Third Part of Kazmir Package is Either Sean Rodriguez or Bobby Wilson
Two Angels prospects with major-league experience - Class AAA catcher Bobby Wilson and infielder Sean Rodriguez - are candidates to be the player to be named in the Scott Kazmir trade, major-league sources say.
How about a comparison of these two to hold us over?
Wilson is a 26-year-old catcher struggling in Triple-A with a .271/.314/.399 line. In previous year he's hit well, but let's be honest here: Wilson isn't a prospect and hasn't been a worthwhile prospect in a while. Does he have a major league future? Probably, but in the "He's a back-up" sort of way, he doesn't have much of a platoon split for hitting lefties (.805 OPS in his minor league career) and he's only so-so against righties. Given that his numbers have came in parks where guys like Brandon Wood and Dallas McPherson have scorched Earth, it's safe to say Wilson isn't making it to the majors because of his bat.
Rodriguez is a 24-year-old do-it-all. He plays shortstop, second, the outfield, so on. His numbers in Triple-A this season are absolutely jaw-dropping: .301/.402/.622 and the scouting reports aren't too mean on him either. Baseball America ranked him as one of the Angels top 10 prospects prior to the 2008 season and other than 216 major league plate appearances, he'd probably be ranked near the top still. He does have some issues with strikeouts, and he may or may not be a starter in the bigs, but he's a better player than Wilson without doubt.
As for how either player fits into the 2010 roster matrix. You'd have to peg Wilson as a back-up catcher, probably not much better than options like Shawn Riggans. Rodriguez would fill the 2009 pre-season Ben Zobrist role.
I can alert everyone that we've talked to multiple sources within baseball who have identified Rodriguez as the player to be named later, but as of now, have yet to receive a confirmation from either team. It's not official, but it would be a stunner if Rodriguez isn't the third man heading to St. Petersburg.
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I think Rodriguez has a bit more power
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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 1, 2009 12:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That would be nice.
But, we’d be getting another great bench player under team control, yes? I like.
Think Mark Reynolds
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'm not saying he'll be like Reynolds in the majors
Especially since Reynolds turned out to be better than his minor league stats would indicate, but their scouting reports and statistics have been eerily similar all the way up and down the line.
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Please not Wilson
Rodriguez looks like such a better player that it’s not even close. If S-Rod is Aybar then Wilson is Riggans.
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To co-sign what R.J. said
I’ve talked to multiple independent sources and would be shocked if Sean Rodriguez is not a Tampa Bay Ray soon.
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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 1, 2009 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I've talked to Tommy Rancel and he said that it's going to be Sean Rodriguez
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 1, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a good guy.
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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 1, 2009 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I produce runs. I leave the gritty play for RJ
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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 1, 2009 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tommy "Three True Outcomes" Rancel
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 1, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
"Sac Bunt" is something I'd more ascribe to Jonathan "Johnny "Powerbottom"" Comeback
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 1, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Powerbottoms real name was
Raul Jonathon "Johnny “Powerbottom” Comback" Anderson
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The R stands for RAYMONDO
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 1, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you guys project S-Rod's PAs to be next year?
= or > Waybar?
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Depends.
Rodriguez can play short, and if Brignac is the starter, you’re talking about a good chance for some platoon PA there. Plus if Joyce and Crawford are around, he can get some PA there too.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 1, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Can this guy be an eventual starter?
I don’t really get why the scouting reports are down on him. He strikes out a lot? That sounds like a born Ray starter.
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I've read he can be an average 2B
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He's average defense.
Doesn’t play one position particularly well, but isn’t a liability.
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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 1, 2009 12:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure where he'd start on this team if not SS.
BA’s report:
Background: Rodriguez followed up his breakout 2006 with a solid but inconsistent season in Double-A. The son of longtime Marlins minor league coach Johnny Rodriguez, Sean grew up around the game, watching his dad throw batting practice to Alex Rodriguez. Los Angeles added him to its 40-man roster in November.
Strengths: Rodriguez has good tools across the board that play up because of his feel for the game. He has above-average bat speed that produces plus raw power with a quick, whippy swing. He uses the entire field and is beginning to make adjustments effectively. He has solid-average hands and a plus arm, with a solid first step that helps him make up for fringy range up the middle.
Weaknesses: A below-average runner with a bulky build, Rodriguez won’t make it to the big leagues as a shortstop. His defensive fundamentals aren’t strong, but he should become an average second baseman. He swings and misses too often and chases fastballs behind in the count. He needs to become more consistent, which starts with improving his plate discipline.
The Future: Rodriguez is expected to spend most of 2008 at second base in Triple-A. Because of his bat, he profiles as a reliable utiltyman with some punch, and he could play his way into an everyday role if he reduces his empty swings.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 1, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I've digested that particular opinion.
So its not a matter of if, but that he’s blocked.
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Yes.
TotalZone has him as at least average at shortstop though.
Hopefully BA missed out.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 1, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we'd want Rodriguez starting at short
Most of what I’ve read about him indicates that his ideal position is probably 3B, and that his range is a bit limited for middle ni9nfield.
