James Shields Gets No Run Support Yet Again Lo...Wait.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2009 4:57 PM EDT
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PrintJames Shields found himself in the unfamiliar position of a large lead. Not familiar with such a sensation, Shields promptly gave a few runs back and ended with 31 batters faced, allowed 10 hits, two home runs, one walk, and six strikeouts. He gave up 9 grounders, 7 fly balls, and 8 line drives. Not Shields' best start on the year, that's for sure. Thankfully, Jarrod Washburn - an exponentially worse starter - was on the mound for Detroit. You won't find a better case of ERA lying to you with a smile than Washburn: 3.23 ERA, 4.35 FIP, 4.90 tRA. He's not what Detroit thought he was, and boy, he was really, really bad today.
The righty heavy lineup paid immediate dividends as Bartlett singled, Kapler walked, Zobrist doubled, Burrell doubled, Longoria doubled, and then the first lefty popped a homer. Just like that, Rays led 6-0. At one point the Rays would lead 11-3, and eventually win 11-7, but good grief did the ninth represent a trying effort.
In other news, the Rays will call Jeff Bennett, Andy Sonnanstine, Shawn Riggans, and Fernando Perez up tomorrow meaning we've survived the two LOOGY onslaught for about an entire month. Woo.
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An inspiring victory.
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I used to steadfastly believe that we'd make the playoffs, even as recently as last week.
We can’t even do blowouts right anymore.
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SOOOOOOO
Sonny, Bennett, Perez, and Riggans- Oh Boy! This ain’t going to go well.
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
I expect riggans to
start for garza/shields someday. Bennett better not be used a lot- he scares me. Will perez start at all?
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
2 waves of promotions
They are gonna call up Davis, Brignac and a hitter, probably Joyce soon
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
hell, i dont even know if hes getting named during this season
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
So guys,
Sometimes i wish i could ban these people.
coach2007Posts:14
Kaz bashers, I want you to consider how you will defend Kaz being traded if you learn that the PTBNL has the following stats:
2009 LAA 20 0 1 3 1 3 6 0 0 17.2 16 14 13 1 15 12 6.62 1.75 .239 Thats right ERA 6.62
and he is a releiver!
To add insult to injury, he will cost the Rays $5Million next year and he is not recovering from injury as well as expected.
I have seen posts on this site that Kaz had to go because his ERA was over 5 for a few months while pitching through forced mechanics changes called injury. I have also readvhe had to go to make Salary room to pay for CC. ( you guys have forgotten about the 4 million they wont be paying Percy).
How will those statements look when the Rays are paying $5mil for a hurt releiver that has a 6.62 ERA.
For the record, the above player to be named later is much better than his 2009 stats and he could once again be a great releiver, however Kaz is also much better than his 2009 stats and will likely return to all star status, especially when allowed to work with a pitching coach he trusts and more importantly a pitching coach that respects him.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
What Rodriguez
story? Nobody did- its practical speculation that only R.J. knows if it’s true or not.
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
The user in the GDT said a radio host spread it.
I didn’t find out which one yet.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't be if it was in the GDT.
He was bumped because of the game.
Tools Whore
Reading the GDT, it doesn't appear that it was said on air.
This guy was informed by a friend who works at a radio station.
Tools Whore
Acutally, reading the post, he doesn't say a radio host said it.
A friend who works for a radio station, presumably WDAE told him it was Rodriguez.
Tools Whore
Yeah, you're right.
Says an official announcement within two days, yay.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting. Maybe the got him through waivers after the deal was done.
No real reason for anyone to block him since he’s almost certainly not going be called up.
Tools Whore
Why wouldn't a team claim him?
He’s an interesting fellow.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you explain something?
If S-rod is traded to us, he has to go thru waivers, why? I thought he was ours.
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
i think whoever is the PTBNL has to have already passed through waivers
correct me if im wrong
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If he's named before the season is over, then he did pass through waivers.
If he’s named after the season, it doesn’t matter either way.
Tools Whore
He's on the 40-man roster.
And we’re beyond July 31st. That means to be dealt a player on the 40-man has to pass through waivers unclaimed to be dealt to any team, or claimed by a team and dealt to that team. Otherwise the team pulls him back and sits on him, or lets him go for nothing.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So technically
The jays (example) could claim him but he will be pulled back by the Angels right.
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
Yes.
Most players are put on waivers. When that happens, you have three choices:
1. Work out a trade with the claiming team.
2. Give him to the claiming team for free.
3. Pull him back.
Tools Whore
so this player is more than just a throw in it could be someone decent
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Nope.
The Rays blocked Adam Stern a few years back in the Javy Lopez deal, and the Yankees just blocked Chris Carter.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You're thinking optional waivers.
AKA demoting a guy.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 31, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but that was us being dicks and the Yankees did that as a stratigic move.
The only teams that have an incentive to block this particular deal are below us in waiver priority, so we’ll claim him before they do.
Tools Whore
I'm opperating on two assumptions.
1. It’s common knowledge in front offices around baseball that he’s already been traded and will just be pulled back anyway.
2. He wasn’t put on waivers before the trade was completed.
Tools Whore
Rodriguez is that 2B in AAA right
he has like 100+ RBIS
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since we defiantly need another reliever
there is no way
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is that Scott Shields or what?
