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Hanging Out With David Price

Unbelievably David Price's started on Sunday was his 16th this season.  In those first eight starts Price threw about 36 innings, faced 179 batters, and tossed 763 pitches. In the last eight his innings total is 46, he faced 200 batters, and threw 791 pitches. That's 10 more innings, 21 more batters, and 28 more pitches. In other words, Price became more efficient, tossing 3.96 pitches per batter faced instead of 4.27; over 25 batters faced that's a difference of eight pitches.

His efficiency isn't the only thing that's improved either. Look at some selected pitching statistics:

SO%

First 8: 22.3%

Last 8: 17.5%

BB%

First 8: 16.8%

Last 8: 5.5%

SwStr%

First 8: 7.5%

Last 8: 9.1%

GB%

First 8: 31.6%

Last 8: 33.3%

Price struck out 22.7% and walked 11.8% during his two stints in Durham, which doesn't mean he'll replicate those numbers, but it gives us more data to draw from. Now, to address the issues here:

1. Yes, we're effectively focusing on two sets of ~800 pitches. That's not a ton of data. For instance, Matt Garza has thrown over 2,500 pitches this season and J.P. Howell is near 1,000. There are sample size matters here.

2.  You should expect Price to fall in between on most categories. Hopefully on the lower end with regards to the walk rate, a 5.5% uBB rate would put him in the top 20 or so and I think that's a bit unrealistic.

3. Price's tRA is down roughly a run and a half between the first and second sets. I have him around 4.5 for the second half, although that's without the exact IFFB% and instead the seasonal numbers. That's equal to Jeff Niemann.

4. His line drive rate somehow held steady at 22% in both sets, when combined with the fly ball numbers, this leads to issues. This confuses me, because you wouldn't expect Price to allow so many liners, but BIS and StatCorner's data back it up.

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by PlayOnWords on Aug 25, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

SEC Baseball while good doesn't = AAA baseball

Niemann was more ready for the majors this year and Price’s talent alone was going to make him as great as most expected.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 25, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably about like pitching three years at Hudson Valley

since most drafted college players start the pros at short-season A or low-A (A+ if you are really good and/or really polished; AA if you are Dewon Brazelton and the GM is Chuck LaMar).

The number of starts is about the same for college and short-season A (15-17) although college pitchers will rack up far more innings.

Kazmir may have set the expectations bar a little high for young rookie pitchers.

Having said that, Price really needs that consistently decent third pitch.

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by RATW on Aug 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

This post is a lie

I was expecting a story of you and Price playing Call of Duty 4

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For the lulz

by SRQman on Aug 25, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Color me

black disappointed after reading the title and finding out it was stats related and not RJ and Price listening to the hippity hop music.

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by Buc Wild on Aug 25, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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