom vroom party starter
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 17, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Superior, by far, to The Kids in the Hall
"That's not baseball. Little numbers in a newspaper is...So-dookie, or whatever."
by Orlando Rays on Aug 18, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Kids in the Hall predates the State
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
IM A READER ON THIS WEBSITE EVERY MORNING AND EVERYNIGHT AND I SEE THE GARBAGE YOU PEOPLE TYPE ON HERE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS OF THE STORIES WRITTEN ON HERE LIKE YOU ALL ARE PERFECT YOU ALL ARE CRAP FAGZ AND I HOPE YOU ALL CHOKE ON A BONE
Into the Wall : Sarcasm for the Soccer Guy
by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 17, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
I hope this is a quote
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 17, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't surprised by Diekroeger not signing.
I think he is going to be a first class ball player down the line. I am dissappointed in Washington. The man comes out and says that he “wants to be a Ray.” Well, obviously that was just lip service. The rays don’t need another Wade Townsand in regards to being injury prone. Good luck to both of you young-men in the future, though.
In the name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Aug 17, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
I am holding out we get something done with Dennis or Floro
In the meantime, Go Twins!
so I asked this in the other thread before knowing a new one was going up
is Brignac still a Ray (or a Bull) or will we not find out till tomorrow who will go down when Bradford comes up (plz plz plz be a loogy)
this
although the Tigers are going to be a beast now. I don’t know exactly what the thoughts were on that deal but my guess is it has a lot to do with the possibility of having to play the Yankees in the post-season. Huff gives them a good LHB to hit between Cabrera and Ordonez
Tigers are far from a beast
They have rotation, health & bullpen issues and w/o Inge have a problem at 3rd, basically guarantees Longoria wins the GG now, there’s no 3B left in the AL
by Transplanted on Aug 17, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Longoria is the bigger name & has the better offense
by Transplanted on Aug 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhm....
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 17, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Their rotation is pretty solid in my opinion.
They do have some injury issues though.
by floridaroar on Aug 17, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think LeVon will be a last minute signing
I really wanted Diekroger :(
I hope Dennis signs also
Now, I know its seperate money but if we sign neither, do you think we renew our interest in Sano?
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
If they think he's worth the extra money, maybe
Depends on whether the team was priced out for financial reasons or because they legitimately didn’t think he was worth what he’s going to get.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I dont think he gets extra money
this whole funny , i mean sad school screw up should make him demand a bit less
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
I meant Sano
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
If they sign Sano, I'll forgive them for today and the trading deadline.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'll at the least feel a lot better about the past few weeks if they do
and I mean, no news on Sano lately, who knows
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Tate signed with the Padres. Terms expected to be in the 6 million dollar range.
Jacob Turner is expected to sign with the Tigers.
Tools Whore
kingclipSome Boras deals done for days, unannouncable. RT @BizballMaury: @injuryexpert First Boras Corp. signing out of first round players
hmmmmmmmmmmm
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Liriano is absolutley horrible
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
SIGN LEVON GOD DAMNIT
At least sign Diekroeger
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Diek is unlikelier...
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Fuckity Fuck
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Think the Nats sign Strasburg?
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Think James Andrews already has his medical records on file?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think James Andrews knows a whole lot about
upper respiratory infections or the flu.
Tools Whore
yeah
for 20+ mil and when/if he gets hurt, there will be a whole new chapter in the shame of the Nationals.
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
If he turns into Mark Prior he's worth every penny of that 20 mil.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
valid question
He sorta cried like a baby from failing and then of course the curse of Baker started
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
If he pitches in the NLCS for the Nationals they should name the park after him.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It should already be Zimmerman Park
He still cares after all the failing and is damn stud
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
wouldn't we have said the same thing in 2005?
by Transplanted on Aug 17, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean the Brant Brown/Glenallen Hill LF platoon wasn't working for you
amongst other below average starters they had around that time, Augie Ojeda, bad Corey Patterson, 80 yr old Eric Karros
oh well you could fill in the blank for us too
we finally started getting lucky/drafting well and it started paying off.
2005 was pre-good management.
If the Nationals hire someone like DePodesta or Antonetti I’d say they’re on the right path.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I read Jed Hoyer is a candidate
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 17, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like him more if he didn't blow off an interview request after accepting it.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
That's basically it.
I emailed him, asking if he’d do an interview, he said sure, a day later I sent the questions, and he never replied. I emailed him back a few weeks later asking if he received the questions and he still didn’t reply.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought you meant he blew off...
an interview for a GM position. Yeah, that sucks. Haven’t been many interviews in awhile.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 17, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he has declined GM interviews too.
We’ve got a few in the pipe, just a matter of the people having the time.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking back on some Red Sox FO moves...
a lot more misses than hits on the pro side. Doesn’t Cherington handle amateur side?
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 17, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Best shot in baseball history!
Tools Whore
holy shit I'd never seen that before
I wonder if I can find that shot Hamilton hit in ST while with the Reds. I don’t remember when exactly it was but it went like 550 or something rediculous.
yes
I’m not sure who has the #2 pick next year but they aren’t going to be much better than the Nats. Nats need to just pay him, and than pay Harper next year. Trade Dunn, Nick Johnson, and whoever else is wasting their money. * note by wasting I don’t mean they aren’t good players, I mean they aren’t going to win right now with or without them so they might as well pull a Pittsburgh.
The Nats may not have the #1 pick next year
Royals are really bad
by Transplanted on Aug 17, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
they got rid of Johnson
as for Dunn, 1 year/10 mil, I can def see someone like the Yankees taking him
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
as a fan of the Rays I'd hate it
as a HR fan and fan of baseball, I’d love to see Ichiro play for the Yankees and actually try to hit homers. I’d almost be willing to put money on him hitting at least 50.