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
over/ under on how many innings until Riggans lands on the DL
by Toe Finch on Aug 31, 2009 5:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
50 pitches maybe
Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Aug 31, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Does this guy only have one client?
@kendallalmerico Here’s a shocker. Navarro starts, Rays win again. Talk stats all you want, but team chemistry = wins. And wins are what matters.
Let’s hear it for Dioner Navarro. Navi is hitting .300 for the month of July and playing awesome defense. Go Rays!
11:44 AM Jul 26th
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And…Gotta love another brilliant front office Rays move. Kaz is 4-2 since All Star Break?…get him out of here. Save Money! Who is next?
NAVI!!?
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YES?!!
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Joe Podsednik will have about 20,000
beautifully angry words written about this in no time.
He looks like
Cillian Murphy in that picture.
okay I can maybe kinda understand not bringing up Davis, Brignac, and Joyce
if we care more about IL playoffs than having the best players onthe ML squad but can we at least call up Elliot Johnson to give Longo a day off or two and to just have an extra utility guy around.
he could probably use a day off especially if we close the WC gap
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umm I'd rather not have a brick with the glove
at EJ’s bat isn’t that far behind Aybar’s (not the same but not a huge drop-off considering we are maybe talking 1 game)
Aybar has a better bat and I don't see the diff in glove being huge over one game
but that is just me.
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For the lulz
I don't know Aybar has seemingly gotten awful in the field
maybe the timing on his errors just stick out.
I think that is a part of it...
people talk about it a lot and the ones that happened were usually bad timing. Everyone makes bad plays it’s just the timing is how well they are remembered.
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For the lulz
ok just got off work and looked at the box
Kapler batting 2nd wtf????
does this make us undefeated with a Gabe in the top 3rd of the order
Thome for Burrell straight-up
"That's not baseball. Little numbers in a newspaper is...So-dookie, or whatever."
Kapler, with Crawford off, right hander who hits that lefty well.
by SmarterthanDBullsFan on Aug 31, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
I hope you realize thats not saying a lot
there are at least 3 or 4 other people in this world smarter than me.
Elliott Johnson???
Zo and Aybar can relieve Longo.. Elliott Johnson sucks
by SmarterthanDBullsFan on Aug 31, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
Why are we even relieving Longo, he's better than all three of them.
We’re supposed to be in a playoff race and we’re resting 23 year old stars, playing a lazy CFer who can’t hit anything and trading away a 25 year old pitcher who’s been amazing lately and who will be one of the best pitchers in the league next year. See Edwin Jackson. Andrew Friedman clearly has no idea how to evaluate pitching talent and Jim Hickey clearly has no ability to coach pitching talent.
by Cockytherooster! on Aug 31, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
b/c he has like a .750 OPS over the last 3 months and may still be a bit hurt
everyone gets days off (CC today, BJ a couple days ago)
And they shouldn't be getting days off. They're in their mid-20's. Lou Gerhrig never asked for a day off and he is the best to ever play his position.
And BJ shouldn’t be playing. Send his lazy ass to AA to send a message. No I didn’t miss an A there, I mean Montgomery. He really needs to get the message.
by Cockytherooster! on Aug 31, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish BJ was Lou Gehrig as well
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 31, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
so I missed most of the SRod discussion during the game-day thread
hopefully he is the ptbnl and if he is I would love to see him used as a utility role next year (possibly platooning with Joyce in LF/RF (Zo or SRod can play 2B or the OF spot) b/c SRod destroys LHP and Joyce has better splits against RHP). Also if he is the ptbnl I think this is a great trade for us.
Durham update up 5-4 in the 4th. Jeff Bennett started and lasted 2 innings
some highlights
•Reid Brignac doubles (28) on a fly ball to center fielder Gregor Blanco. Fernando Perez scores
•Matt Joyce homers (16) on a fly ball to right field. Joe Dillon scores.
joyce is having a great august
.969 OPS for the month
to tell you the truth i didn't know joe dillon got sent down till i checked the bulls box scores one day..
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Kyle Lobstein was sad he didn't get to pitch with Hellickson last night
so far
5 innings 1 h 1 r (HR) 1 bb 8 K
ran into a lil trouble in the 6th
he is done 6 innings 3 h 2 r 2 bb 9 K, fell just short of equaling Hellickson 3 straight 10 K outings.
Malm went 3-5
and Mitch Talbot pitched again today (not sure why he isn’t just getting shut down but w/e)
2 innings 0 baserunners 5 K
too lazy again to check
How is McGee doing? Are they letting him work deeper into games?
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Have to show that Mitch isn't dead in case we can get an Aneury for him
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 31, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Shane Dyer ran his record to 1-10 in Bowling Green today
on a good note he has only given up 3 HR in 95 1/3 innings this year.
The Blue Jays
are pulling a Shouse
by Toe Finch on Aug 31, 2009 9:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Torress just started his Rays debut
do well please
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
hitless 1st but 2 walks allowed
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
so through 2 he has 0 HA and a K
but has already walked 3…..
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
Kazmiresque
I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 31, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Garland also to Dodgers
…..Jose Contreas to Colorado, dont wanna see that
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
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