Andy Sonnanstine To Replace Scott Kazmir In Rays Rotation
by Tommy Rancel on Aug 29, 2009 8:08 PM EDT
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While some (me) had hoped the Rays would tap Wade Davis to replace Scott Kazmir in the Rays rotation, the Rays have decided to go with an old favorite in Boom Boom, Andy Sonnanstine. Sonny, who was sent to Durham in late June to make room for Scott Kazmir after going 6-7 with a 6.61 ERA/5.13 FIP in 15 starts, will now take his place once he is officially recalled on Tuesday. Since going down to Durham, Sonny has gone 5-3 with a 4.40 ERA/3.37 FIP in nine starts. After posting a career low 2.27 K/BB earlier this season, Sonnanstine has bumped that back to 4.0 in his Durham stint. There is also a case of mono, but Andy's gotta do what Andy's gotta do.
Assuming Sonny will take all of the remaining turns, there is a chance he could be seeing the Red Sox quite often. If you remember Sonny did some of his best Sonny things against Boston last September. If Sonny can pitch to or around his career number of a 4.27 FIP, the loss of Scott Kazmir will be minimal even if he posts a 3.5 FIP the rest of the way. If Sonny makes seven starts and averages five innings per start with a 4.5 FIP and Kaz does the same with a 3.5 FIP, the difference is a whopping four runs total.
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im sorry maybe im missing something
but this is the same sonny we sent down to the minors because no pitcher has been more awful in the majors this year right? how exactly is that spossed to restore my playoff faith?
by Toe Finch on Aug 29, 2009 10:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not me.
I have playoff hopes and am quite displeased by this.
Davis > Sonny
by Not Whole View Gang survivor on Aug 30, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
This makes you a terrible human being who must like to stomp on kittens.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Does he have his beard?
Beard = Wins
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions
fine then I say trade Davis
If your not going to use him then lt him at least have a shot some where else
no not really
retarded as I may sound
by thedudeofdudes on Aug 29, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
And it does.
He’s coming up. Give him a week. Maybe the FO didn’t want the guy’s first career start in the big leagues to be against the Red Sox and Lester.
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
What the hell is happening to this place?
So because they’re leaving Davis down for the IL playoffs, they should trade him?
I need a break.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 29, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
WAHOO
Sonny!
^^^progressive statistical analysis and reasoned argument
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RJ, can you please tear yourself away from writing Faery Rebels 2: Last Waltz of the Pixie Pirates From Pakistan
to answer when we might know about this PTBNL?
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Pixie Pirates
you boob.
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I don't know.
And to add to the drama Rev Halofan and myself aren’t hearing the same things from the respective teams. So.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 29, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Write the name of the person you're hearing in pig latin.
No one but you and me will understand it. Swear.
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Putting it in actual Latin would decrease that number more.
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
A number that would include me.
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No Latin in real estate?
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to translate my lyrics with Babelfish.
They come to me as I enter trance states.
Btw, the interplay between Anelka and Drogba was pretty exquisite today. Had to be happy with that. Though Drogba attempts from baffling angles.
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Drogba was pressing. Ivory Coast will have some easy chances this week though.
Hell of a sucker punch for your boys. Wenger standing atop the tunnel was amazing.
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
WENGER STANDS ON TOP OF THE TUNNEL OF DOOM, AWAITING DROGBA'S ENTRANCE OUT OF THE BOWELS OF MOUNT VESUVIUS, TO KILL HIM ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
I wish.
Except I have Drogba on my fantasy team.
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Where do you find this shit?
Looking for work editing video or in live production. Please help.
by staplemaniac on Aug 29, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Not much fun at all. Still think we outplayed them.
I was just watching the Real/Depor highlights and Depor got screwed on a very similar “penalty”. Raul was about to dribble right past the rear touchline and Arunzubia fouled him, like Almunia fouled Roo.
That ending was so fucked up, even the cretinous United fans were applauding Wenger. I liked your twitpic of that screenie, haha.
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AC Milan had a complete meltdown.
Captain gave up a penalty, got a yellow, then got a straight red in the span of ten minutes. It was amazing.
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The Juve/Roma game tomorrow will defnitely gauge how much of a threat the Old Lady are to Inter
Otherwise, they’re running away with it.
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Again
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Btw, the interplay between Anelka and Drogba was pretty exquisite today. Had to be happy with that. Though Drogba attempts from baffling angles.
As I was reading this, I was imagining you were talking about some sort of Latin Angel lore, where Anelka and Drogba did battle with flaming swords in the sky, But Drogba tried come at him at weird angles and got his wings fell off, so he fell into mount vesuvius.
Then I realized you were talking about soccer, and was disappointed.
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by P Brady on Aug 29, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would still guess that it is either Rodriguez or the catcher (forgot his name, the one in AAA) although could be Wood
I seriously doubt it is that pitcher they are talking about on HH but it sure as hell would be nice if it was.
I've officially stopped feeling feelings after this
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I thought it was after your grandma touched you in 2nd grade.