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Ugh
Sorry about the typos. Having browser issues with SBNation today, and I can’t see the comments before they post.
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For Kaz
It sounds like we got three above average minor leaguers that are likely to make an impact. How big of an impact we will have to wait to see. Is that a fair assessment?
and you won't be needed either
no offense
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by Gone Phishing on Sep 1, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe in 100 years this will be mainstream.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 1, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Will?

^^RJ relaxing after a tough day at the blogfice.
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Ooh, the robots are calling a wide zone today.
I convinced my fiance to use Rays colors for our wedding. What have you done lately?
Tonight
Watch out tonight if Sonny looks bad. The haters will be out in droves. Easy to do when it’s not your money and your thoughts don’t really matter.
What if he does well?
Are we going to have to put up with more of Anderson’s bullcrap?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 1, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I shall write a 3,000 word epic poem on Mr. Sonnanstine.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 1, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
HAW HAW HAW
YOU LOOZE
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Did Ironman shoot Ionic Pentameter beams?
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 1, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean ionic
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 1, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
or should I say iambic
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 1, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Iambic
FIAL
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was about to post that, S-Rod isnt hurt is he?
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A PBTNL can't be traded to the same league
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Sorry to go off topic but I was wondering
Earlier this year I mentioned to several friends that it looked to me that Price’s release point was too high, and that was likely the cause of some control issues. I even tweeted Maddon, not that I thought he would really see it, but hey. Then I saw a pitch release point chart on the subject. At first, I just felt vindicated that someone else saw the same thing. But now I am wondering how the hell that chart could be created. Did someone see it too, then track the release points by stop action on a computer? If so, bravo! Do you think Hickey picks up on the same stuff?
Brooks baseball I believe does this tracking for all pitchers automatically; it's up to us to find it.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
It's done automatically through pitchfx/physics work.
And the Rays have the master of pitchfx/physics work on their staff in Josh Kalk. I’m guessing he had something to do with pointing it if Maddon/Hickey didn’t catch it by eye.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 1, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool
Anyone notice that when Garza and Shields lose control they are falling off to the first base side more than normal? Or does it just look that way to me? See how polite I am being.
By the way, if we lose tonight...
I will NOT be visiting the fanpost/fanshot section for at least a few days.
I am just curious when the player will be announced
Also, I guess Zobrist as the everyday 2B in 2010, Aki’s option declined, S-Rod becomes the super sub that Zorilla was.
If it is indeed S-Rod, I guess our bench would be S-Rod, Riggans, Perez and Aybar
Considering Joyce takes over RF, I wonder what we do with Gross….
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Proabbly not offer arbitration to Gross
If they can get something in a trade, great, but I suspect he’s still grossly underappreciated by other GMs out there, and he won’t be that cheap anymore. Teams won’t want to have to go through arb with him when they can pick him up as a free agent for less than what he’d make in arb (like what happened when the Rays picked up Wigginton).
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I think they offer Gross arb
He’s worth more than he will get and I think there enough teams that realize that to offer at least a low level prospect for him.
Let it be S-Rod
a 1000+ OPS in any league is not chopped liver
His ability to play almost anywhere is huge also
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Wilson
How much of an upgrade over what we have?
Very little i see
he calls a good game, still no offense, I have no desire for him
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Have you seen him on the mound
He reminds me of a young Greg Maddux, I’d give him a shot at second.
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I've thought about it
I like him for many of the reasons I liked Kaz coming up. Short of stature, flamethrowing lefty with control problems, nobody takes him deep or hits him period. Sandy Torres might have a ring to it or maybe Oliver Torres since his best comp is probably an Oliver Perez type guy. I’ll stick with the pic until the offseason.
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Oliver Perez :(
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
by Some other guy who does not care on Sep 1, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
HO HO HO I WONDER WHERE THIS IS GOING
The girls left. According to one patron, Hamilton, piss-drunk by that point, asked the manager where he could buy blow. The manager didn't know. "Let's go to a strip club," Hamilton said. Someone drove Hamilton to Les Girls in Phoenix, Arizona.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 1, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
2010 Zobrist at 2B
Joyce in RF Zaun/?? platoon at C
S-Rod and Willy UTL
Sign and trade Aki
not sure who hits lefties with Navi gone
Riggans and Jaso are both lefties
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Ah, thats settled then, of course until he gets hurt
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Hmm heres a interesting idea
our PTBNL is S-Rod and we make a separate small off season deal for Bobby Wilson. I know neither is gonna rake up there but I just really hate bad D behind the plate.
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+/- 10 runs over the course of the season
Even if he’s good defensively, not sure you want someone who’s bat is that bad. I guess there’s the theoretical game calling aspect, but nobody knows how to measure that, and frankly, he probably DOESN’T know how to call a game that well simply because you don’t get much experience calling games in the minors.
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His teammate Rich Thompson says its Rodriguez:
@chopper63: Sad to see Sean Rodriguez heading to Tampa Bay, good luck to him he is an exciting player
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
was JUST gonna post that
I just wonder when he comes here
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Probably next year since he would still have to clear waivers until the end of the season.
Right?
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thats my guess
I am such an impatient man :(
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