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Around SBN: Win or Lose, Boston Celtics' New Big 3 Era A Success

8/5 Post-Game: Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays

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Player WPA
Wheeler 0.171
Pena 0.146
Price 0.132
Crawford 0.129
Howell 0.041
Zobrist 0.023
Burrell 0.02
Hernandez 0.006
Upton 0.001
Bartlett 0.001
Longoria -0.004
Cormier -0.006
Gross -0.011
Kapler -0.027
Bennett -0.16

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LETS GO A'S

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

LETS GO OAKLAND (CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP)

2009 Rays Baseball: Still Kings of the Sunshine State

by JMB on Aug 5, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay shameless plug

But I just put up a new analysis on Hernandez and Navi. Once again Dioner comes up short, and that was before the solid start by Price tonight.

Need a lineup? No problem...just give me paper, pen, scissors, a hat, and a blindfold

by jqueipo on Aug 5, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

No matter what happens

I still would of loved to have Halladay

1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann

by joeybw on Aug 5, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

9 innings where he gives up 4 ER?

Clearly, the death throes.

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Aug 5, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he would get us them the easier way

1. James Shields 2. Scott Kazmir 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann

by joeybw on Aug 5, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny knew how to play the Monstah

Bay seems lost out there

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 5, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both are all-hit no-field OF's.

Manny’s the better hitter though, career .889 OPS hitter versus a career 1.005 OPS hitter.

by twenty5psi on Aug 5, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

fail

WASN’T too “injured”

Regressing to the mean streets of St. Pete

by stpetelawyer on Aug 5, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sox have a long history of easing the transition of their stars out the door.

They badmouthed Nomar, Roger, and Pedro before they left and the fans are left remembering the “bad actions” of their stars out the door and not the glory years. I would expect them to do the same to Beckett and Bay.

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 5, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goes back further then that too.

Clemens, Roger

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which Roger did you think I was talking about?

Roger Millar?

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 5, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He only festered there for about a week before they delt him; I wouldn't take the entire month into consideration.

I don’t think you can take stats too much into account because he went from content to indifferent over the course of a few days.

You can say it was kneejerk to trade him; I dunno. But they were tired of him and his crap, and he seemed pretty tired of Boston.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Win or lose, its gonna be a interest end of the year.

we will make a return to the playoffs

"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey

by Gone Phishing on Aug 5, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Tex 3- Oak 2

They’re having fun drilling batters tonight.

by St Longo Drew on Aug 5, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Padilla on the mound or something?

That guy is a bitch

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 5, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine that

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 5, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suzuki got revenge on Padilla

Just knocked on one out of the park, 4-3 Oakland.

by St Longo Drew on Aug 5, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not batting practice

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 5, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, 4 in Seattle and 3 in Aneheim.

And the Mariners are putting up a fight. And their Defense UZR has been off the charts for the last two months or so.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's hope that Felix has a rare off-day and that we hit the Angels at the start of their cooldown

But, shit. What a performance by the boys tonight. David looked BEASTLY out there. He finally came in to righties. And the HR have returned in force. Go PTB! Go Los! Go Barty! Go B-Day Boy!

Two wins over the Sox in one day. Savor it.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Aug 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops, your right.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

*you're

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also forgot to mention this when I noticed it

CC has tied his career high for walks in a season at 37.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

woooo

for price amnd kaz having good starts

by Toe Finch on Aug 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The 3rd strike to Varitek was just cruel

That ball scooted back over the inside corner of the plate at the point of no return. JP so silly.

So long, Sweet Lime!

by PlayOnWords on Aug 5, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Varitek thinks everything's inside because he hovers his hands over the plate.

I don’t understand why umps don’t just toss him from the game. He’s always arguing calls, and he’s always wrong.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he can't argue with his wife anymore...

Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Aug 5, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hiyo!

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

PTB on his game back from the bench

hits a homer when it actually matters. PTB is slowly making a comeback

"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey

by Gone Phishing on Aug 5, 2009 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

its like waiting for BJ to rediscover his power stroke, or Navi to return to his 2008 self. I think Pat Burrell seems to be a guy who hasn’t been able to convert well to being a full-time DH, being a career position player.

by sofladude77 on Aug 5, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or to the AL

I can't help that I make some things look easier than they really are.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 5, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think he's going to Aubrey Huff it.

He’s not going to wake up like we expect him too this season, but next year he’ll be a one-man wrecking crew.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burrell has a reputation of being an up and down player in his career.

Never hit for average, hit .209 in 2003. He compares to Huff in terms of ups and downs, but different type being Huff was more of a contact hitter and PTB is more like a Pena/Thome type.

by sofladude77 on Aug 5, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rays are really making the Red Sox

look old. Biggest weakness of the Sox has to be the age and lack of athleticism besides Ellsbury and Pedroia. That is one aching bunch.

by sofladude77 on Aug 5, 2009 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I predicted all the way back at the beginning of the season they were going to have pitching problems.

I also said they would finish 3rd in the division and miss the playoffs. I’ve since said the Rays aren’t going to make it because they wouldn’t catch Boston. No matter what happens, I’m going to be both a genius and an idiot.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their bullpen is a mess right now though.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno about that

they might be a bit on the tired side if that is what you mean

by sofladude77 on Aug 5, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm saying that their Bullpen has been a mess as of late. Blame it on fatigue or slumping, either way, they're not good right now.

But I harped more on the starting rotation at the beginning of the year. It was Beckett, Lester, Wakefield, Dice-K, and Buchholtz. Buchholtz didn’t even make it out of spring training and was replaced by Penny. Dice-K regressed like everyone said he would and got ‘injured’. Now Wake is hurt too and Smoltz is in the rotation. Their starting pitching is not good. They only have 2 reliable starters right now.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 5, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

the rotation is sure a mess right now

agreed there. They have gotten by with only 3 reliable starters and one is on the DL. Wow what a difference a year makes, Dice-K was awesome last year and this year he is in the doghouse.

by sofladude77 on Aug 5, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Need black stallions

Your source for replacement level commentary

by RATW on Aug 6, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That trade has certainly been weird

Helps & Hurts us at the same time. It’s kinda nice he’s getting the chance to play when no one wanted him

by Transplanted on Aug 6, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not fair.

The Rays didn’t want to get rid of him, but he wasn’t getting promoted over Aki. The team didn’t get much in return for him, but it was by design as the trade was more to get him to a situation where he could play and honor their verbal commitment to him then to try to get something in return.

On the plus side, if he wasn’t traded, who knows what the team would be trying to do with Zobrist right now. He could still be platooning in the OF for all we know.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Aug 6, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

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