Rays Rough Up Roy Halladay In Ring Of Fire Opener; Crawford Day to Day
by Tommy Rancel on Aug 24, 2009 10:34 PM EDT
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Print- Somethings don't make sense. For instance, Scott Feldman's line against the Rays yesterday: 7 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 11 K. And Roy Halladay's line tonight against the Rays: 6 IP, 12 H, 8 R, 1 BB, 8 K.
- The Rays handed Jeff Niemann a 3-0 lead after one only to see Niemann give it all back plus one on a Rod Barajas grand slam. After Niemann got a six pitch first inning, his second inning went like this: single, walk, single, grand slam, walk, single, run scoring fielder's choice, single, walk, double play. At the end of three it was 6-3 Jays and they still had to face Roy Halladay. Some how, some way, the Rays offense continued to hit Halladay hard and tied the game back at six. Carlos Pena would go deep against Halladay in the fifth to put the Rays up for good at 8-6. For those keeping track, Pena now has 35 home runs to go with 35 singles.
- It should come as no surprise that the offense came to Niemann's defense; they've done it all season. Coming into today's game the Rays offense averaged 6.68/9 for Niemann in the game; the best in the American League for a starter.
- Niemann was two different starters today. In the first three innings he allowed six runs on seven hits, three walks and used 65 pitches. Over the final 3.1 innings, he used just 39 pitches allowing just one hit and no walks. Take a look at the two graphs. The first is from innings 1-3, notice all the pitches between 2.5-3.5 FT. Now look at the plot for innings 4+. You'll see more pitches below the "belt" or under 2.5 FT.
- The Rays did most of their damage thanks to the 4-7 spots in the lineup. Ben Zobrist, Pena, Pat Burrell and Gregg Zaun went a combined 8-16 with two home runs, a double and nine RBI. Every Rays starter had a hit except Carl Crawford, who exited the game early with lower back tightness. The Rays do not expect CC to play tomorrow which means the three man bench is now down to just two, and one of those is a back up catcher. Again, why do we have eight relief pitchers?
- Because of the short bench, the Rays had to make a few defense adjustments. Ben Zobrist started the game at second base, but then moved to left field to replace Crawford. This forced Joe Maddon to use Willy Aybar at second base. Later on in the game, the Rays replaced Aybar and moved Zobrist back to second base and Gabe Kapler into left field. It didn't seem to bother Zobrist at all as he went 3-4 with his 23rd home run and 18th double.
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Looks like a 20-20-20 season for Zorilla
20 homers – Check
15 of 20 steals
18 of 20 doubles
Not to mention, hes up to 69 RBI and 72 walks to 81 K’s
And playing everywhere
MVP
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I bet he would be able to in a emergency
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Didn't he catch in a spring training game?
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I think so...
Seem to remember reading that a catcher’s mitt is among the many gloves he travels with.
Clearly CC can't handle playing on turf.
Joking aside, he’s had 2 days off all year long. For a manager who LOVES to rest everyone, why the hell is CC playing so much?
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Ian Snell is working a "good game" in the 5th
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Why must I jynx everyone?
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Nah, thats because Trey Hillman keeps making him rusty
Man needs to pitch whether its a save or not
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Shields must hate himself
Best starter and I don’t think he’s gotten 8 runs of support over most of his last 10 starts combined, not to mention against Halladay in one game.
They don't score when he's on the mound, only after
scored 6 runs against BAL & 4 runs against SEA in his last 2 starts
No idea why he doesn’t get runs while he’s ON the mound
by Transplanted on Aug 24, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefull Carl stays healthy throughout the rest of the season.
Don’t want to lower that trade value!
by Doug09 on Aug 25, 2009 1:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Question boys and girls
Pitcher A comes into a game and has the following line score
1 IP 4 H 3 R 3 ER 0 BB 3 K 0 HR
Pitcher B enters and has the following
1 IP 1 H 1 R 1 ER 2 BB 0 K 1 HR
Who has the better FIP?
Because one inning is a pretty big sample, right?
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 25, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It was answered by Marky Mark's Third Nipple
What did the stock market do from 11:35 to 12:15 last Wednesday?
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 25, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The point is it's possible this type of stuff
can happen for an entire career, and it’s a big reason why Wheeler will never be highly thought of here
I didn’t have him in mind with this example though
FIP os a good, not great meausuring stick
You can't possibly be serious?