I can see it
He supposedly hits them out of the stadium in BP, he is just always swinging for singles
Another think I would like to see, speaking of the Mariners is Felix in Petco Park
I mean Safeco is good for pitchers but imagine him in Petco
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
eh but if those 2 were involved, you know the Red Sox would get their way in
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Ichiro is becoming one of my favorite all time players.
I’d hate to have to hate Ichiro by him becoming a Yankee or a Red Stocking.
by floridaroar on Aug 17, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
What would be the highest acceptable total before you wipe your hands clean?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't see going to two million.
I would say around 1.6, 1.7 as my absolute ceiling. He’s was properly evaluated value wise. No outside forces (i.e. strong academic commitment or football) driving his price up. He’s hurt and doesn’t seem likely to drive up his value significantly in JUCO.
I’m guessing he was asking 2 million and stood firm, but that’s just speculation.
Tools Whore
The first round thing but in english
ESPN’s Keith Law says he’s hearing "lots of reports of deals that are done, including “unsigned” first-rounders, whose contracts are being throttled by MLB to prevent other players/agents from using them as leverage." He expects there to be a flood of announcements from 11pm-12:30am ET tonight, so stay tuned.
Please be LeVon Please be LeVon Please be….. Dennis and LeVon!
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Well SI reported Strasburg declined his deal
So doubt he’s on that list, but he’s an idiot to decline 12.5M
by Transplanted on Aug 17, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh. I think he will on the list for 20 or so mil
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
unless something major happens between now and next year I don't see anyone taking Strasburg over that HS kid
how did I forget his name?
Bryce Harper
The things I would do to draft him
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
yea that guy
I was at a Team USA (college) game this summer in Cary, NC and he was there when they had the Tournament of Stars and from talk throughout the stands he was hitting 450-500 ft shots in BP with relative ease.
ESPN had a video of him hitting the back wall of Tropicana Field
I mean that was HIT, surprised he didnt make a hole in the wall
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
LET'S LOSE 40 IN A ROW!
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I wonder if that would even do it
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
list of players that could make that happen include
Brent Abernathy
Mickey Callaway
Danny Clyburn
Ben Grieve
Hideo Nomo
Herb Perry
Travis Phelps
Bryan Rekar
Ryan Rupe
Bobby Smith
Paul Sorrento
Brian Stokes
Shawn Camp
Greg Vaughn
Jason Tyner
Esteban Yan
Victor Zambrano
i think he is going to be the best catcher of all-time, hes the one player ive seen that deserves the hype
by Toe Finch on Aug 17, 2009 11:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We should sign Tony Saunders
Just so we could have an office pool about how long it takes for his arm to fall off
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
or break off.....
i didnt add him because i felt bad for him, ive been on the field when thats happened, in college the third baseman just had a easy throw to first on a soft grounder, heard a pop and he was down, same twisted bone thing
by Toe Finch on Aug 18, 2009 12:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
GO 2002 DEVIL RAYS, GO
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Bryce Harper is his name.
Although Harper got dominated last night in the AFLAC All-American game. 0-5 with 3K’s. But don’t think Harper is going to come cheap. He will want to break Strasburg’s bonus record and he’ll have leverage. He’s going to JUCO, playing against guys 2-3 years older than him. Teams will get him as what amounts to be a HS senior and if he performs up to his tools, he’ll have more leverage than anyone in draft history including Strasburg.
Tools Whore
Great, now I have to start making Harper injury jokes.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
They sign Strasburg there's a pretty good shot
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Harper just gives off a 'Catching Delmon Young' vibe
I dunno if he’ll ever put the tools together.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Not at all a ridiculous projection
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 17, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Delmon never worked hard.
This kid lives to play baseball.
Tools Whore
Until he burns out, gets on coke, and gets banned by baseball.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Or makes empty threats, has sex with a bunch of women, and gets ran out of town by the old white man.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Harper chose to be represented by agent Scott Boras, who claims that Harper will want to receive upwards of 70-100 million dollars in the 2010 Major League Baseball Draft.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
That wouldn't surpise me.
If he hits like he should, the leverage he has is absurd.
Tools Whore
Time for the Nationals to throw 70 million away.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He won't get it, but he'll ask for it.
If he hits, he’ll break the record Strasburg sets this year.
Tools Whore
He's not even good enough to play at a D1 school next year.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Parker did something similar to this at Clemson
He graduated in December of his senior year of high school, and enrolled early for football/baseball. He ended up having a really good season in 2008 (All-ACC) before taking a step back this past season.
didn't UNC have a kid this past season
who graduated HS a semester early and enrolled so he could play in the spring.
I don't know about UNC
But Robert Stock graduated a year early to go to USC. Not doing as well as he had hoped I’m sure (he was projected to be a top 10 pick coming out of high school, had he graduated), but he’s draft eligible next year. He’ll be catching AND in the starting rotation for USC. First season pitching regularly there – he’d only seen spot duty up to this point, but after putting up pedestrian hitting numbers the past two years, I guess he’s going what he can to improve his draft stock.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Robert Stock signed and is playing for the Cardinals Apply team.
He’s killing the ball for the record.
Tools Whore
Whoops
For some reason I thought he was heading into his junior year. Must have lost track of time.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Not only did he sign, but he signed for 20k under slot.
That’s very surprising. I know his stock plummeted (no pun intended), but man that’s surprising. I guess he wanted to make sure he got paid. He already cost himself at least 2 million dollars.
Tools Whore
I remember being impressed by his SAT score
Until someone told me that the SAT goes up to 2400 now.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I don't know about that
I went to a small D1 school, he prolly could play for us if it wasn’t for academics.
Clearly he was baiting me.
But otherwise when it comes to talent, he could play anywhere in the nation. If say he graduated early instead of dropping out, he could have played at any D-1 school in he would like.
Tools Whore
Isn't he too young to really venture?