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To be fair
They just named Sonny the starter for Tuesday. I think the quote from Maddon said they would evaluate the rest of the season after that…so there’s still a chance Davis gets a start or two…
Sonny would have been my 3rd choice
but it is what I expected. I’d still rather see Sonny in the pen and either Davis or Hellickson given the starts but I’m looking more towards the future than the rest of this season b/c I don’t think the difference between the 3 is going to matter much over a month.
as long as you've given up on the playoffs I see this
at the same time, I think getting Sonny a month’s worth of starts is going to either A) hopefully impress us enough that we keep him in the rotation for next year or (more likely) B) increase his percieved value enough that a trade is sensible.
no way
his nickname is BP as in batting practice sonny < kaz
by Toe Finch on Aug 29, 2009 10:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hell Boy will be the 2010 call up
and I am sure Davis will be called up real soon
08 Price
09 Davis
10 Hellickson
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
unless our 5 next year are great
and Hellickson treats AAA in 2010 like he has in 2009 I will be greatly disapointed if he isn’t in the rotation by ASB.
I think Sonny will have to earn that spot
if he does bad, Wade takes it
Also, I really wish we would find out the PTBNL
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
I think Sonny gets the next start and Davis takes his job afterwards
I guess even though it’s just 31 pitches, they dont want Wade on 3 days rest.
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
They need someone for the double-header on Labor Day
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
at the moment, the pitchers would be Garza and Davis
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Which would be amazing
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Rangers win, Jays trying to rally vs Sox
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
3-2 Sux 1 out man on 1st in the 9th
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
the 2 runs were a tease, Sux win AGAIN
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Aww
@BJUpton Gonna miss you Kaz.
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@LolligagginBJ Another cracka bites the dust
by Doug09 on Aug 29, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But the feelings are real.
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by PlayOnWords on Aug 29, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You realize that's not him right?
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by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that's not a record you'd like to have.
Tools Whore
I don't think Sonny would greatly outperform Davis or vice versa
But to me it makes a lot more sense to give Davis a few starts to get his feet wet since he should be starting 2010 in the rotation
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 29, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm he still can't get righties out
but I guess Maddon wasn’t ready to put Davis in the spotlight. I don’t expect much from Sonny the rest of the season due to the miedocre results in Durham but maybe just maybe he can drive the Red Sox nuts again.
how the hell is a 3.3 FIP a "mediocre" result?
Davis hasn’t had below a 3.8 FIP in Durham
by Navi's_Navy on Aug 30, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonny will get knocked around
Rays better give major run support. Overall, he has been unimpressive in Durham at the games I saw him pitch in and at times was hit VERY hard (I’m referring to the how the ball has come off AAA bats, harder than I’m used to seeing and I go to 40 -50 Bulls games a year the last 3 seasons). Hell boy has been the most impressive by far followed by Davis who appears to major league ready or VERY close. I can tell you Davis is more polished than David Price was this time last year.
so no james shields treatment?
by Toe Finch on Aug 30, 2009 12:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
thats why his home run rate is lower... (SSS)
I’m sorry, I’ll take the numbers over your analysis kthx
by Navi's_Navy on Aug 30, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Even though you probably all discussed this once, I believe the PTBNL is Jordan Walden
Halo Heaven seems to have done a convincing investigation that would lead to him as the person that comes over.
http://www.halosheaven.com/2009/8/29/1006687/jordan-walden-is-the-player-to-be
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PTBNL
I also would love to know who this player will be. Sorry I can’t quote my source but I saw one explanation of the rule that reflected that a PTBNL had to change leagues or move up the ladder, .i.e from A to AA or from AAA to MLB. If this is true then it makes since that we won’t know until Tuesday (9/1/09) so that no current 25 man roster members would need to be demoted/dfa’d. Does anyone know any different on the PTBNL rule?
I think the explanation that has made the most sense so far
is that the ptbnl is a guy who was on the Angels 40 man roster and did/could not clear waivers meaning that they are going to have to wait until after the season to announce who it is. Both teams know who the guy is so hopefully someone will leak the name so we aren’t pulling our hair out trying to figure it out.
assuming that the player isn’t on the current 25 man roster of the Angels but on the 40 man that leaves these players.
P. Kelvim Escobar *
P. Robert Mosebach
P. Dustin Moseley*
P. Sean O’Sullivan
P. Anthony Ortega
P. Fernando Rodriguez
P. Rafael Rodriguez
P. Scot Shields*
P. Rich Thompson
C. Ryan Budde
C. Bobby Wilson
IF. Matthew Brown
IF. Sean Rodriguez
IF. Freddy Sandoval
IF. Mark Trumbo
IF. Brandon Wood
OF. Terry Evans
OF. Reggie Willits
players with asterisk are on the DL and players bolded are the guys if I had to guess (no inside knowledge) would be the most likely to be the ptbnl
lol Ray Olmedo for the pen
interesting note, I wonder when the last time or if even in the IL the same player picked up the win as the pitcher and scored the winning run on a walk-off hit. or even got the win and scored the winning run. Olmedo got the win in 2 innings of relief and scored the winning run on a Jon Weber double.
hahah what doesnt have a wiki
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