You’re going to take your 1 IP sample and say with any confidence that this sort of thing can happen over a career? If a guy has a hr/9 or 9 he isn’t in the majors very long. You know that nobody bases their opinion on a guy here off of one statistic. Every statistic has a flaw, don’t project your ignorance on the rest of us. Also, the can and will be enveloped by the sun someday.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 25, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Too early for this shit, I hate you
the earth can and will be enveloped by the sun someday.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 25, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
HAW HAW HAW
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What surprises me most is someone who has the authority
to ban other bloggers cayse he doesn’t agree with them, uses phrases as "your ignorance " in describing others
Commenters maybe, but he generally doesn't ban bloggers
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 25, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
just because someone is a mod doesn't mean they can't call you out on "your ignorance"
especially since you spend most of your time here baiting them.
Selgy
I only ban trolls and SRQ
I’ve never banned you cayse (sic) I disagreed with you. If I banned you it was for being a dick and then playing the victim afterwards. Go run to your mama with that BS.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 25, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
#1) SSS so we don't know much #2) Am I right you are trying to insinuate pitcher B has more talent?
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Even in the small sample
PLayer A was victimized by balls hit away from fielders but displayed a propensity to strike people out. PLayer B was more blessed by the BABIp gods but gave up a home run, a walk, and struck out none
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Any player with a 100% LD rate won't make it to the majors.
Over the course of time, things like LD% stabilize because if you give up too many than you can’t stick. The notion that most ML players have similar skill-sets leads to the regression principal. Almost everything in baseball regresses to the mean for the league. BABIP, LD%, etc. That’s why pitchers that do the things that they control well are more valuable. Sure you can take 1 IP and make conclusions from it, but that is cherry picking and the height of intellectual fraud.
Well said
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 25, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thought this interesting
The Rays are 27 games over 500 v TOR, BOS, KCR and the NL, yand 15 games below 500 v everyone else
Thought this interesting
The Red Sox are 19 games over 500 v TOR, BAL, KCR and the NL, yand below 500 v everyone else
11-20 (.355) vs. ALW !!!!1
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by RATW on Aug 25, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well played, my friend, well played
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by FreeZorilla on Aug 25, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Further proof that the Win/Loss stat is useless
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This game proves why the only stat that matters is W and L
by sternfan1 on Aug 24, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply 0 recs
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Ugh, so many responses
Niemann’s record looks a lot better than it would be if he pitched a day later every start. Shields might be in the running for Cy Young if he pitched with the run support of Niemann (havent looked at numbers, just throwing out general sentiment and wild accusation to stir up the natives)
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I hope Niemann gets 15 or 16 wins and we can trade him for...someone good.
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FOR EDWIN
speaking of which, less and less Edwin references these days
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I'm stunned.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 25, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 25, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
We should have traded Sonny.
You don’t give away young, black pitchers who throw 98 for a AAA player who’s 26 and hasn’t even helped the team at all.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 25, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 25, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
And for that matter, why do we keep trotting BJ Upton out there?
I know he’s talented, I know he plays good defense, but you could say the same thing about Corey Patterson. Where are BJ’s baseball skills beyond running down fly balls? Frankly, I’m not even sure why we play him shallow – seems like a lot of doubles have gotten over his head the past few series.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 25, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
It begs the question, is he the new Delmon Young?
He’ll be one of the final candidates for AL ROY. All of the media pundits will be outraged when the Rays trade him and immediately declare the other team the winner of the trade. Within a year the Rays will look like geniuses because of the player(s) they got in exchange.
Perhaps this only works if trading with the Twins.
We're fast running out of teams that think Niemann is better than a back end of the rotation pitcher.
Ned Colletti, however, still breathes.
It seems like Aybar should catch after watching him waddle around at 2nd base for a few innings
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He has seemed to make at least one mistake every time he has seen the field lately
Lets hope he doesn’t tonight.
We might be better off with Burrell in left then Willy at second
Bring Your Z-Game!
I don't know about that
I’d almost rather have an All-Gabe OF and Zobie at 2nd.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 25, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Can we please call up Joyce?
If Crawford is unavailable tonight that leaves us with a bench of Zaun/Navarro and one of the Gabes. Dump a loogy.
CC is unavaible tonight
Kapler in LF, would of started vs the lefty anyway but Gross wont be fun to watch vs a lefty, then again, neither would Joyce or Briggy
Maybe Aybar will play 2B again*vomit*
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