He’s only like 16, that might affect it
by Transplanted on Aug 17, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm found this nugget looking for a ST HR from Josh Hamilton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCMGAV9xc9o
99 Hamilton homering for Princeton with Crawford on base.
Hammy hit a ball in Low-A over 550 feet. They know how far it went because the ball lodged in a river bank.
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I would love to bring back the old Colorado (pre-humidor)
and watch Hamilton, Gomes, and Harper take BP all day.
BR has a fun feature that park adjusts players to 2000 Colorado. Look at Barry Bonds 2002 season
could have looked like in Colorado.
Tools Whore
Twins have come from 7-2 to make it 7-5 in the 6th
come on guys!
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Not kissing ass here but...
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thanks and don't worry
RJ gets it in the ass all the time.
by Dbullsfan on Aug 17, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My guess is like 6.1 mil
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He should start for the Padres
They need help
by Transplanted on Aug 17, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The Padres announced it during the game
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 17, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's amazing how if you look at the TB Draft history for 1st rd picks
There’s a lot of lack of production on field for them, for whatever reasons.
Shields was a 16th rounder
There will prob be at least 1 star from this draft, who knows who it will be
Personally, I just think Bailey is going to be so awesome
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Yeah every draft you get a good player
Just saying, looking at past history, amazing how many never worked out to what they should’ve been
by Transplanted on Aug 17, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we has LeVon Washington nao?
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I'm not sure which would be more blue-balling.
Signing him with 5 minutes left, or not signing at all.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Having it come out we signed him at 12:30
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Saying we signed him with 5 minutes left AND not signing him at all?
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the Bay of draft picks
no no NO
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
I might burn something down if that happens
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No, either/or.
If we don’t sign him, then it’ll be disappointment.
If we do, I’ll be to used to the idea of not signing him to get too excited.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
give his money to Maddox...
Kaz/Shields/Garza/Sonny/Price/Davis/Hellickson-necessitate a drool cup or a 7 man rotation
by CubFanRaysaddict on Aug 17, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
damn would have been nice to
give Selig and his slotting system a big middle finger
Kaz/Shields/Garza/Sonny/Price/Davis/Hellickson-necessitate a drool cup or a 7 man rotation
by CubFanRaysaddict on Aug 17, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
How the fuck does Buster Olney get a week off in the middle of August?
WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE STEVE DUEMIG?
Boom. Outta Here.
Too busy bitching about the importance of pitch counts
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STFU
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I'M NOT LISTENING I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALALA
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No club ever does that. ever.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
We don't tend to posture publicly.
Tools Whore
First time for everything.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
There's probably a great chance they don't.
But posturing through the press release and constant quips makes sense.
You can’t spook Boras, you can spook Washington.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No way LeVon can ask for more
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Oliver was a 2nd rounder
Vroom vroom party starter
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 17, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not nearly as important as 1st/2nd round
Vroom vroom party starter
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 17, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Law says they signed Turner too
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 17, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
SIGN STRASBURG
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So if someone does not sign with the team that drafted them, then what happens?
They leave the draft?
No, they just re-enter at their next elligible draft.
LeVon going to indy/JuCO means next year.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Team gets draft picks and the player can re-enter the draft next year
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Welp
The Tigers have signed No. 9 overall pick Jacob Turner to a major league contract with a $4.7 million bonus (payable over six years) and a guaranteed value of $5.5 million. Depending on how quickly he reaches the majors, he could push the total value to nearly $7 million.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
That seems really high to me.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Same. Also, the ML deal seems..odd.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I don't remember him being touted as an elite talent.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Yeah...Well its Dombrowski, so there's that.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
BA had him rated as the best non-Strasburg pitcher.
And he was throwing out Porcello money as a comp pre-draft.
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SIGN LEVON NAO
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"Don't expect to sign" is not very definitive.
“Next to impossible” kinda is.
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I find it hard to believe we were throwing in the towel 12 hours before the deadline.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, we drafted him not to sign him
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
The reports even a couple days ago
was they wanted to get him in and get a physical to make sure his shoulder was healing properly (which is exactly what’s being reported today) and that hasn’t happened. They may have the medical records from June, but they want their doctors to check him out today and without them and given the difference in asking price (no idea what his was) they saw no way to make it happen.
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I don't see us drafting him if we felt his shoulder was a concern.
There’s a red board for those matters. As far as I know, he wasn’t on it.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Or we drafted him with the assumption that he would come in for a physical so the team could see his recovery progress of his shoulder
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Ba a man
I’m doing homework in the middle of all this
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eer Be a man
I fail
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You traded one hell for another
Good job
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I'm in grad school
I get both
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It really is odd and unexpected
which gives me hope
I mean A) Rays always sign their first rounder but much more so B) they NEVER announce anything until its over and they announced they wont sign LeVon this morning
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
question as far as the money is concerned
while it isn’t a huge amount, if we don’t sign these top picks will we be able to use the money saved in the off-season. cough help trade for Gonzalez cough
can we still trade for Gonzalez lol
but in theory would it increase the draft budget for next year if we decide to draft another Boras guy or something.
hes cheap anyway
but neither is a DH, I wonder where Pena would go and what we would give up
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
if we can convince someone to trade for Pena
between him, Bartlett, and Kaz and what we have we should be able to build a prospect package for Gonzalez plus still keep C.C. It would prolly start with Davis + what we get for Barty/Kaz. I’m not sure we could get a bunch back for Pena and definately not as much as the other 2 guys, although I could be wrong.
well it wouldn't be every single player moving
I’ve said before I could see this off-season being very videogameish (new word). With Brignac, Joyce, Davis/Hellickson plus the thought we will need/get a new catcher. I could see at least 3-4 regulars getting traded. We can either hang onto all the prospects we get in return or turn them (not all but some) into other cheaper ML players who are good like a Gonzalez type who SD seems to be shopping for some reason.
we can def cash in for Barty
and its too smart not too
the spects he would bring back would be awesome and Pena in his last year should at least bring something back. I am stuck in the past and wanna keep Kazmir but with all those spects from Barty and Pena, I don’t think Davis would be needed as well
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
I think we should do the same with Crawford
unless he gives us a great home town discount we aren’t going to be able to resign him and his stock isn’t going to be higher than this off-season most likely and Joyce is ready to take over an OF spot.. Although it would be sad to see him go
CC in a FA year may be even better
I would hold on to him, take the picks and let Jennings take over
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
maybe we can convince Florida to give us Maybin plus a few of their stud arms
Deezy/Upton/Maybin although not CC/Deezy/Upton is pretty damn sexy too.
