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Cheer for Not-Boston Tonight

So the Rays entered this series four back of Boston and depending on what happens at Fenway tonight, could close the series with the same gap.  I suppose the good news is the three-game gap to Texas is now only two, but in the long run that means next to nothing. With 39 games remaining and 3-4 games to make up, times are still tough.  The Rays have six more games to play against Boston, with half coming at home, and three on the road against Texas. I suppose many are going to write that the Rays control their own destiny, but that's silly because nobody controls their own destiny, and it's not like Boston/Texas has no say in whether they'll compete in those games.

Simply put, the Rays aren't a very good road team this year. They win a little less than the average American League team (42% vs. 45%) and with 21 road games remaining this could prove tedious. If you assume the Rays true talent level is at 54.5% -- as they've played up this point - and then you assume the same for Boston and Texas, you end up with something looking like this:

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The graph represents each team's chances at winning x number of games.  The black dotted line is the 60% mark, meaning you would expect the Rays to win a little over 20 of their 39 games. Of course if you simply multiplied .545 and 39 you would 21 which is the .5 mark. So what's the purpose of this chart? To show you the expectations of the Rays winning x games, which in conjunction with the expected wins of our two top rivals at the moment, gives you perspective on the likelihood (or unlikelihood) of reaching the playoffs.

If you do the Win% * Games Remaining trick you get 23 wins for Boston, 22 for Texas, and 21 for the Rays. That means the Rays have to win 23 + either 3 or 4 based on tonight's result. 26/39 = .667.  Per the binomial distribution, the Rays have a 4.4% shot at winning 26 games, and that's simply to tie Boston. This is a simpleton approach to forecasting because not every Tampa/Texas/Boston result will be independent of each other due to the head-to-head match-ups and these are not clear cut playoff chances, we have higher than ~4% chances at the playoffs right now, but this is simply for easy reference if you believe the Rays performance to date is true talent level - which I could argue that the Rays are better than their record indicates, but that's for another time and at the moment I have neither the desire or time to get into that argument.

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Here's a table for easy reference:

 

Wins Likelihood
1 100
2 100
3 100
4 100
5 100
6 100
7 100
8 100
9 100
10 100
11 99.9
12 99.8
13 99.4
14 98.5
15 96.8
16 93.7
17 88.6
18 81.2
19 71.5
20 59.7
21 47.1
22 34.6
23 23.6
24 14.8
25 8.5
26 4.4
27 2.1
28 0.9
29 0.3
30 0.1
31 0
32 0
33 0
34 0
35 0
36 0
37 0
38 0
39 0

 

Again, use this by estimating the amount of wins the Rays will need to make the playoffs, match-up the win totals, and that's your likelihood. Also, these are rounded to three numbers, so don't freak out about how there's not zero chance of winning 32 games.

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i felt terrible watching the game today, so i kept switching to soccer

… if we cant hit Feldman, then we almost don’t deserve it. i know we won the first 2, but come on.

i have a pic that sort of explains my feeling toward this game, but i have a feeling it would net me the banhammer

by daveh33 on Aug 23, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Because Feldman is not good?

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 23, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

idk

because its feldman, and we face Halladay next and this felt like a waste of a great opportunity.

by daveh33 on Aug 24, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fresh faces and unfamiliar names can still get the job done.

He’s pitched pretty well this year, especially on the road. Certainly a disappointment, but we can still pick up a game a week and climb to the top of the hill.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 24, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

In sexy news, Beckett seems to of emptied the tank

2nd straight horrible start and his nasty curve is flat

Through 5, he has 2K’s and allowed 4 HR"s, his last start he almost lost a game the Sox scored 10 in

7-3 Yankees Bot 5th

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Beckett is throwing at Jeter who has a HR

Time for them to fight and get many suspensions

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

MOAR SUSPENSIONS

= FUN

WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!

by 4QB on Aug 23, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets have a small Barty discussion

Can we get Posey in a deal after this season? Would it take CC? Is there no way we get him?

(jeopardy music)

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think Barty would bring back Posey, but I think C.C. would.

The question is would SF want him. If not I’ll do a Bumgarner for JB swap or something along those lines.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 23, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Sandy Kazmir post an article about how to calculate what you could get in return for a certain player?

If I remember correctly, I don’t think Bartlett is enough for Bumgarner… based on his article.

by Doug09 on Aug 23, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he will

however I could see a team like the Giants over paying for an offensive guy (especially one not too expensive) With Lincecum and Cain they already have 2 young studs in the rotation so I doubt MB is as untouchable as someone with his talent in another organization. All that being said we’d prolly still have to throw in something else so I doubt it gets done.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 23, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think A-Rod just cursed the ump out

wasnt even warned

Everyone stop treating him like god please

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

And Beckett set a new career record

most HR’s allowed in a game, thats 5 now

A-Rod
Cano
Jeter
Matsui x2

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

We have to remain Yankee fans :|

After this game, Texas comes into NYS

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why I prefer to look at game by game vs. overall

Toss out the outliers and you get a much better picture

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 23, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

However, he has allowed 9 homers in his last 2 starts, maybe, just maybe, hes taxed

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd imagine Niemann looks sexy if you look at it like that

he has some serious early season outliers when his leash was a lot shorter.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 23, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out the pitchers tab

HERE note that only the last couple of starts are in chrono order after I had already sorted the first bunch. This also excludes the last 1-2 starts. From what I remember, he has the lowers St. Dev. on the team.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 23, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

So unless Mo gives up 4+ here

We stay 3 back

Red Sox play the White Sox, hopefully Chicago can put a lot on the board

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

lets beat Doc

1.5 back of Texas if we do, hopefully 2 back of the Sox!

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we stay 3 back

thanks Yanks, now more work to do for us!

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by joeybw on Aug 23, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

That's a bit too much

I’d settle for chronic diarrhea… minus Hinske.

by Doug09 on Aug 24, 2009 12:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Brutal road trip for the Rangers this week.

The least the Yankees could do is sweep. They all pay taxes here, after all.

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by PlayOnWords on Aug 24, 2009 5:55 AM EDT reply actions  

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