Off-Season Wish List: Part One
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 23, 2009 9:48 PM EDT
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At one point or another all of these will (likely) be transcribed into posts of their own, so if you something doesn't quite make sense at this point, it will in the near future. I'm simply posting this as a "to-do-list" for myself as much as anything. Anyhow, my initial off-season hopes for the Rays:
1. Sniff the Felix Hernandez trade front.
2. Glance Aroldis Chapman's way.
3. Secure the bullpen by looking towards some cheap free agent arms like Joaquin Benoit.
4. Look into trading for a cheap few pen arms - like Jason Frasor, Michael Wuertz, etc.
5. Ask Rick Peterson to be a full-time consultant.
6. Secure minor league/bench depth through low-key trades/free agent signings.
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14. Replace Kevin Kennedy.
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Early list of pen targets
Benoit, Kiko Calero, Kelvim Escobar. I know all have injury questions, but that’s the only way we’re going to get a quality arm on the FA market without giving up big bucks. Of course when I see who’s non tendered (Lance Cormier in ’08) the list will expand.
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by Tommy Rancel on Sep 23, 2009 9:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Like the way you think
Those relievers look better than trotting out Shouse, Springer and Bradford most nights.
by Jacob Larsen on Sep 24, 2009 2:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You would give up Hellickson, Brignac and more for Felix?
They wanted 5 Red Sox prospects for him in July. That is steep for a small market, build from within team, no?
by raysrule44 on Sep 23, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sniff != trade for him.
You have to — and I’m sure Friedman will — inquire on the asking price.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 23, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees, Red Sox will start the bidding for Chapman at $30 mil
by sternfan1 on Sep 23, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He would make a nice closer for us.
by raysrule44 on Sep 23, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would heartily recommend the Red Sox/Yankees turning any young pitcher with plus stuff into relievers.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 23, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was trying to make a joke
Price for closer joke. I watched a video of Chapman, he has a strange delivery, but his fastball looks like it has some good movement to it.
by raysrule44 on Sep 23, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone cares
by raysrule44 on Sep 23, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the related videos I found footage of Evan Meek hitting a guy in the face with a pitch.
Lovely.
by vincesucks on Sep 23, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the face?
After seeing “The Hangover” and the Meek vid, not sure which would hurt more. Taser to the face or fastball?
by Jacob Larsen on Sep 24, 2009 2:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing
LovesGodVeryMuch (1 week ago)
he is one of cuba’s fastest pitcher. I have only seen 1 cuban that throws faster then him, i forgot his name but he threw 108mph max
Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz
by SRQman on Sep 23, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Senor Finch?
His fastball es en fuego!
by Jacob Larsen on Sep 24, 2009 2:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
His release point is too high
Gary Williams for President!
Put Rose in the Hall of Fame
by terp12 on Sep 24, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine that 30 million won't come close to getting the job done.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on Sep 23, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7. Fleece every GM out of something
Embrace Eternity
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 23, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget about
Calling KC for trades, signing someone important to a team-friendly deal and having a catcher
by Transplanted on Sep 23, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
zaunbie is a catcher
a cheap, good one. While a younger option would be nice, I don’t want to necessarily overpay when we have a more than capable stopgap.
by Navi's_Navy on Sep 23, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many games can we realistically expect out of Zaun next year behind the plate?
100 max?
Jennings, Hellickson, Davis, Brignac, Beckham, Moore > Your top 3
by Dbullsfan on Sep 24, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1,2,3,
1. kila ki’ahua 2. Howell or Zorilla 3. ???? zaun and navi platoon
the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009
by CubFanRaysaddict on Sep 23, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we please move removing Kennedy up the list
by usfraysfan on Sep 24, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's been the deal lately...
…with TK doing the game broadcasts? Is he auditioning for the spot next year? I haven’t watched the beginning of the past couple games, but I’ve been watching bits and pieces of them…and last night’s game (or the night before) it sounded like TK was flying solo for the middle innings, then Dewayne was back toward the end. I wouldn’t mind Dewayne paired with TK or Brian Anderson for next year. Kennedy is brutal.
by Pinto on Sep 24, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA works just fine for me
Jennings, Hellickson, Davis, Brignac, Beckham, Moore > Your top 3
by Dbullsfan on Sep 24, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
BA has great banter with Staats reminiscent of the Magrane era
the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009
by CubFanRaysaddict on Sep 24, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would still like to see us try to move Crawford
and than picking up a decent AA/AAA OF prospect along the way somehow in case Joyce doesn’t pan out. I think Jennings has shown enough in his short time in AAA that we can be confident in him to start the season in CF (assuming BJ can learn to play RF, shouldn’t be that hard)
unless they are able to resign CC to a nice deal and than I wouldn’t mind moving Joyce and having a full stallion OF.
I don’t think anyone in the rotation should be untouchable, if someone wants to back the truck up for Garza, Shields, or Niemann let them do so b/c Hellickson appears ready. Especially if we can get a guy in return that is near ready in case of injury or Davis/Helly not paning out. After Talbot/Sonny the next guy would probably be Torres and he is 2 years away.
I would love to see us try and resign Elliot Johnson to a minor league deal although I wouldn’t be shocked to see him get a ML contract from someone. A lot of people on here don’t like him but I find it hard to believe a switch hitter with some pop and speed that can play all over the diamond won’t be able to find a spot on someone’s roster.
Jennings, Hellickson, Davis, Brignac, Beckham, Moore > Your top 3
by Dbullsfan on Sep 24, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, sort of.
1) Don’t move Crawford this off-season. If they can’t come to terms on a reasonable extension, trade him next year. I can’t imagine the return will be significantly different unless CC gets off to a horrendous start next year, which would be unreasonable to predict at this point.
2) Why take BJ out of center? Even if Jennings is the real deal, MLB-ready, etc., it’s difficult to believe he’s better defensively in CF than BJ. Put Jennings in RF (or LF in your hypothetical where we’ve traded CC)
3) Agree on trading SP, although I’d put Garza below Shields and Niemann. (I.e. I’d prefer to keep Garza over those 2.) I’d heartily endorse getting what we can for Shields. He is a very solid SP, has a great reputation (read: trade value), but I don’t think he has upside beyond what he’s already shown, I don’t like his low K rate, and I think getting out while the gettin’s good doesn’t sound like a bad idea to me.
by Not Whole View Gang survivor on Sep 24, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE:Shields
He’s paid like a 4th starter to be an ace, that’s unrealistic. Back in the day the argument was always Shields v. Kazmir. We always said that this is the best you will ever get from Shields love it or leave it. I’m just glad we have him to a great contract and should slot in nicely as a #2. Garza, Price, Davis, are all potential aces and Niemann really isn’t far behind them. It would take a mega-prospect for me to be happy in letting go of Jamie and his great contract.
Embrace Eternity
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 24, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my only thought with moving BJ to RF instead of DJ is that BJ has the stronger arm
Jennings, Hellickson, Davis, Brignac, Beckham, Moore > Your top 3
by Dbullsfan on Sep 24, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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