Heavens, Do I Ever Fancy Desmond Jennings

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2009 10:42 AM EDT Comment 64 comments

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Via Waiversharks.com

137 plate appearances in Durham: 19 walks, 15 strikeouts, 15/17 on steals, 11 extra base hits, oh and he plays center field.

That is all for the hype machine.

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I'm anxious to see DJ, MJ and S-Rod

get significant PT with Rays in ’10

by sternfan1 on Sep 15, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd like to see more of Brignac and shit why not Hellickson, he's been lights out for Durham

since coming up. I’d like to see him improve his efficiency and go deeper into games, but he can figure that out in the majors like the rest of our starters have (price, Niemann, Kaz, etc,)

by behn on Sep 15, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is sarcasm right

re: Price, Niemann, Kaz?

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 15, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dockoftherays.com

by Jason Collette on Sep 15, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Any chance he is our starting CF on opening day next year?

Lets say that Crawford gets traded, we move Upton to Left, Joyce to Right, and put DJ is centerfield…. too soon for that?

by behn on Sep 15, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Upton is almost certainly better defensively tthan DJ.

And has a better arm.

Tools Whore

by Tyler on Sep 15, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

BJ's 2010 is a put up shut up year for him

even his apologists have to admit that

by sternfan1 on Sep 15, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Next year is a huge year for Upton....

He needs to start proving his detractors wrong. I wouldnt be surprised to see him have a strong season having a fully healed/rested shoulder. From what I’ve heard the rehab time on the surgery he had is typically 6 months. I’m really HOPING that is the reason for his wretched offensive season.

by td32 on Sep 15, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Topkin insists the window is shutting on the Rays if they deal CC...

Which is fairly obvious because how would the Rays have won the AL East last season without the irreplaceable line of 273/319/400 that CC put up last year.

by td32 on Sep 15, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder how many times he'll call Bartlett irreplaceable when we trade him.

Or the move itself “questionable” no matter the return.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trading popular, good players will severely impair ever developing a big fanbase

unless every year is ’08-like

by sternfan1 on Sep 15, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that assumes the majority of the potential fans have no understanding of the realities involved.

So yeah, you’re probably right.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would assume the least smartest subscriber to this blog, is probably smarter than your average fan

All you have to do is turn on sports talk radio, and hear how stupid they are on all sports

by sternfan1 on Sep 15, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Those people will complain regardless.

If you win they come, if you don’t they don’t.

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't really see the Rays as being the A's anytime soon though.

At least not moving units as quickly. They have Shields & Longoria right now, they had Rocco & Crawford & Kazmir before. I think we’ll see turnover and such, but over a 5-6 year span instead of every 2-3 years, and I think they’ll secure a number of younger players to mid/long-term deals.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also I would argue the sports talk radio market isn't the best way to judge fan intelligence.

Much like using this site isn’t accurate either.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish you were right about this RJ

but I don’t think you are. I have some friends who are life long baseball fans and I think smarter than the average. They even have a little bit of knowledge of advanced stats, but they spew so much of the same garbage you hear on the radio. Talk about trading BJ for relief help, Kaz trade was terrible, Bartlett is god, etc….

by ReyL on Sep 15, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So you're saying that you are probably smarter than the average fan?

Sorry, I couldn’t resist. =)

by ChiBurbRaysFan on Sep 15, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Winning cures everything.

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by PlayOnWords on Sep 15, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What fanbase?

People didn’t come out in droves after we went to the WS last year. Why would doing what’s good for the team drive more away?

How about Brignac last night.

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Huge uppercut--will never draw BB

by sternfan1 on Sep 15, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nearly the same BB rate in AAA as JB had.

by RaysTheRoof on Sep 15, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if you're looking at '06, i'd suggest sample size is an issue

take a look at his body of work in 2006 at the MLB level

by sternfan1 on Sep 15, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

4-4 yesterday with a HR and 2 2B.

Now hitting .286 in the bigs. He’s a STUD!

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

500 PA slash line prediction

250/325/380 12 HR

by sternfan1 on Sep 15, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Based off of?

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also, if he has 12 HR in 500 PA I think his SLG would be a bit higher...

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Theoretical season:

I gave him the 500 PA, .250 BA, .325 OBP, and 12 HRs you came up with. Then I used his career 2B/3B breakdown of hits for AAA. This gave him a slash-line of .250/.325/.406. Bartlett’s career slash-line is .288/.349/.395. That isn’t a huge difference.

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

3.4 runs over 650 PAs.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so what you're saying is that if he's 5 runs better defensively

its a wash?

Why is this so hard for people to believe. Sell high on JB.

by RaysTheRoof on Sep 15, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Brignac will seriously struggle to hit .250 in the majors

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by Brickhaus on Sep 15, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's way less likely his OBP is .325 than his AVG is .250.

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That too

A .220/.270/.380 type line wouldn’t shock me.

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by Brickhaus on Sep 15, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the ratios are about right there

That has BA as 82% of OBP is 71% of SLG. If you figure a BA of .245 that gives an OBP/SLG
of .301/.424 or an OPS of .725. Using the quick wOBA approximation of (OBPx2+SLG)/3
shows an estimated wOBA of .342. Fangraphs would have that almost equidistant between
Erick Aybar and Asdrubal Cabrera. Aybar is known more for his glove, while A-Cab is known
more for his bat. Having Erick Aybar (Brig’s power skills substitute for Aybar’s speed skills)
is not such a bad thing for a team that, on paper, has an offense looking for a contributor, not a star.

I’ve been one of Briggy’s biggest critics, but at some point you have to shit or get off the pot.
IF his glove is legit and he can put up a .335+ wOBA then I’d roll with him. Of course, this is
all predicated by the assumption that Bartlett brings an elite package.

Embrace Eternity

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 15, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs