David Price Slides His Way To 3-1 Victory
Earlier in the week we discussed David Price's below average slider and the lack of movement on the pitch. Today, we saw a much improved slider in terms of both horizontal and vertical movement. Below are the vertical x horizontal movement from today's start as well as the previous home start. The slider looks like two different pitches in comparison.
September 3, 2009
September 20, 2009
You can see there is lots of sinking movement as well as horizontal movement. Price threw 25 sliders on the afternoon (23%) and got 56% strikes on the pitch. One thing that stood out to me was the velocity on the slider. For the season Price has averaged 84 mph on the pitch. Today, the average slider was thrown at 77 mph; almost curveball-esque. Maybe he figured out something, and was purposely taking velocity off and throwing more of a slurve than a hard breaking slider. In any event, the pitch was effective and moved a lot more. It's something to keep any eye on over the next two weeks.
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We trade Jackson, Kazmir andHammell
Jackson and Hammell have been good as we all know. Kaz has been great since coming off the DL, especially lately and yet we still have 5 great SP’s and Hellickson ready.
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Sep 20, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and by spring training Talbot should be ready as well
and Sonny is still usable, and who can forget about the strandmaster
by Navi's_Navy on Sep 20, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read a scouting report a year back that talked about Price throwing a slurve at Vandy in this MPH range (75-77 IIRC)
this seems like a pretty big change, I would be surprised if this were his slurve. If he introduces this pitch and uses it a decent amount then he could have a much more diverse arsenal. Low-mid 90s FB, mid 80s CH, mid 80s Slider, Mid-High 70s Slurve. More pitches not named fastball would be great
by Navi's_Navy on Sep 20, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im pretty sure he threw a slurve at Vandy
It will be interesting to see if he goes to this sort of pitch more in the last few starts.
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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 20, 2009 8:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
What was with his delivery today?
It looked completely different. They better not fuck with his delivery and Orvella and Brazelton him.
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by killa3312 on Sep 20, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Different pitching coaches.
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by Tyler on Sep 20, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless, I hate when coaches try to mess with someone's delivery
Price’s doesn’t need any revamping and is just fine the way it is. Unless you absolutely, 100% have to change it in order to prolong his career, don’t mess with it.
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by killa3312 on Sep 20, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he was tipping his pitches?
Sure did well with that different delivery
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Sep 20, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will David Price ever dominate like Scott Kazmir did in 2007?
What do you think?
by sternfan1 on Sep 20, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How are any of us supposed to answer this without talking completely out of our behinds?
Does he have the ability to do so? Yes. Will he? Who knows.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 20, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT:I bet we can get Gameboy pretty cheap
by sternfan1 on Sep 20, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano should kiss Bradley for taking the flames off him.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 20, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of Soriano
more OT: maybe we should look at another Soriano, Rafael for our pen.
Opinions?
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Sep 20, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano made
$6.1 million this year and now has the designation of closer. He has been a very good pitcher with excellent and improving K rates, although he also has some injury history. My guess is he is looking for a multi-year contract for more than $6 million/year and as one of the best free agent relievers available will find lots of competitors for his services. If so, that is a large investment in a relief pitcher.
by bobr on Sep 21, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Price and Davis a lock next year
Im very excited for a run next year.
For now, 83 wins is my goal for this team
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by Gone Phishing on Sep 20, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
eh the hell with it, run the table and pick up 89 wins
1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Sep 20, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! I am loaded with talent and can make a lot of money! What should I do?
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1. James Shields 2. Wade Davis 3. Matt Garza 4. David Price 5. Jeff Niemann
by joeybw on Sep 20, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Price's slider today
reminded me of CC Sabathia’s. Slow for a slider, but with lots of movement.
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by vtcub on Sep 20, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Banning
I got banned for a day recently for my comments about BJ Upton’s effort or lack thereof to avoid a double play. While I understand this blog’s policies about fact based comments, I disagree with the 24 hour banning in this case. I have seen many other much more inflammatory posts on this site and those people are not reprimanded. I responded to an obviously slow time to first. A later post mentioned that his ankle may have been the reason for the slow time to first. That is a reasonable response IMO to my post. I forgot that he was recently injured.
In my warning that I received, I was directed to a wikipedia website article about perceived African male laziness. I take offense to the suggestion that I am picking on Upton merely because he is black. I think your judgement of me in this regard is baseless. Please stick to the facts. Upton has had several issues with lack of effort on the field. He was even pulled from a game for lack of effort. That is a fact. If I were making this claim about black athletes in general, I would certainly understand your point. This is not in my heart, and not in my opinion of Upton.
I am sorry if this post is not appropriate for this topic. I am most certainly not trying to troll for a response. I am just not sure how else to convey my feelings on this subject to all of the people who may be responsible.
Kercir in his post banning me, mentioned that I was uneducated and had a fat ass. I will have you know that neither is an accurate description. My ass is muscular and trim. :)
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by terp12 on Sep 20, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...your banning was without merit
Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Sep 20, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
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by SRQman on Sep 20, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upton has had many slow times to 1st throughout the season
the SP Times has noted it on multiple occasions. I don’t know what else anyone wants. The dude, this year at least, doesn’t get it. Maybe right now it’s his ankle and this is an injury thing. But this happened on numerous occasions without an injury issue.
No one should be getting banned for this. And how can someone complain about etiquette if they are also going to make a verbal attack on the person? That seems very hypocritical.
I love this site’s standards and how it works to keep it that way. But don’t take it too far. I’m sorry people don’t like the Upton complaints. But the problem is, he’s brought it on himself (most of it anyways). It has nothing to do with his regression at the plate. His time to first has nothing to do with talent but effort. Again, right now it’s an injury thing. But that hasn’t always been the case.
by raysfaninminnesota on Sep 20, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't around for the ban and whatever.
But we’ve had so many trolls sign up just to comment “GOD UPTON IS SO LAZY” that all of those comments blur together. This was not one of those cases, but I can see the logic behind a warning/boxing, especially if it’s done by a user you aren’t overly familiar with. Ke probably could’ve done a little more research before clicking the button, but 99% of the time his judgment is right on.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 20, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it looks like I fucked this one up.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Sep 21, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays sweep, 'Noles win, Bears win
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