Maybin reminds me of the old CC
so much potential but in the minors and the SSS in the majors, he hacks at everything
Maybe to the hated Phillies for a package involving Taylor
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
he can do one thing no one else in TB seems to be able too
hit lefties, at least in the minors ,998 OPS this year, .897 career.
Trade him to the Dodgers or something
they can afford to keep him and he will be far far away from being able to kill us
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
I just read on twitter than Friedman has hired Kenny Powers and JP Howell to handle negotiations...
… for the last hour with Boras/LeVon.
*LeVon’s cell rings
Kenny Fucking Powers: pick up the fucking phone…
JP Howell: he hasn’t picked up yet? lol
KFP: what a dickhead. 4 rings now.
JP: give him a second, hey let’s get chinese takeout.
KFP: hell no, i won’t eat my dinner with sticks
JP: we can use forks, lol
KFP: order a fucking pizza man, they deliver and they speak english
JP: hawaiin good?
KFP: NO, if i ever pay for fruit on my pizza please fucking hit me in the face for being an asshole
JP: lolol, ok no fruit.
*LeVon picks up after 8 rings
LW: hello?
KFP: hey dickhead thanks for answering your phone
LW: uh, who is this?
KFP: its Kenny Fucking Powers man, listen, i know you may want to go to college so you can gang-bang some olsen twin-looking bitches in gainesville, but trust me, you can get look-a-likes for cheaper than you think.
LW: who?
JP: hey dude, its JP Howell , lol, i’m one of the lefties out of the pen
LW: oh hey
KFP: look dude, I don’t know your situation or whatever, but you should fucking sign a contract with Tampa right now. this place is fucking incredible
LW: ok, yeah i wanted to…
KFP: then do it homes, you got like a fucking hour left. and we’ve got a pizza and hookers coming, so we won’t be on the phone too much longer to suck your dick
JP: i can’t remember the pizza place’s number…
KFP: what?, hold on LeVan
*turns to JP
KFP: look in the phone book man
JP: i tore it up and used it for papers last week, lol
KFP: fuck me
LW: hello?
KFP: hey, yeah. so you should sign with Tampa, because if you don’t, you don’t know where you might end up. fucking Jew York, or even worse, with the fags in San Francisco. plus you should sign now while someone still wants your shit. you never know what could happen next year. GET PAID, BITCH
JP: yeah, get paid, lol.
KFP: JP, order some pizzas, bitch. i got the whores settled an hour ago. do your fucking part.
JP: i’ll need the phone to call kazzy, he’s always good with the numbers.
LW: i think it sounds cool as hell there.
KFP: yeah man, let’s fuck
LW: let’s fuck
JP: lol, yeah
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signed, sealed, rec'd, delievered
and for my final act I shall hold LeVon at gun point
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
loled and rec'd
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I'm honestly dumbfounded right now.
I’m not sure what is happening.
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You're just as stoned as he is
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I feel bad for LeVon because he's going to be the villain no matter what now.
Can’t blame him for wanting more cash or hiring Boras though.
oh yea as much as fans criticize agents like Boras and fuck the NFL guy w/e his name is
Those are the first guys I’d try to get if I needed an agent.
Players get a raw deal their first three years in the pros (if they reach it)
Really, really can’t hate the kid for wanting an extra x amount if within reason.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Drew Rosenhaus
And if I was a second-tier draft prospect or free agent, I wouldn’t touch Boras with a 10-foot pole. He works hard for the guys who make him big bucks, not so much for the others.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I don't feel bad for him.
If I was a player, I’d hire Boras too. The man is brilliant. However it is his fault, if he doesn’t sign because he overvalues himself. He should absolutely hold out and get as much money as possible though. And if he confident enough in his own ability that he can up his value next year by getting his shoulder healthy and playing well then he shouldn’t sign. It’s risky, but good for him.
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Well, we have no idea how involved he actually is.
There’s a chance this is a Carlos Pena/Boras situation.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Nats are gonna offer more now
By all means, take your time, not like there is less than 45 mins left
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
The Nationals have to make that deal
What’s worse is that Boras KNOWS they have to make this deal happen
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It would be one hell of a documentary
24 hours with Scott Boras on deadline day.
I feel significantly less confident than I did 30 secs ago.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
How so?
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Friend who has a job with an org.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Also, lobstein's velo is apparently low 90s.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I don't get the nice get part
nice get is having a guy fall to you you don’t expect.
Maybe I’m crazy but I think if you draft a guy, especially early you should be pretty confident you can sign him and doing so shouldn’t be some applauded thing it should be expected.
O's sign Mychal Gyvens
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Congrats on not being banned yet
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SIGN LEVON NAO
DO IT ANDY
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I WANT A SANO
oh….bad timing, wrong thread
my bad
come on LeVon, come on Nats
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
........asshole
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I have none.
I was told we may have a ton of picks next year this morning. That’s the only thing I’ve heard all day.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope that doesn't mean we plan on not picking up CC's option and offering him arb
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Why haven't we signed anyone?
