Russ Springer's Added Value
One benefit to the Russ Springer deal that slipped my mind until now. Even if the Rays don't make the playoffs and Springer decides he doesn't like this Bay Area too much, if the Rays offer him arbitration and he declines, then they would net a sandwich pick for their efforts. Well, no team is going to give up a draft pick for Russ Springer, which is why the good news is that they won't have to. Remember how the Rays signed Brian Shouse last off-season, and the Brewers gained a compensatory pick that didn't affect the Rays in the least bit? That's the situation we'd be looking at with Springer. Yes, he's old, yes he's only a reliever, but the Type-B** distinction wouldn't affect his attractiveness to potential suitors.
Now, just to figure out whether he'd actually accept arbitration or not.
*The Brewers pick was number 47. That's right, the Brewers picked 47th overall for losing Brian Shouse, a LOOGY, meanwhile the Nationals second round pick was number 50. Makes total sense, right?
**The ranking is courtesy of Eddie Bajek's projections.
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What's the formula for determining what type a FA is? Maybe it should be tightened up a bit?
After this offseason of course.
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Aug 26, 2009 8:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Found it. Hmmm
RP: Total games (total relief appearances + 2 * total starts), IP (weighted slightly less than other categories), Wins + Saves, IP/H ratio, K/BB, ERA
Also, I can’t see the rankings from Elias, since I’m on my mobile. But is Navarro still Type-B?Last time I checked he was type B.
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Aug 26, 2009 8:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad idea to keep him. His salary pretty much will offset Bradford
by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2009 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather take the pick
And call up Thayer.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 26, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thayer's a reason they call it AAA
He no longer can close there anymore
Look for his release
by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can occupy the low-mid leverage spot Springer does for virtually nothing.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 26, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except he blows--he's a step backwards
by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tRA 2.99
FIP 2.96
In the majors. By all means, let’s hang this bitch up by his dirty moustache.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 26, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now i'll counter with those magic words, sample size
by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, duh.
But he’s earned a more lengthy shot. His cameos have gone well, and he’s got a fine minor league resume.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 26, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He blew a save last night in Durham
It’s clear his career is over.
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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 26, 2009 9:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Are you excited about him going forward?
by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you excited about any low-mid leverage reliever?
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 26, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then take the pick, freed salary, and learn to love the stache.
BTW, Thayer’s blown save last night came on a 3 out, 5 pitch inning from him.
by Suttree on Aug 26, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thayer will not be with the big club next year
AF is very bullpen prioritized
by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop looking at the process
Results are all that matter and now he has another BS in his dossier.
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you stoned when you wrote this?
Silly college kids.
by Erik Hahmann on Aug 26, 2009 8:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Obama is going to have to send the Rays some bailout money considering how huge the Rays draft budget next year has to be
Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks
by matthan on Aug 26, 2009 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly though
If Springer goes to arbitration, he’ll be guaranteed at least $2.64 million. What are the chances he would actually turn down arbitration at 41 years old after the year he’s had?
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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Especially considering
he was only able to get $3.3M on the free agent market coming off a season where he had a 2.32 ERA…
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by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's possible he could decline so he can find a team closer to his son.
by Suttree on Aug 26, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Autistic.
Are their black kid who are autistic? You never see them on medical dramas.
by Suttree on Aug 26, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know he was autistic
black kids aren’t allowed to be mentally handicapped, they are just inner city trouble makers.
by Dbullsfan on Aug 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it possible he just retired?
Vroom vroom party starter
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 26, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he just retires*
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 26, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so
Although it’s not like he’s made SO MUCH money that he wouldn’t want to work another year if he can get it.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many compensatory picks have the Rays got comparded to big market teams?
like the yanks and red sox.
Wasn’t the point of it to help out small market teams who could afford their players? Seems like it has been a total failure if thats the case
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by Sveet on Aug 26, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, we've never had good players before that we let go to free agency.
The Red Sox benefited from it nicely after their World Series run. I believe they had four drafts in the first round after Cabrera, Pedro, Lowe, and Damon left, two of whom ended up being Papelbon and Ellsbury (if I’m not mistaken).
by Suttree on Aug 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems like they get picks every year from players they pick up
guys like Wagner, Gagne, Alex Gonzalez.
I just wished their was a way you only get picks for someone after his first contract or only if he has played a majority of his Major league games with you.
Hansen, Buchholz, Lowrie, Ellsbury, Bard, and Bowden were all comp picks.
Funny to hear how some fans will say things like we are only good because we drafted so high for many years in a row. When teams like the Red Sox and Yanks might have had 3-4 picks before our second pick.
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by Sveet on Aug 26, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of their strategy is looking for players who will land them compensatory picks.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 26, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beane'd
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is also a strategy we employ, which is what this thread is all about.
by Suttree on Aug 26, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what I would do with myself next draft day if we have 5 picks in the first ~90.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 26, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO SHIT SHERLOCK
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ease down, Ripley, ease down. You're just grinding metal.
by Suttree on Aug 26, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice one Dallas
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We employ it so much that we've never had a compensatory pick in team history
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Aug 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that
I’m not blaming the Red Sox. I just wish the way they determined compensatory picks was a different
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by Sveet on Aug 26, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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