What to Expect from Andy Sonnanstine?
Andy Sonnanstine makes his return tonight. Everyone knows what he throws, how he gets batters out, how batters take him out, and so on, but there's not much else to write about, so here we are.
He pitched modestly well at Durham, posting the second best tRA and FIP in the Bulls rotation. His whiff rate was 8.4%, quite a bit lower than his last go around in Durham, but higher than his previous two seasons in the majors. The inspiring aspect might be his ball% sinking back to levels we'd expect of Sonnastine and his overall strikeout/walk ratios improving.
The bad news? He found himself even more reliant on fly balls. As mentioned ad nauseam prior to his demotion, Sonnanstine's home run per fly ball ratio was well, well above the expected range for starting pitchers. The increase is minimal and won't have much of an effect on this number. His seasonal number is still going to be above average, still we should expect about 11% of his fly balls to go for homers, perhaps less given the Trop's homer depressant attitude.
During his time up, he threw a cutter, two-seam fastball, curve, and slider. His two-seamer is the only pitch that actually broke towards right-handed batters, the rest broke away. Obviously his other pitches have varying degree of vertical and horizontal break but it would seem to me that Sonnanstine is easier to hit when you can sit back and know 80% of his pitches are going to move towards the plate. His change-up wasn't very good last season though, so what do I know anyways?
The pitch to watch for is his slider. Last year the pitch was in the plus, this year it was atrocious for seemingly no reason. The pitch is breaking less vertically but as much horizontally. Maybe there's some deception missing or he simply didn't have a good feel on it, but the pitch must improve if Sonnanstine is going to have more success along the way.
ZiPS forecasts him as a league average starter moving forward. I think that's appropriate. There's a non-zero chance these next few starts are his last with the Rays so hopefully he can call upon the Sonnanstine of late 2008 lore and put away chants of Kazmirian nature.
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I expect Andy Sonnastine to not suck tonight.
He has been tough, from time to time, in big games for the Rays. Hopefully, this will be one of those games where is does more to win the game then lose the game. That would be nice.
I also feel that this is Andy’s shot to stay in the rotation for the rest of the year and next year. So, hopefully Andy will keep the ball down and avoid the big inning so that the Rays can score and score often.
In the name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 1, 2009 7:11 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe a miracle will occur
Look what Byrd did Sunday
I always have faith in Sonny
I was angry he went down and I feel like he’ll show everyone that it was a mistake to send him down. (and he is cheap, cost-wise)
"Doesn't Manny Ramirez look like the monster from Predator??" - Will Farrell as Harry Carey
Sonny will be fine, but I wish the Rays adjusted their rotation like the Red Sox did
It just really seems that we have zero sense of urgency. The Sox are up 5 games, yet they are still going the extra mile to win this series. Sonny should have pitched yesterday with Shields going tonight. Yet the Rays decide to bring up a guy from the minors to pitch the biggest game of the year. I think Sonny will be fine, but that is some really piss poor planning. The team needs to wake up. I understand the take it slow one game at a time approach in March, April, May, etc. This is September now. Play your stars every game. Do everything you can to win. No need to rest.
If we lose this series you can just shut the players down cause we will be out of it. They’ll get plenty of rest then. In the mean time go at it 100%.
Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks
If we lose a game in this series it's pretty much over
If it isn’t already now. Sweep or die.
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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 1, 2009 9:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
I was thinking 4/6 against BOS would keep us in it.
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We'd still be 3 GB
and you’re assuming we’ll win most of our other games and they won’t
3 GB or 2 GB after the Boston games would be okay
Sure I’d love the 6 game sweep, but we don’t need that. We just need to get within striking distance where in theory we can make up the ground in a weekend.
Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks
Considering we have won most of our other games, I don't consider that to be a stretch.
And its not out of the question to expect them to lose 3 games more.
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Sox have won 76 games with 32 left
They would need to play below 500 for the Rays to have a chance assuming 92 is the goal, and that requires the Rays to go 21-11
So lets help them out with that
What exactly is the point of this? Do you feel smarter? Should we join you in grabbing the Kleenex? We know what’s ahead of us. Each man here. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Embrace Eternity
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
21-11 is basically 6/10, which is about what we've done all season - without urgency
I don’t think the playoffs are a lock. I don’t think they’re gone forever.
The ball is round.
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Those are numbers, not statistics
You’re getting railed for your Debby Downer routine. Nobody is going to hand this to us, I think most people are resigned to the fact that we won’t make the playoffs, but there is still a chance. And it starts and ends with the 6 games against Boston. We were in a similar scenario last year where they could have closed the gap considerably at the end and we took it to them in some of the best baseball of the year. It’s a longshot that we take 5 or 6, but that is what we need. If we end up doing it we will be in good shape and it will be quite the finish. There is still a lot of good baseball to be played.
Embrace Eternity
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 1, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
RJ made a great point--for those of us that
fall in love with the cliche “control our own destiny”
It assumes the Rays will will win the games that are not head to head and also assumes the Red Sox will lose those
Look this is a MUST sweep series. If we do that it’s feasible
"in it"
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I agree.
In Boston it wouldn’t be realistic to expect us to sweep them. We definitely need to take 4 of 6 at WORST. This game is pretty critical. That is my only gripe. I just would have tossed Sonny yesterday and Shields today. This is the biggest game of the year. If we drop this game we pretty much have to win out vs the Sox.
Can David Ortiz please send Dioner Navarro some of his PED's? K? Thanks
Maybe if this doesn't work out we can pull a Rick Ankiel with him?
"That's not baseball. Little numbers in a newspaper is...So-dookie, or whatever."
minus the roids, of course
"That's not baseball. Little numbers in a newspaper is...So-dookie, or whatever."
Unbelievable that our season rests on his arm
Maybe we can call up Davis and Hellboy now that we can bring up the 40-man roster?
"That's not baseball. Little numbers in a newspaper is...So-dookie, or whatever."
not until after Durham's playoff's.
making sure we are in the best position to succeed in AAA > making sure we are in the best position to succeed in the majors……duh.
why else would Joyce, Brignac, Davis still be in AAA
News is Davis is up for the doubleheader
"That's not baseball. Little numbers in a newspaper is...So-dookie, or whatever."
by Orlando Rays on Sep 1, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Friedman confirmed it and Madddon basically did also
Friedman said during the game “Davis will help us in September” and Maddon said there would be 2 waves of call ups
So I would say definates are Davis and Brignac and a probable is Joyce
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
It doesn't.
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I'm not sure why everyone is so worried
Sonny is a man’s man. He uses listerine as shaving cream. Sonny is the one that will disembowel these hated rivals. He will plant our flag at the peak of Mount Beckett. He will ride to the mound on his black steed name Alfalfa and come out throwing actual lasers. My faith in this man, nee legend, could not be higher. The grit is strong with this one. He’s got intangibles and he knows how to use them. Bringeth ye righties for the commencement of Sonny Slay Day 2009!
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 1, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Sonny will pitch well tonight
but the problem is, that will let him keep his job and I don’t think he will continue to pitch well, I guess it doesn’t matter much because how much can you expect from Davis in his first few big league starts
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann

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