LeVon/Kenny brought bad news hours ago but its like Friedman got stoned and said “fuck it” about all the unsigned picks today
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Seriously
If we’re gonna sign Washington, throw the money at Pierce Johnson
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 17, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Friedman doesn't care about black prospects
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well I heard that he wanted to meet them all personally
but they were too lazy too leave their ghettos
Those assholes
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That's about normal
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Although now that we have a GCL team
I would have expected a few more signings.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Just have hard slots for like 1.5x as much as they are now for the 1st-2nd rounders
by Graham MacAree on Aug 17, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop after round 10
Like they do now
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
So basically in round 11 teams would go crazy drafting all the reach picks
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
If they're feeling lazy, just say 'after round 10, every bonus is x'
It’s not like teams are actually competing with each other that that point, they’re just picking up random guys who’ve caught the eye
by Graham MacAree on Aug 17, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
If they did that
Dual sport athletes would stop going into baseball.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I want hard slotting with Minor league payroll based on pick.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Just allowing teams to trade picks alleviates the problem quite a bit.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Seeing top talent going to the Yankees and Red Sox would make me want to kill myself
by Graham MacAree on Aug 17, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly think every team would take the reaches there though
Then each team can only try getting one or two of those guys, barring trades (which I feel pretty strongly should be allowed).
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Presumably they'd need to give up something in return
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Depends. Some teams might be desperately trying to dump salary
I think that if draft trades become legal next year, Harper goes to the Yankees, for example. Washington and Kansas City would probably rather have a later first rounder and an extra $15M in the pocket.
by Graham MacAree on Aug 17, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And don't forget a few prospects that are already in pro ball
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yeah, I just can see those trades getting really silly when a team is desperately trying to get out of paying a top draft pick millions
by Graham MacAree on Aug 17, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
But if you have the slotting....
Not sure how well slotting will work as long as there are international signing options though. The agents would just find workarounds by having kids head to the Dominican for a couple months.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Yeah, there will always be loopholes
To be honest, I find this system pretty fun
by Graham MacAree on Aug 17, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly think this system ends up being a lot more inequitable
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Hard slotting or current being the least equitable?
by Graham MacAree on Aug 17, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Current
You really think the Pirates draft Tony Sanchez if there’s hard slotting?
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Yeah, this system sucks for equality.
I’m just saying that today is a lot of fun even though I am currently mildly stressed
by Graham MacAree on Aug 17, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If I'm the Nats GM I say
“Montero, Jackson, and 5 mil”
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I'm not sure exactly how slotting works
but why not have it where every pick has a range of say 500,000 (early, and less by pick/round) and the contract has to be in those ranges. That way there isn’t this over-slotting because it wouldn’t be allowed and if a team tries to sign someone for more than baseball voids the deal and same goes for under range. A team would be required to offer at least the minimum for that pick although would be allowed to forego a draft pick (not pick a player.)
I heard about Strasburgh's crazy delivery
looks simple to me, doesnt look like he is about to blow out his arm
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
BUT INVERTED W!!!!!111
M
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/Remaining Nationals fans kill themselves
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You wouldn't know whether he was going to blow his arm or not by his delivery.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't make me get Kyle Boddy over here
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lemme tell you whats going to happen.
around midnight it is going to be reported that we have signed him and than about 1230 there will be a breaking news update that MLB has allowed the Red Sox to sign LW and that the Rays must forego next years pick because he was signed.
SIGN LEVON
COME THE FUCK ON ANDY
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Imagine he already has a deal in place
and he is on this very board watching everyone getting antsy and doing some kinda evil laugh
stop with the tease Andy!
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Everyone should
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I'm fairly sure he just hands agents' blank contracts
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
LeVon can't hit, he can't throw, He can't field, He can't breath.
/Matthan’d
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I'm looking forward to this
better be <.05
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 17, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It's actually 0.95.
Which fits what I was trying to prove perfectly.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wil Myers got 2 mil
Jesus
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Told you he wanted first round money.
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I'm glad you still remember arguments from 3 months ago
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Zack Wheeler gets 3.3 mil
THAT much less than Turner?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
A bonus larger than Price in a worse economy still seems excessive to me
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Price's bonus was a million more.
And his overall contract was worth 1.5 million more.
Tools Whore
8 unsigned 1st rounders
Why must you be 1 of them LeVon?
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
really? Thats ridiculous. he hasn't played in 4 years. cuse must b desparate.
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 17, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing you haven't watched Syracuse lately.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Have they won a game since Donovan McNabb graduated?
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They DID upset Notre Dame, which was lolzy
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How much eligibility does he have left anyway?
One year? Four years, since he never played football before? I just have no idea.
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One
You can count your first year of another sport (basketball) as a redshirt year for your second sport. (football)
One year. You have 5 years of eligibility in college period.
It doesn’t matter if you play sports or not. So despite playing basketball 4 years, he could claim one of those as a redshirt in football and still play his fifth.
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SIGN LEVON
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Okay, there's really no reason for the Mets to be sticking when it's a 300k difference.
You’re the Mets. You blew more than that on countless crappy players.
Omar loves to slot. It's weird.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It's not weird. He's not good at his job.
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I typically refrain from criticizing GM's because there is a lot to go into decisions
that we don’t see, but that man is absolutely awful at managing a baseball team.
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OT pt 2: In an ESPN magazine poll of college football players
Do you notice the cheerleaders at other schools?
An overwhelming 81 percent answered yes. Players singled out seven schools:
2 of the schools listed were from the state of florida, any guesses?
Not USF
Probably UM and FSU
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/Jenn Sterger
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FIU and FAU
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The other can't be USF
Unless they’ve really improved since I graduated. The team had serious cankles when I was there.
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GCSU
New College
Eckerd
Barry
UT
SPC
Alachua Community College
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UF and UCF?
