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The Rays Offense Dislikes James Shields

If yesterday's game post was titled Jeff Niemann Dislikes The Royals then it's only fitting that today's be titled Rays Offense Dislikes James Shields. 

Shields was fantastic today, no hitting the Royals through seven innings.  However,  'fantastic' is not a word that could be used to describe the offense. 

Here's a list of the American League pitchers who get worse run support than James Shields:

1. Edwin Jackson

2. No one

 

That's it.  That's the list.  Coming into today's game Shields was getting 3.63 runs of support.  That's pathetic for an offense that ranks 4th in baseball in runs scored.  In fact it's beyond pathetic.  Brian Bannister is an interesting pitcher, but that's nearly entirely based on his knowledge of his own pitch f/x data.  There's no reason a pitcher with 72Ks in 116IP should strike out 7 Ray's batters.  Bannister pitched a good game, but there was no reason it should have been that good.  The entire Rays offense should get together and send James Shields some I'm Sorry Balloons, a basket of apology kittens, or one of giant cookies with 'We're Sorry" written on it in icing.  Something.

-We've been Pat Burrell's biggest supports all season long.  That may have to change soon.  It's getting harder and harder to defend Burrell as the season goes on.  I'm pretty sure Burrell's baseball skills didn't magically vanish in a season, but for whatever reason he hasn't hit near what he is capable of.  I know Burrell makes $7million this season, but it may be time that Willy Aybar starts to get consistant at bats in the DH hole.

-I'm not going to discuss the 8th inning.  It was a disaster and talking about it is only going to make me more upset.  Lets just move on.

-In poker, they say that you shouldn't chastise an opponent for making a bad play.  You don't want your opponent to realize the error of his ways and start to play better.  You want him to continue to make the same mistakes.  With that said, maybe we should have all been quiet last week when Trey Hillman did not use Joakim Soria once in the Rays three game sweep of KC.  The Rays came back in the 8th inning of each of the three games, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat while Soria failed to throw a pitch.  In today's game the Royals were up two runs in the 8th inninng and Hillman brought in Soria for the six out save.  Maybe Hillman's finally tired of constantly being made fun of. 

-Shields is now 6-8 on the season while Jeff Niemann has 10 wins.  Thus proving once again why pitcher won/loss records need to be ignored. 

-The Rays had hoped to win 3 of the 4 games against KC, but with Zach Greinke on the hill tomorrow those odds just went way down.  Hopefully Scott Kazmir can pitch the way he did against the Yankees earlier this week to give the Rays good momentum heading into the Boston series.

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That's pretty amazing

That both Greinke & King Felix are getting more RPG than Shields with the 2 worst offense teams in the AL(They were 29th & 30th in July with the Rays 28th =( )

by Transplanted on Aug 2, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, on that Aybar for DH thing

He was asked by a reporter during the Post-game against NY and he dodged it, obviously it’s an issue he doesn’t want to deal with, must be pressure somewhere.

by Transplanted on Aug 2, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It wasn't.

You said, “Aybar”, and then used “he” without mentioning Maddon.

Is there a school house rock on pronouns?

by plasticman on Aug 2, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

But that’s why I took quantum mechanics, and not Lang or Lit at University

by Transplanted on Aug 2, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found it on youtube. It's terrible.

I think the Rays are going to need some quantum mechanics if they are going to make the playoffs.

by plasticman on Aug 2, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Problem is there has been no consistancy

And way too many mistakes, that’s been the big difference between 08 & 09, just making plays.

Is there a job for teams where they hire scientists to improve the team a la George Costanza

by Transplanted on Aug 2, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he should be the DH

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by raysfan81 on Aug 2, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huge loss, NYY and BOS win

needed a 7-2 homestand, now lucky to be over 500

by Raymondo on Aug 2, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Well that wasn't fun.
Shields is now 6-8 on the season why Jeff Niemann has 10 wins. Thus proving once again why pitcher won/loss records need to be ignored.

As for this, Shields has been marginally better than Niemann, if better at all. Niemann has an ever so slightly lower tRA and an ever so slightly higher FIP. Niemann has been fantastic lately.

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by Tyler on Aug 2, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That was absolutely terrible

And Ive been a massive Burrell supporter all season, but as you said thats all got to end at some point. He looks completely lost up there. He just doesnt make adjustments. He cant catch up to the outside fastball, so he just sits there and watches it. I was wondering for the longest time why he hasnt gotten anything inside all year, and then I had this revelation that its because HE CANT FUCKING HIT ANYTHING ELSE.

by BJ the Bossman on Aug 2, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope they're both able to turn it around

for ‘10, cause besides the financial drain, there are two big holes in the middle of the line up that we’re stuck with

by Raymondo on Aug 2, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

pena --> texas for chris davis

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by raysfan81 on Aug 2, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

im guessing someone would want him

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by raysfan81 on Aug 2, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Pena is slumping

You cant really talk about this slump while discounting his entire first half. Not that he hasnt been disappointing, but its nothing next to Burrell.

by BJ the Bossman on Aug 2, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burrell is awful

How many K’s this homestand? I’ve been to three games and in those three there were at least 6 that I recall. Some on 3 pitches.

The guy should be absolutely embarrassed by his contract and lack of performance. Maddon needs to put Aybar in for him.

Think about it…June was our best month and the guys was out of the lineup for most of it. Would be interesting to see the exact splits with him out of the lineup.

Run differential suggests '09 > '08. Actual results may vary.

by mrmilergd on Aug 2, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Maddon needs to be a little more proactive and stop having so much faith in his players

What harm could it do to move BJ down to the bottom of the order and put JB at leadoff? How much worse could things be if we had Willy Aybar DH’ing instead of Pat the Bust?

by acablue on Aug 2, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Aybar should be DHing more often

Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks

by matthan on Aug 2, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carl Pavano got more wins than Shields with an ERA over 5

shows how difficult it is to rack up wins when you have to go against the top opponent’s 1st or 2nd pitcher everytime.

by sofladude77 on Aug 2, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

17-11

but yeah ERA of 5.01. I believe he was 3rd in the rotation on the team which helped his run support a lot. He was behind Mussina and Wang as far as I know.

by sofladude77 on Aug 2, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised Shields

hasn’t completely lost it and started smashing Gatorade coolers and buckets of gum in the dugout. I’m not generally a fan of getting all pissed off and going on postgame tirades, but it’s at the point where if Big Game went on one, I wouldn’t blame him.

The whole offense needs to hear it from somebody, and if it’s another player so much the better. I mean Shields goes out and pitches his balls off (again) and this dunderhead offense can’t even score one goddamn run against the Royals, who might be the worst team in baseball right now. And it’s not like this is a fluke, they’ve been awful for a month straight. This might be arguably worse than having a perfect game thrown on them.

by untexan on Aug 3, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I used to think this way

I don’t anymore.

I think it’s the exact opposite. They’re fully aware that they’re not scoring runs for him and as a result, are wringing sawdust out of the bats because they’re squeezing them so hard. I’d be interested in how many baserunning errors and strikeouts with RISP have come while Shields was on the mound vs the other starters, particularly ones not named Garza (since his run support hasn’t been that much better). If it were me, the first start Shields has after the September callups, I’m running out the Durham offense regardless of circumstance.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 3, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

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