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FIU/USF?
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Yay. I win!
_
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Has anything happened with Ackley?
That negotiation has been really quiet.
Zduriencik never does.
He drafted Matt LaPorta in Milwaukee as an OF without any whispers from any source period.
Tools Whore
If this shit gets announced at 12:20 I'mma be pissed
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
For like three minutes
I’ll be pissed a lot longer if he doesn’t sign
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SIGN LEVON
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That week that Ryan Zimmerman had the hit streak going was pretty fun.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Didn't they win, like, 8 straight games a couple of weeks ago?
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Aw, c'mon
Even we turned it around
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SIGN LEVON
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LEVON HAS BEEN SIGNED, RIGHT ANDY?
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.
BenBadlerRT @BaseballAmerica Tracy Ringolsby reports Rockies sign Tyler Matzek. Bonus at $3.9 million.
It's absurd that Matzek signed and not Washington
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Yahoo! Sports' Tim Brown: Strasburg signing close for $15 million
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Fantastic deal for the Nats if that's the case.
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NATIONALS!
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THAT ASSHOLE
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Not this time
They actually did something right
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If that is the case
I’m really disappointed we didn’t add a guy like Floro, Dennis, or Johnson.
Good for them
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Thank you kind sir.
I don’t understand twitter. I wish these people would use facebook!
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SI_JonHeymanackley is going to seattle. big league deal. $9.5 mil. #mariners
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Oh my lord!
He freaking got Teixeira money! I’m shocked.
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BaseballAmericaAaron Fitt reports Strasburg signs. MLB deal worth $15.67 million over 4 years.
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NATIONALS!
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so it is 4 years once he is in the big leagues
which is going to be mid-season next year latest, with the Nats it wouldn’t shock me if he opens the season there.
No.
It’s just to spread the bonus.
He’s under Nats control for six big league seasons.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't work that way.
Draft contracts don’t mean the teams control them any less time.
Tools Whore
It potentially does
It means he uses up an option from day 1. Or they have to send him to the majors now and he starts accruing service time.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Okay, but I mean from a service time perspective.
Not from an actual control perspective. Options aren’t expected to be an issue with him.
Tools Whore
Probably not
But stranger things have happened.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
If he's not in the show in 3 years, he's probably never going to be anything
in the big leagues anyway because his shoulder was destroyed.
Tools Whore
No, he'll be arbitration eligible
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Over only 4 years though
Which means it’s really for more like $40 million through free agency
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
The brilliant part
Is that if it’s 4 years, it forces the Nats to either call him up right now, or pay out the wazoo in year 5, because a player’s salary can only go down to 80% of the previous year in arbitration. If he’s scheduled to make $7M in his 4th year, then that guarantees him over $5M in year 5, and if he actually does well, he’ll get a significant increase over that. Could end up setting a record for most money made in arbitration.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He's going to be arbitration eligible for the first time the season his 4 year deal runs out
Which is why this deal is so brilliant. He gets every penny of his bonus without any overlap in arbitration.
Tools Whore
But on top of it, even if he sucks, he'll get big money
Because he’ll be making so much before he’s arb eligible.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Well, if he sucks bad enough to not be worth 5 million they'll just non-tender him.
But you’re right, even if he’s not very good, assuming he can throw a baseball at a somewhat acceptable level, he’s basically guaranteed himself 25-30 million dollars in career earnings. Simply amazing.
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HAVE WE SIGNED LEVON?
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JonathanMayoB3Hearing Rangers' top pick Matt Purke did not come to terms. Waiting to find out for sure, but looks like he might be TCU-bound.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I absolutely love that it's a 4 year deal instead of the standard 6.
This way he’s guaranteed to get all 15 million without having to opt out at arbitration like Price. Fantastic for both sides.
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kingclipHearing from some that #Rangers 1st round pick DID sign
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
BaseballAmericaIndians have signed first-rounder Alex White for $2.25 million.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
So
Not signed
Aaron Crow – Royals (has til June)
LeVon Washing – Rays (fuck you)
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
add Matt Purke - Rangers to that list
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at least LeVon wont wind up being the only one....
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
kingclipNope, Purke did not
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
That's because their site crashed completely.
Tools Whore
That's could be the steal of the draft.
Tools Whore
Wouldn't surprise me if they give him one
It’s probably the better business move to send him straight to the majors and have him mostly sitting on the bench. Only uses up 15 days of service time and no option that way.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Plus then they have one game when they sell well
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Thats what I would do
Announce that a game in September(say like September 14th) is the only one he’ll start. Instant sellout
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 18, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Some report will most likely leak, but we'll never know for sure.
My guess and it’s just a guess is that they offered him last years slot (1.2 million) and he stood firm at 2 million and wouldn’t budge.
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kingclipGrant Green bonus: $2.75M, straight bonus. Great deal for #A's
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
JonathanMayoB3Tyler Matzek, Rockies top #mlbdraft pick, is a done deal at $3.9 million
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Holy shit they got him cheap
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 18, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
its really gonna happen isnt it
a Strasburgh/Harper battery
my god
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
I can see it now
October 2012: Nationals win World Series
December 2012: World Ends
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Isn't the world supposed to end BEFORE the world series?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Unless the World Series extends to 12/21/2012
Then no
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So we have that going for us.....which is nice
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Nope
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
The basketball player?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Well.
SI_JonHeyman#mets got their man matz for $895,000. he’s a long island kid with good stuff. throws 94 now.
Law just said we didn't sign him
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 18, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
heres your official word
He thinks he is worth more than Kyle Gibson and isnt even going to the college he wanted
good work, LeVon
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Jays
Though they signed a supplemental 1st rounder
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 18, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
what is this strange sensation?
I believe, yes, it is disappointment. It’s been a long time.
Your source for replacement level commentary
Well I guess this is official
I want Sano please, thanks
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
levon not signing is truly bizarre.
i really wonder what is going through that kid’s head.
this times 10000
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Micheal Crabtree's "advisor"
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chains chains and more chains
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
by thedudeofdudes on Aug 18, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Well.....fuck
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here you guys go, take you r frustrations out here
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I'm pretty sure we know for sure now don't we?
Everyone has said we didn’t sign him.
Tools Whore
I dunno, I sent out an email.
KG hadn’t heard anything either.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
For sure?
Both papers are reporting it didn’t get done, and Law.
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 18, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
They could've at least signed Floro
cheap basterds
by thedudeofdudes on Aug 18, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
we decided it was a better investment to agree to terms with special hitting instructer
Batting Stance Guy
Great
I always wanted a team that looked like Kevin Youkilis while batting!My dream is 1 step closer
by thedudeofdudes on Aug 18, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean, wow
(Levon thinking) “Hmm I may never be at full strength again, I am not getting into the college I wanted, I have about 1.5 mil on the table…seems sensible to turn it down”
This man does not have the brain of Fernando Perez
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
he's above average intelligence
and for a baseball player that probably puts him in the top 1%
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 18, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
He's an ivy league graduate. He's elite.
Tools Whore
I work with a lot of ivy league graduates who are complete dumbasses
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
But book smart doesn't necessarily mean actually smart
Usually it’s the opposite with the people I’m talking about – they’re hard working, but they lack any capacity for independent thought.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
It's not hard to graduate from an ivy league school
the hard part is getting in, which is made substantially easier by being good at sports.
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 18, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not UF or FSU. They're not getting in because they're good at sports.
It doesn’t work that way in the Ivy league. Sports aren’t exactly a top priority at Columbia.
Tools Whore
I'm an Ivy League grad
Even the dumbass jocks are still fairly smart, it’s all relative
by Albertrayon on Aug 18, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, you're wrong
you do have to be reasonable intelligent to get in if you’re a good athlete, but you certainly don’t need to be elite. The standards are much different for athletes and non-athletes. Even at Harvard.
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 18, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but no sports scholarships
plus very little flexibility in terms of academic requirements still means that even the athletes are pretty well rounded
by Albertrayon on Aug 18, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
one of my favorite FP quotes
He added with a smile: "When I get to second base, most guys are shocked when I speak English. They’re assuming that I’m just another Fernando Perez from the Dominican Republic."
Or his rehab could be going so well he thinks he could up his stock in JUCO and go
in the middle of the first round and make an extra million next year.
Tools Whore
LeVon Washington: EPIC FAIL
Dumbass
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uggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Well we aviod a potential head case for our organization
Levon woulda been the next Elijah Dukes head case with that mentality
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Oh get the hell out of here with that.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
any idiot (except this one)
would have signed knowning he has no place important to play.
Scott Boras fucks up the world for another year
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
You don't even know the kid or the details and yet you're bashing the hell out of him?
If he would’ve signed you would be praising him as an upstanding young man?
This could be entirely on the Rays lowballing him. You don’t know.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Players are always the villains. Always the greedy morons.
It’s always their fault.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
No I blame Boras for this
He is the master mind behind this all. He gets in these kids heads tell them they can obtain astronomical amounts of money
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
How dare Boras take money from billionaires.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know, maybe I'm old fashion here
I love the game of baseball, I guess some people need as much money as they can get to love the game/job they play
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Back in the olden days when owners made all of the money
controlled players rights for their entire careers and didn’t have to pay them fairly. Back in the good ole’ days!
Tools Whore
Yup get excessive on unproven amatures
Stealing from rich to poor isn’t the arguement here
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
You realize that players in their first three years (and first six really) get paid dog meat compared to their real value, right?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah usually every rounder but 1 and 2
Rookie league makes about $3000 a season and the maximum Triple A player is like almost 6 figures depending on status.
Minor league baseball is like weeding out the talented from the busts.
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
well not really 1 and 2 because they are locked up in contracts anyway
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
So, the owners pay "excessive" for 6+ years of slavery.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
over the course of their farm system no
specifically I’m saying that for one player, there could be some major oversight on their ability which could lead to excessive payouts.
I’m pretty much giving up on this, I think you made your point.
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Well can I atleast have some anamosity for Bryce Harper?
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
in more ways than one
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Baseball players have the strongest union in the world.
I have no sympathy for any of them.
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 18, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't think that's true
animosity means wishing ill will towards
...And his original comment asked for animosity towards Harper.
Why? I don’t know.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
hard work and dedication is what earns you the money.
You prove yourself and gain respect around the business, you get what you deserve.
Harper sounds like a complete punk and going to JUCO and skipping his final year of high school aka life as a kid, is purely asinine.
His pro career will always “be there” as some of you pointed out for other non-signees of Boras
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
This is pointless.
I’m simply not going to make character judgments based on his desire to enter the draft a year early.
So he wants to dedicate his life to baseball early, whatever. If he burns out on it, his fault, if he doesn’t and it works out, good for him.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
whatever the case
I won’t bother continuing the Bryce Harper comment.
Besides he’ll enter next years draft and not get signed because the team drafting him (the Nationals) won’t have the money for him
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
High School is awesome. Best time of your life right?
For who? Who actually likes HS? Honestly, you have no money, no freedom and go to school 6 hours a day starting at 7am. That sucks. Why wouldn’t you go to college 2 years early and become a multimillionaire and set yourself up financially for the rest of your life? I would say not taking that opportunity would be asinine.
Tools Whore
Thats your opinion on school
your taking into account only negative things
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
high school was a fantastic time
i loved my senior year. college senior year may have been a bit better, but not by much.
Im not saying i think Harper is doing something stupid, though.
who needs friends when you got money
Money loves you right?
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Where are his friends going?
He’s going to college in his hometown. And you don’t make friends in college? Or playing baseball?
Tools Whore
I'm with Tyler
College rocked. High school sucked.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
referring to players who willings signed contracts
as a form of slavery is beyond stupid.
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 18, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Call it indentured servitude then.
And stop being so smug.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
either one is a ridiculous exagerration.
and you know it.
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 18, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you seriously going to fight me over verbiage instead of my actual point?
My heavens.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree with the point either
both owner and player is taking a risk when signing a contract after being drafted. I don’t see the position of the player as being particularly bad.
Yes both are taking risks.
Nobody said otherwise.
The player has every right to try and get what he considers is fair value. That’s why he has an agent like Boras. If Boras mislead or miscalculated his value, then shame on him, but I don’t see a problem with a player going for more money.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
me neither
I just don’t think its anything like indentured servitude, etc. It’s actually a pretty nice situation for the players. That is what having the strongest union in the world does for you.
How many people bring up Matt Harrington?
Boras wasn’t Matt Harrington’s agent until like the 3rd time he got drafted. It wasn’t his fault.
What about all the players he’s maximized their value? Luke Hochevar was a villain turning down the 2.25 million the Dodgers offered him. A jerk, they stopped negotiations with him. He got him over double that the next year when he went 1-1.
Tools Whore
I dont know
I mean from what little we know, its just seems like he has very little options and who wouldn’t want to wake up and get paid to play baseball? isn’t he coming off of major surgery? and academically ineligible for UF?
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
And if the Rays were offering less than slot, does that still make him a moron to decline it?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
....and so they low ball him
and then he never obtains a higher value than what the Rays were offering? I mean its give or take here
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
This sentence doesn't make any sense.
So a player should feel honored that a team selected them and just accept whatever they offer despite the market value?
Lets say you’re a teacher by trade and that’s what you’ve always wanted to do your entire life. Got to school and learn how to teach, graduate top of your class with honors. Well the average starting salary is 37K for a teach, but the school district decides they only want to pay you 23K. Would you take that? Does it make any sense to take that when you can go to another district and make more money even if you have to wait till next school year.
Tools Whore
You wanna know what you are right RJ!
The Rays aren’t stupid either. They knew they drafted Levon too high so they probably did only offer him slot or below.
There I figured out why we didn’t sign him
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
You first sentence is the key. You know nothing.
Scott Boras is exceptionally good at his job.
Tools Whore
After Kenny Diekroger gradates from Stanford as a genius
Lets draft him again
Him and Bailey were my 2 fav picks
1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
all in the middle portion to late parts of the rounds.
Which means they (the FO) better budget for it
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
If they draft college seniors
they better not be paying slot money. Other than Newmann and the occasional other oddball player who actually has a good real world job lined up, college seniors have no leverage and usually end up signing for a fraction of slot.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
No Percival = Actual fucking budget room
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OT
does anyone know anything about the Pioneer league? if it is a pitcher or hitter friendly league? just wondering cause a buddy of mine is pitching in it.
pitcher friendly (rookie league ball)
most kids are transitioning from aluminum to wood bats for the first time, so hitters usually are slow to catch on. Pitchers usually do well
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
ehh your friend might be a good pitcher.
These kids also play wooden bat leagues in the summer during their college years so they have some experience but they are still learning
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Not really that pitcher friendly
The stadiums are mostly up in the mountains. IIRC, it’s a slight hitter’s league, much more so than the Appy league.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'm not reading through the rest of this nonsense
What’s the final verdict?
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
nada
Couldn’t come to terms with 1 or 2
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
There were never any terms to come to with #2.
Tools Whore
Yeah Golden Boy's got it made
He’ll be driving off the Golden Gate bridge in no time.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Golden Boy needs to lay off the fishnets
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
yeah right
they could persuade him to consider signing. Thats not coming to terms….its just pre-contract details
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by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
couldn't*
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
They never once discussed money, so there were no terms.
His family thought about baseball but his multimillionaire father decided he’d be just fine financially going to Stanford and pro ball would still be there in 3 or 4 years.
Tools Whore
if you believe the rays on that
then you should believe they offered levon slot. In which case, he was stupid to turn it down.
by RaysTheRoof on Aug 18, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually would be shocked if the Rays didn't offer Levon last years slot.
But if LeVon and Boras think he can get more next year after a year of JUCO and rehab that shoulder then it might turn out to be the right move.
Hochevar fell to the supplemental first round, fired Boras, agreed to a contract worth 2.25 million, backed out of the contract, rehired Boras, had the Dodgers completely stop negotiating with him. They bad mouthed him publicly and privately. Was ripped relentlessly by everyone for his immaturity and stupidity. How was he going to turn down all that money? Well, he signed a 5.3 million dollar contract the next year as the #1 overall pick. Boras knows what he’s doing, ultimately it’s LeVon’s decision and just because you or the majority don’t think it’s the right one doesn’t mean it won’t turn out to be.
Tools Whore
well, i guess we'll find out in a year or two
whether it was the right decision
You cant tell me that they didn't atleast entertain him with a hypothetical number
Thats stupid to get drafted #2 and not atleast ask what you would’ve gotten
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Sweet, the prophecies came true
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The breakdown of Strasburg and Tate
From baseball America
Stephen Strasburg:
Four-year major league deal, $7.5 million bonus, $7.6 million in salaries (including pro-rated $400,000 salary for remainder of 2009), $15.1 million total guaranteed. Also various incentives based on big league award voting.
Dustin Ackley:
Five-year major league deal, $6 million bonus, $1.5 million in guaranteed salaries, another $2.5 million possible in salaries depending on how quick he reaches the majors, $7.5 million total guaranteed.
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
Ackley I mean (not Tate)
and I suck at formating
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
by Gone Phishing on Aug 18, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
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